Moving to London - Zone 1 or 2?

Moving to London - Zone 1 or 2?

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nyt

1,807 posts

150 months

Friday 18th July 2014
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Perhaps a bit left field, but ...

The regent's canal runs through angel and is a very pleasant way to ride/walk to work. You might want to take that into account

https://maps.google.co.uk/maps/ms?ie=UTF8&t=h&...

You could consider De-Beauvoir town/ Haggerston. both relatively trendy areas with good connections. And an easy stroll.
Plenty of nice looking property in your price range.

One final thing .. consider a bigger one bedroom flat and buy a sofa bed. That extra bedroom is expensive in london if you're not getting benefit from it all the time.

Good luck


http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-to-rent/find.h...

Edited by nyt on Friday 18th July 11:50

okgo

38,035 posts

198 months

Friday 18th July 2014
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Be sure to check out what Vice had to say about Upper Street, amusing. Here we are -

"Upper Street
The worst street in the world. It’s a mile and a half of expensive chain stores, posh people ploughing their inheritance into doomed boutique cake shops, unfathomably charmless pubs and overpriced restaurants. It wasn’t always like this, but as London has grown and as transport to the centre has improved, places like Covent Garden reached peak dhead and they had to spill out somewhere. Islington Council opened its arms and turned this long stretch into a mecca of consumption with all the personality of a helipad. It’s a shame because The King’s Head Theatre Pub is a great place, but these days if you find yourself on Upper Street, you should GTFO and head for Holloway Road."

Edited by okgo on Friday 18th July 13:34

Chucklehead

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2,733 posts

208 months

Friday 18th July 2014
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Sound advice. Thanks all. What is council tax like in this part of the world.. I'm used to £150/m where I am. Everything else I'd expect to 've much the same, although water is free in Scotland :-)

okgo

38,035 posts

198 months

Friday 18th July 2014
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Chucklehead said:
Sound advice. Thanks all. What is council tax like in this part of the world.. I'm used to £150/m where I am. Everything else I'd expect to 've much the same, although water is free in Scotland :-)
Borough dependant in London, could be £80 in westminster, or could be £150 in another. But doubt much more than what you pay now.

gibbon

2,182 posts

207 months

Friday 18th July 2014
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Chucklehead said:
Sound advice. Thanks all. What is council tax like in this part of the world.. I'm used to £150/m where I am. Everything else I'd expect to 've much the same, although water is free in Scotland :-)
As a rough guide I have a two bedroom warehouse flat in zone 2 east London and council tax is £100 a month.

I also have a Georgian terraced house in zone 2 east London and its £150 a month.

Hackney

6,841 posts

208 months

Friday 18th July 2014
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Don't look outside N1

Walkable / Short bus ride
Essex Road
Canonbury
De Beauvoir
Newington Green
Stoke Newington Church Street - easy commute and more village-y feel.
Barnsbury
Highbury Fields

Tube
Tufnell Park
Chalk Farm
Belsize Park
Kentish Town

Definitely don't look south of the river.

Hackney

6,841 posts

208 months

Friday 18th July 2014
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okgo said:
Be sure to check out what Vice had to say about Upper Street, amusing. Here we are -

"Upper Street
The worst street in the world. It’s a mile and a half of expensive chain stores, posh people ploughing their inheritance into doomed boutique cake shops, unfathomably charmless pubs and overpriced restaurants. It wasn’t always like this, but as London has grown and as transport to the centre has improved, places like Covent Garden reached peak dhead and they had to spill out somewhere. Islington Council opened its arms and turned this long stretch into a mecca of consumption with all the personality of a helipad. It’s a shame because The King’s Head Theatre Pub is a great place, but these days if you find yourself on Upper Street, you should GTFO and head for Holloway Road."

Edited by okgo on Friday 18th July 13:34
I presume that Vice is a piss take?
The Upper Street pub crawl (All Bar One, Slug, Pitcher, O'Neills etc, etc) may have been notorious ten years ago but they're mostly closed, easily avoided now.
Chain stores? Apart from a few in the Angel shopping centre it's mostly unique or high end shops. There are dozens of decent pubs other than the King's Head on or near to Upper St. And loads of good cafes and restaurants.

Holloway Road has few redeeming features, other than being the main road out of London from the City.


