Malaysian Airlines 777 down on Ukraine / Russia Border?
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Patrick Bateman said:
Friend of a friend is in the SBS and we were supposed to be having them round for a BBQ this weekend - she is now coming on her own as allegedly they are already on their way.just seen a link on Facebook... the truth about what really happened!
I am amazed at the rubbish some people put on the internet.
http://humansarefree.com/2014/07/busted-mh-17-was-...
I am amazed at the rubbish some people put on the internet.
http://humansarefree.com/2014/07/busted-mh-17-was-...
Rocksteadyeddie said:
Beyond Rational said:
Maybe I've missed something, but how is firing missiles from one country into another in order to destroy the armed troops of that nation, not an act of war?
Or sending special forces in to "secure" an area...We'd do well to stay well away from this fast emerging st-show.
IF the SAS/SBS etc go in it woul dbe with the approval of Ukraine, so no invasion etc.
now, if they cross the border to russia, that's a different subject.
personally, I think it would be good to have enough troops on the ground to secure the area with enough air cover to prevent attack from outside, and I can;t see this being that controversial.
if russia want to then attack them, that's a whole different matter
Scuffers said:
IF the SAS/SBS etc go in it woul dbe with the approval of Ukraine, so no invasion etc.
Currently no real government in Ukraine to approve anything : http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jul/24/ukrai...Cobnapint said:
Rocksteadyeddie said:
Or sending special forces in to "secure" an area...
We'd do well to stay well away from this fast emerging st-show.
I agree. Putin-the-Paranoid already thinks NATO are trying to construct an invasion by siding up to Ukraine. We'd do well to stay well away from this fast emerging st-show.
This will cause his ICBM silo's to step up to a 'put your vodka down' state. Very dangerous, no matter how innocent the intention.
The Spruce goose said:
Rocksteadyeddie said:
Or sending special forces in to "secure" an area...
We'd do well to stay well away from this fast emerging st-show.
I bet 50 quid no special forces would go in, too open and too much publicity and to secure a non military site is worthless from a strategic point of view.We'd do well to stay well away from this fast emerging st-show.
petemurphy said:
isnt it a bit late now? i can understand they should have gone in to start but most bodies have been retrieved and inspectors are there whats the point now bar to annoy the russians?
It's still a crime scene and separatists are still refusing access to the whole site/area. skyrover said:
petemurphy said:
isnt it a bit late now? i can understand they should have gone in to start but most bodies have been retrieved and inspectors are there whats the point now bar to annoy the russians?
It's still a crime scene and separatists are still refusing access to the whole site/area. These experts are the bees knees with this sort of data. I respectfully suggest that Contributors need to read some detail about the actual information that can be gleaned from such evidence. Certainly still very much worthwhile.
onyx39 said:
just seen a link on Facebook... the truth about what really happened!
I am amazed at the rubbish some people put on the internet.
http://humansarefree.com/2014/07/busted-mh-17-was-...
The internet is truly a strange and bizarre place. I am amazed at the rubbish some people put on the internet.
http://humansarefree.com/2014/07/busted-mh-17-was-...
The US hijacks an entire aircraft of foreign nationals, kills them and then blows up the plane over the Ukraine several months later?
MiniMan64 said:
onyx39 said:
just seen a link on Facebook... the truth about what really happened!
I am amazed at the rubbish some people put on the internet.
http://humansarefree.com/2014/07/busted-mh-17-was-...
The internet is truly a strange and bizarre place. I am amazed at the rubbish some people put on the internet.
http://humansarefree.com/2014/07/busted-mh-17-was-...
The US hijacks an entire aircraft of foreign nationals, kills them and then blows up the plane over the Ukraine several months later?
skyrover said:
The result of Russian artillery onto Ukrainian troops... Some of the 72th Ukr. Brigade annihilated
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_9iCq0k0PEY
It is confirmed Russia is now firing artillery from Russian territory into Ukraine
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/us-russia-firing-artil...
Perhaps deploying Sentinel to the Ukraine under the auspices of the UN would provide proof of the truth of these accusations? They probably can't track shells in flight but MLRS rockets will show up readily enough and the ground movements of tube artillery can be followed.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_9iCq0k0PEY
It is confirmed Russia is now firing artillery from Russian territory into Ukraine
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/us-russia-firing-artil...
hidetheelephants said:
Perhaps deploying Sentinel to the Ukraine under the auspices of the UN would provide proof of the truth of these accusations? They probably can't track shells in flight but MLRS rockets will show up readily enough and the ground movements of tube artillery can be followed.
Should be able to see it all on satellite now I would have thought.Petemate said:
marshalla said:
And if that one is MH370, where's MH017 now ?
Well, the identification of the bodies by the relatives will put this new conspiracy theory to bed. BHC said:
XJ Flyer said:
Which just leaves the question of,knowing UKIP's policies regarding Ukraine,why the deafening silence from Farage.Is he being gagged by the pro EU government security agencies and their propaganda.Or is it that he just can't be bothered knowing that Britain is now a lost cause to the dangerous aggressive expansionist policies of the federalist supporters of the EU.
Actually, you're (as usual) mistaken. Many questions on this topic remain, however that is not one of them. Do you understand that this involves Ukrainian/Russian rebels and military and has LITERALLY no relation to Ireland or UKIP?Edited by XJ Flyer on Thursday 24th July 18:40
All because of an agenda of an EU and NATO eastward expansion.Which is actually a policy which UKIP's foreign policy is actually totally against.So as I said why the silence from UKIP in the media on all the above.
Mr Sparkle said:
Should be able to see it all on satellite now I would have thought.
It might be a software issue and just adjusting the speed gate will be enough, but that needs a radar geek to pass judgement; I doubt satellites are able to reliably spot mortar bombs and <6" shells in flight.Gassing Station | News, Politics & Economics | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff