Malaysian Airlines 777 down on Ukraine / Russia Border?
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skyrover said:
loafer123 said:
Of course, the other thought is that it wasn't what was taken in that was important, but what they took out...
A load of specialist communications and radar equipment from a local factory apparently vonuber said:
KareemK said:
I'll take one £20 wager the Russians don't formally invade Ukraine.
No-one ever said they will, but it is blatantly obvious they are doing it informally. Which you seem to think is perfectly fine.Gonna be hard for Putin to keep pretending there isn't an invasion
Who gets Kareem's 20 quid? ( or does ' formal' mean evening attire )
Edited by alfaman on Tuesday 26th August 06:36
Cobnapint said:
Mermaid said:
In the meantime, the Russian lorries have delivered their load and are back on Russia according to the Beeb.
...ready for the next supply run.http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/aug/25/russi...
alfaman said:
Looks like 10 Russian ( uniformed) paratroopers have been captured inside Ukraine now.
Gonna be hard for Putin to keep pretending there isn't an invasion
Who gets Kareem's 20 quid? ( or does ' formal' mean evening attire )
Russia claims the soldiers "accidentally crossed the border"Gonna be hard for Putin to keep pretending there isn't an invasion
Who gets Kareem's 20 quid? ( or does ' formal' mean evening attire )
Edited by alfaman on Tuesday 26th August 06:36
http://itar-tass.com/politika/1399996
Edited by skyrover on Tuesday 26th August 09:49
Transcript from one of the captured Russian soldiers on TV.
One of them, who identified himself as Ivan Melchyakov, listed his personal details, including the name of the paratroop regiment he said is based in the Russian town of Kostroma.
When he states "everything is different here, not like they show on tv", he is referring to the relentless propaganda being broadcast on Russian state TV
One of them, who identified himself as Ivan Melchyakov, listed his personal details, including the name of the paratroop regiment he said is based in the Russian town of Kostroma.
Ivan Melchyakov said:
"I did not see where we crossed the border. They just told us we were going on a 70-kilometre march over three days,"
"Everything is different here, not like they show it on television. We've come as cannon fodder,"
"I am addressing the relatives of Russian servicemen: find out immediately where your loved ones are. Take them out of Ukraine, where they are being forced to die"
http://news.sky.com/story/1324655/russian-paratroo..."Everything is different here, not like they show it on television. We've come as cannon fodder,"
"I am addressing the relatives of Russian servicemen: find out immediately where your loved ones are. Take them out of Ukraine, where they are being forced to die"
When he states "everything is different here, not like they show on tv", he is referring to the relentless propaganda being broadcast on Russian state TV
Edited by skyrover on Tuesday 26th August 10:09
skyrover said:
alfaman said:
Looks like 10 Russian ( uniformed) paratroopers have been captured inside Ukraine now.
Gonna be hard for Putin to keep pretending there isn't an invasion
Who gets Kareem's 20 quid? ( or does ' formal' mean evening attire )
Russia claims the soldiers "accidentally crossed the border"Gonna be hard for Putin to keep pretending there isn't an invasion
Who gets Kareem's 20 quid? ( or does ' formal' mean evening attire )
Edited by alfaman on Tuesday 26th August 06:36
http://itar-tass.com/politika/1399996
Edited by skyrover on Tuesday 26th August 09:49
Just like accidentally pressing the trigger on the BUK rocket which brought down the airliner.
After all - crack paratroopers would never have access to maps / satnav / GPS would they ? :ROFL:
If this is accurate and not just typical 'pick and choose' reporting, its quite sad for Malaysia Airlines which really had nothing to do with one (probably both) of the airliners which went down.
http://mashable.com/2014/08/25/empty-malaysia-airl...
http://mashable.com/2014/08/25/empty-malaysia-airl...
vescaegg said:
If this is accurate and not just typical 'pick and choose' reporting, its quite sad for Malaysia Airlines which really had nothing to do with one (probably both) of the airliners which went down.
http://mashable.com/2014/08/25/empty-malaysia-airl...
In local Singapore news : several hundred flight crew have resigned, and he airline is recruiting a new CEO / chairman.http://mashable.com/2014/08/25/empty-malaysia-airl...
Very sad and unfortunate .. Though the airline was making big losses prior to both events ... Would need a major restructuring in any case.
The stock was also recently de listed
Edited by alfaman on Tuesday 26th August 11:41
Daily Mail article on empty MH flights: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/travel/travel_news/arti...
skyrover said:
alfaman said:
Looks like 10 Russian ( uniformed) paratroopers have been captured inside Ukraine now.
