Shelby on gas....

Shelby on gas....

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Upatdawn

Original Poster:

2,184 posts

148 months

Tuesday 22nd July 2014
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No, not NOS........


Could a Shelby (supercharged) Mustang run OK on LPG?


Roo

11,503 posts

207 months

Tuesday 22nd July 2014
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Yes.


Or no.

Depends on what Shelby you're asking about.

Edited by Roo on Tuesday 22 July 20:59

Fartgalen

6,635 posts

207 months

Wednesday 23rd July 2014
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Shelby + LPG = does not compute.

Why are you even asking that ? It's like buying an Alpina, or an AMG, or a Cosworth and converting to LPG. Just. Why ?

vaughan watkins

512 posts

211 months

Thursday 24th July 2014
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Fartgalen said:
Shelby + LPG = does not compute.

Why are you even asking that ? It's like buying an Alpina, or an AMG, or a Cosworth and converting to LPG. Just. Why ?
Possibly cause he wants to drive it a lot and not let it sit in the garage being looked at, some of us actually drive our cars, I get that question all the time and it annoys me, I drive a 2009 dodge challenger SRT8 as a daily and spending £200 a week on petrol hurts no matter how rich you are, which I am not, so why not convert it and make it cost you half in fuel, you can switch it off at any point you want to run on petrol, best thing I ever did to be honest. makes driving it a lot more enjoyable when your not cringing at having to fill up every 200 miles or so with £90 of petrol and putting £45 of gas instead.

Matt Harper

6,615 posts

201 months

Thursday 24th July 2014
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You're running a 6.1 SRT-8 on LPG? (There may be trouble ahead……..)

vaughan watkins

512 posts

211 months

Thursday 24th July 2014
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Matt Harper said:
You're running a 6.1 SRT-8 on LPG? (There may be trouble ahead……..)
Whys that Matt ?? Their reported to be no issues with it ? No need for flash lube like Chevys, so what do you know that prinz don't ?

vaughan watkins

512 posts

211 months

Thursday 24th July 2014
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Matt Harper said:
You're running a 6.1 SRT-8 on LPG? (There may be trouble ahead……..)
Whys that Matt ?? Their reported to be no issues with it ? No need for flash lube like Chevys, so what do you know that prinz don't ?

Roo

11,503 posts

207 months

Thursday 24th July 2014
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Mopar are the least problematic engines I've seen with LPG conversions but I have still seen burnt pistons and valves on them.

Chevy and Ford tend to burn valve seats.

Personal recommendation would be to run it at least 25% of the time on petrol to get some lubrication in thetop of the engine.

Fartgalen

6,635 posts

207 months

Thursday 24th July 2014
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If you can afford a Shelby, of whichever generation, then surely you can afford a cheap snotter to "do the mileage" in ? If it is your only car, then it's "hat's off" from me for using them daily. I don't need to, nor would I want to.

vaughan watkins

512 posts

211 months

Friday 25th July 2014
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Fartgalen said:
If you can afford a Shelby, of whichever generation, then surely you can afford a cheap snotter to "do the mileage" in ? If it is your only car, then it's "hat's off" from me for using them daily. I don't need to, nor would I want to.
I did try that but hated driving a normal car everyday so that's why I LPG'd it and said fk it I'm driving it daily :-)

Matt Harper

6,615 posts

201 months

Friday 25th July 2014
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vaughan watkins said:
Whys that Matt ?? Their reported to be no issues with it ? No need for flash lube like Chevys, so what do you know that prinz don't ?
The 372ci motor needs very, very consistent upper cylinder lubrication in order to avoid valve seat damage (valves themselves are less susceptible due to sodium cooling). Piston crowns and valve seats are what you are likely to damage. I would imagine your LPG converted SRT-8 is rendered virtually un-sellable to anyone who has any mechanical know-how with this engine (which has very little in common with it's 5.7l sibling).

vaughan watkins

512 posts

211 months

Sunday 27th July 2014
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Matt Harper said:
The 372ci motor needs very, very consistent upper cylinder lubrication in order to avoid valve seat damage (valves themselves are less susceptible due to sodium cooling). Piston crowns and valve seats are what you are likely to damage. I would imagine your LPG converted SRT-8 is rendered virtually un-sellable to anyone who has any mechanical know-how with this engine (which has very little in common with it's 5.7l sibling).
Hmmm thanks for that positive note, I find it strange that prinz don't recognise these problems with the 6.1 ? I know they do look into it and recommend pre lube if needed bit they say it doesn't ? Well just as well I don't plan on selling it then lol

Matt Harper

6,615 posts

201 months

Monday 28th July 2014
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I'm unsure who Prinz is - I'm guessing Prins Autogas? Did they sell/install your LPG system? If so they're hardly likely to tell you that their product could damage your cylinder heads, I'd imagine.
Not to worry though. If you're confident everything's going to be OK, then knock yourself out. Out of interest, I wonder how many LPG converted 372/392 Hemis are on the street in the UK….. one maybe?
If I was in your position, I'd go back to them and demand something in writing that guarantees their LPG conversion against damaging your motor and what their course of action is going to be if your valve seats or pistons get frazzled.


Roo

11,503 posts

207 months

Monday 28th July 2014
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^^^ It will come with a twelve month guarantee from the installer.

We underwrite our own warranty on cars. New cars come with three year/36,000 mile coverage. If you fit LPG it invalidates any engine coverage.

When I worked for a Chrysler/Jeep dealer having LPG fitted would invalidate the whole vehicle manufacturer warranty.

vaughan watkins

512 posts

211 months

Tuesday 29th July 2014
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Well I will just have to take the risk as there aint nothing I can do now, but I have done some 24k miles in 17 months with it and it still ran a 13.7 second quarter at the pod on sunday.

Roo

11,503 posts

207 months

Tuesday 29th July 2014
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If I'd known I was going to keep my Mustang as long as I have I would've LPG converted it from new.

Would have saved me a few quid over the last six years.

Meanwhile the OP has disappeared off the face of the earth.

vaughan watkins

512 posts

211 months

Thursday 31st July 2014
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Roo said:
If I'd known I was going to keep my Mustang as long as I have I would've LPG converted it from new.

Would have saved me a few quid over the last six years.

Meanwhile the OP has disappeared off the face of the earth.
I know The Mustang Workshop used to service a reps mustang that was on LPG, it had covered 250k miles and was still running well with no issues !