Never fill a running Generator

Never fill a running Generator

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keslake

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657 posts

206 months

Monday 21st July 2014
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Just witnessed the aftermath of a terrible accident and without appearing to patronise anyone or state the obvious
would like to stress just how bloody dangerous it is.

I have my Boat moored in Tollesbury Marina on the east coast of Essex and another boat owner took his dinghy out to his motor launch which is on a swing mooring on the Blackwater.

Apparently he was filling a running generator on his motor launch and spilt some petrol.

Blew the top of his boat off and poor chap has 75% burns, along with lung damage where he inhaled the flames.

Astonishing thing is he managed to pilot his dinghy best part of a mile back to the marina before he collapsed.

I'm not sure why i am posting this really and i won't go into graphic detail but the sight of him burnt like that and going into shock has shook me up badly and i guess all i am saying is please, please be very careful with petrol.

To be honest i am guilty of doing the exact same thing in the past but by christ i will never, ever do it again.

I can't praise the Air Ambulance and coast guard enough for their quick attendance and hopefully the guy will pull through, although he was in a very bad way when they lifted him off to Broomfield burns unit.

Thanks for reading guys and please think twice if you are ever tempted to fill a running generator.

J4CKO

41,557 posts

200 months

Monday 21st July 2014
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Good advice, memorised.

tenpenceshort

32,880 posts

217 months

Monday 21st July 2014
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Someone should have shouted at him, Jenny! Don't be hasty!

Spare tyre

9,572 posts

130 months

Monday 21st July 2014
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see this all the time at le mans, usually pissed brits furious

scary stuff petrol

We have a diesel generator, which is much better in everyway i can think, apart from everyone tries to pinch it

Du1point8

21,607 posts

192 months

Monday 21st July 2014
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Wasnt there a PHer that got caught out by an exploding petrol can?

Petrol/lighter fluid too close to BBQ after use and blew due to heat... There was a running story on his injuries, etc...

Council Baby

19,741 posts

190 months

Monday 21st July 2014
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Du1point8 said:
Wasnt there a PHer that got caught out by an exploding petrol can?

Petrol/lighter fluid too close to BBQ after use and blew due to heat... There was a running story on his injuries, etc...
Emsman, AKA Dusty964, he's ok now though thumbup

stuart-b

3,643 posts

226 months

Monday 21st July 2014
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Feck me, you don't mess with petrol.

Reminded me of that car thread (BMW 8 series) where the chap drained the petrol tank into a shallow bucket under the car - most people thought that was dangerous due to the fumes!

Hope he is ok - one silly moment, life potentially ruined forever!

TwistingMyMelon

6,385 posts

205 months

Monday 21st July 2014
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Remember being 15 on a go kart track when I ran out of fuel, the "operator" ran over with a fag in his mouth and poured the petrol in the kart (with me still strapped in) whilst still having his fag in his mouth!

GTIR

24,741 posts

266 months

Monday 21st July 2014
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I don't think petrol can be ignited by a cigerette, well never in the times in Thailand I filled up with fuel anyway.

It's usually ignited bar a far hotter source, usually a turbo or exhaust. It has an ignition temperature of around 495° F, oddly a lit cigertte-end is between 700° F and 1100° F so should ignite it but doesn't.


Du1point8

21,607 posts

192 months

Monday 21st July 2014
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GTIR said:
I don't think petrol can be ignited by a cigerette, well never in the times in Thailand I filled up with fuel anyway.

It's usually ignited bar a far hotter source, usually a turbo or exhaust. It has an ignition temperature of around 495° F, oddly a lit cigertte-end is between 700° F and 1100° F so should ignite it but doesn't.
Thought it was proven its the vapor or needs to be an actual flame.

if you throw it in a puddle of petrol it will put it out.

Pixelpeep

8,600 posts

142 months

Monday 21st July 2014
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Du1point8 said:
Thought it was proven its the vapor or needs to be an actual flame.

if you throw it in a puddle of petrol it will put it out.
Unless it's a massive lifesize fake cigarette like they used in Con-Air.

Dusty964

6,923 posts

190 months

Monday 21st July 2014
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Council Baby said:
Du1point8 said:
Wasnt there a PHer that got caught out by an exploding petrol can?

Petrol/lighter fluid too close to BBQ after use and blew due to heat... There was a running story on his injuries, etc...
Emsman, AKA Dusty964, he's ok now though thumbup
healed up nicely, lungs cured, eye is fine, deaf in one ear- it has it's advantages.

good luck to the guy in the OP, a long, painful and smelly road ahead, but it's incredible just how fully you recover, given time.


I'm Rick james

250 posts

153 months

Monday 21st July 2014
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Duly noted. I have done some silly similar things whilst fuelling things. Will think twice now.
Thanks
Rj

m444ttb

3,160 posts

229 months

Monday 21st July 2014
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When I was in my early teens my Dad was using me as forced labour on his allotment and a lady a few plots down decided to get her bonfire going a bit better by tipping 5L of petrol onto it. She was very lucky with no skin burns worse than sunburn and some seriously burnt hair. The only image I can remember is her long fuzzy hair flashing over with fire!

caziques

2,572 posts

168 months

Monday 21st July 2014
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It's petrol vapour that's the problem.

Strangely enough in a crash it's brake fluid rather than petrol that is the culprit for starting fires. Petrol onto a hot exhaust manifold is fine, brake fluid catches fire.

GTIR

24,741 posts

266 months

Monday 21st July 2014
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I got my BBQ going, as it was taking too long, with a can of Jizer and a lighter.

My 4yo sone said that is was a silly thing to do.

Pfft. What does he know!

Leptons

5,113 posts

176 months

Monday 21st July 2014
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Jesus. Bit of a wake up call for me this. Always doing it in the back of the van! Not anymore!

WhyAyeMan

73 posts

119 months

Monday 21st July 2014
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You wouldn't put petrol in a car with the engine running, so why on earth would you do it up because the engine is in a generator instead? Can anyone enlighten me as it seems like a pretty foolish thing to do.

P I Staker

3,308 posts

156 months

Monday 21st July 2014
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tenpenceshort said:
Someone should have shouted at him, Jenny! Don't be hasty!
Christ hehe


Had never really considered the dangers of this, noted for the future.

226bhp

10,203 posts

128 months

Monday 21st July 2014
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WhyAyeMan said:
You wouldn't put petrol in a car with the engine running, so why on earth would you do it up because the engine is in a generator instead? Can anyone enlighten me as it seems like a pretty foolish thing to do.
There's no danger in filling a car while it's running.

Unless it's running away from you....