Gonna be hard for Putin to keep pretending there isn't an invasion
Who gets Kareem's 20 quid? ( or does ' formal' mean evening attire )
Russia claims the soldiers "accidentally crossed the border"Gonna be hard for Putin to keep pretending there isn't an invasion
Who gets Kareem's 20 quid? ( or does ' formal' mean evening attire )
Edited by alfaman on Tuesday 26th August 06:36
http://itar-tass.com/politika/1399996
Edited by skyrover on Tuesday 26th August 09:49
Russian tech must be worse than we thought.
skyrover said:
alfaman said:
Looks like 10 Russian ( uniformed) paratroopers have been captured inside Ukraine now.
Gonna be hard for Putin to keep pretending there isn't an invasion
Who gets Kareem's 20 quid? ( or does ' formal' mean evening attire )
Russia claims the soldiers "accidentally crossed the border"Gonna be hard for Putin to keep pretending there isn't an invasion
Who gets Kareem's 20 quid? ( or does ' formal' mean evening attire )
Edited by alfaman on Tuesday 26th August 06:36
http://itar-tass.com/politika/1399996
Edited by skyrover on Tuesday 26th August 09:49
skyrover said:
Transcript from one of the captured Russian soldiers on TV.
One of them, who identified himself as Ivan Melchyakov, listed his personal details, including the name of the paratroop regiment he said is based in the Russian town of Kostroma.
When he states "everything is different here, not like they show on tv", he is referring to the relentless propaganda being broadcast on Russian state TV
Is it me or in that video when he is asked about his opinion on whats happening in Ukraine, he looks away and speaks as if he is reciting something pre-agreed? As in he has been told what to say?One of them, who identified himself as Ivan Melchyakov, listed his personal details, including the name of the paratroop regiment he said is based in the Russian town of Kostroma.
Ivan Melchyakov said:
"I did not see where we crossed the border. They just told us we were going on a 70-kilometre march over three days,"
"Everything is different here, not like they show it on television. We've come as cannon fodder,"
"I am addressing the relatives of Russian servicemen: find out immediately where your loved ones are. Take them out of Ukraine, where they are being forced to die"
http://news.sky.com/story/1324655/russian-paratroo..."Everything is different here, not like they show it on television. We've come as cannon fodder,"
"I am addressing the relatives of Russian servicemen: find out immediately where your loved ones are. Take them out of Ukraine, where they are being forced to die"
When he states "everything is different here, not like they show on tv", he is referring to the relentless propaganda being broadcast on Russian state TV
Edited by skyrover on Tuesday 26th August 10:09
100 injured Russian soldiers from "nowhere" delivered to hospital in St Petersburg
http://tvrain.ru/articles/chlen_soveta_po_pravam_c...
http://tvrain.ru/articles/chlen_soveta_po_pravam_c...
loafer123 said:
skyrover said:
alfaman said:
Looks like 10 Russian ( uniformed) paratroopers have been captured inside Ukraine now.
Gonna be hard for Putin to keep pretending there isn't an invasion
Who gets Kareem's 20 quid? ( or does ' formal' mean evening attire )
Russia claims the soldiers "accidentally crossed the border"Gonna be hard for Putin to keep pretending there isn't an invasion
Who gets Kareem's 20 quid? ( or does ' formal' mean evening attire )
Edited by alfaman on Tuesday 26th August 06:36
http://itar-tass.com/politika/1399996
Edited by skyrover on Tuesday 26th August 09:49
Russian tech must be worse than we thought.
More lost Russians in Sverdlovsk, just over the border in Ukraine
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tL-yofb3HzU
We should buy those guys a GPS
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tL-yofb3HzU
We should buy those guys a GPS
confucuis said:
Is it me or in that video when he is asked about his opinion on whats happening in Ukraine, he looks away and speaks as if he is reciting something pre-agreed? As in he has been told what to say?
I'd guess so. I would not trust the senior Ukrainians on this at all.And once again, isn't it against some convention to parade PoWs on TV for propoganda? (Rather like what happened with the Royal Navy numpties who got captured by the Iranians while they were busy listening to their iPods and taking selfies...)
EskimoArapaho said:
confucuis said:
Is it me or in that video when he is asked about his opinion on whats happening in Ukraine, he looks away and speaks as if he is reciting something pre-agreed? As in he has been told what to say?
I'd guess so. I would not trust the senior Ukrainians on this at all.And once again, isn't it against some convention to parade PoWs on TV for propoganda? (Rather like what happened with the Royal Navy numpties who got captured by the Iranians while they were busy listening to their iPods and taking selfies...)
The Ukrainian POW's paraded on the streets of Donetsk who were pelted with egg's and tomatoes clearly had their right's violated.
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