Edited by Hackney on Friday 18th July 16:04

Maxf

8,409 posts

241 months

Friday 18th July 2014
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Hackney said:
Definitely don't look south of the river.
Agree - we like Blackheath as a well kept secret wink

Hackney

6,841 posts

208 months

Friday 18th July 2014
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Maxf said:
Hackney said:
Definitely don't look south of the river.
Agree - we like Blackheath as a well kept secret wink
I should have said, in relation to commute time rather than as a judgement on the place itself. smile

okgo

38,035 posts

198 months

Friday 18th July 2014
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Hackney said:
I presume that Vice is a piss take?
The Upper Street pub crawl (All Bar One, Slug, Pitcher, O'Neills etc, etc) may have been notorious ten years ago but they're mostly closed, easily avoided now.
Chain stores? Apart from a few in the Angel shopping centre it's mostly unique or high end shops. There are dozens of decent pubs other than the King's Head on or near to Upper St. And loads of good cafe's and restaurants.

Holloway Road has few redeeming features, other than being the main road out of London from the City.
Its not a pisstake, no.


sleep envy

62,260 posts

249 months

Friday 18th July 2014
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okgo said:
Its not a pisstake, no.
Neither is it accurate.

okgo

38,035 posts

198 months

Friday 18th July 2014
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sleep envy said:
Neither is it accurate.
Dunno, if I asked my mates who live up that way, I reckon they'd go with it. None of them go out on Upper St.

I've only been out there a few times, felt just like Clapham to me. Which kind of fits with their article I guess.

sleep envy

62,260 posts

249 months

Friday 18th July 2014
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Yeah, they must spend their time on the Holloway Road.

Gnarlybluesurf

263 posts

176 months

Friday 18th July 2014
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Chucklehead said:
excellent - thanks, this is the kind of info i'm looking for.

So, where would be a better option if i opted for a commute to Angel? Either for better value or just to widen the search.

Am i likely to be getting up to date information on property websites, or is stuff moving much much faster? What websites should i use? I know i'll have to come down, but i'd like to be able to browse, set appointments, and come down for viewings and get it knocked out in a week.

I've managed to find a few 2 beds in my budget within 1/4 mile of Angel. The second room will be a spare room for storage and/or guests.
FWIW...Stick with the areas suggested close to or in angel/islington, don't live in Clapham. It's very nice but you will hate yourself because of your commute very quickly. The northern line is great but not a pleasant place in rush our unless your a fan of mosh pits at 8am minus the music and alcohol.

Rightmove quickly becomes outdated. Coming into July places go on the day they are put on and you need to be seeing places ideally before the "post work" viewings start. The number of viewings i've had booked post work only to hear that someone at midday has taken it. You will often get one chance to look at the property and need to have the holding deposit ready to go there and then. Many times friends have been to a viewing with multiple potential tenants and managed to sneak a let by having the deposit ready to go whilst other people are still deciding if they like the wall paint.

A week will be plenty of time, register with all the local agents before you go tell them what you want, what your budget is, when you're going down and set up viewings for what they have on their books on that day that meet your requirements. Be ready to get a sh*t service from the estate agents as demand far outstrips supply and thus they really don't have to try hard to make money. Also be prepared to take the first place you see if you like it as it may well have gone later in the day.... Reality is it's pretty crap trying to rent in July but an honest representation of my experiences I'd much rather view a place a couple of times at different times of the day but sadly there is not that luxury.

Lifes a lot easier in June and into September but because most people leave uni and start working in Aug/Sept there is a natural yearly turnover of rentals in July and August hence demand is stupidly high for the good places. Also don't forget gumtree etc, now deposits are held by an independant company private landlords cannot rip people off as they did in the past and you can avoid a lot of the estate agents.. "finding fee", "admin fee", "inventory fee", "booking in fee", "answering the phone fee"...

Hope this helps..

Chucklehead

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2,733 posts

208 months

Friday 18th July 2014
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Great advice, thanks.

Typically is it 1 month + first month + a small admin fee? 1750 x2 + ~200?

Hackney

6,841 posts

208 months

Monday 28th July 2014
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Chucklehead said:
Great advice, thanks.

Typically is it 1 month + first month + a small admin fee? 1750 x2 + ~200?
Could be 6 weeks + first month + larger admin fee (Foxtons is £420 at themoment)

BrabusMog

20,146 posts

186 months

Monday 28th July 2014
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Hackney said:
Could be 6 weeks + first month + larger admin fee (Foxtons is £420 at themoment)
£420 admin fee?! Jesus, it was about £200 max the last time I rented a place although that was 6 years ago and through Haart.

okgo

38,035 posts

198 months

Monday 28th July 2014
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Always been more with Foxtons, 370 odd back in the day when I was there.

BrabusMog

20,146 posts

186 months

Monday 28th July 2014
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I guess those fridges full of soft drinks don't pay for themselves smile

Chucklehead

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2,733 posts

208 months

Monday 28th July 2014
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Looks like I'm moving to Barnsbury!

Thanks all or your help. I'll probably have more questions nearer the move, but I'll seek out the London forum for that.

Cheers