removing tint film from non-homologated visors

removing tint film from non-homologated visors

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Blackpuddin

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16,476 posts

205 months

Thursday 24th July 2014
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Is there a practical process for removing the coloured film from a non-homologated tinted visor, and it so, does it leave you with a useable clear visor?

Blackpuddin

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205 months

Wednesday 20th August 2014
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moanthebairns

17,932 posts

198 months

Wednesday 20th August 2014
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I very, very much doubt it.

just buy a road legal one if it bothers you.

Blackpuddin

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205 months

Wednesday 20th August 2014
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It really is worth it given that you can buy a non-homologated one - which would start off as a clear one that's had a coating added - for under £15. How do the clear, uncoated and legal ones become £40-£50? There's no justification for that sort of price. We're being conned.

WaferThinHam

1,680 posts

130 months

Wednesday 20th August 2014
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Blackpuddin said:
It really is worth it given that you can buy a non-homologated one - which would start off as a clear one that's had a coating added - for under £15. How do the clear, uncoated and legal ones become £40-£50? There's no justification for that sort of price. We're being conned.
I might be being very naive here, but all the dark visors I've bought have just been darker plastic. They're not clear with a tinted film added...

Unless you're buying el cheapo chinese knock off black visors in which case they may well be. If you're doing that, just buy an el cheapo chinese knock off clear visor. If it's clear, they won't check it. Hell most aren't even bothered about dark visors if used correctly.

Edited by WaferThinHam on Wednesday 20th August 12:02

moanthebairns

17,932 posts

198 months

Wednesday 20th August 2014
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Blackpuddin said:
It really is worth it given that you can buy a non-homologated one - which would start off as a clear one that's had a coating added - for under £15. How do the clear, uncoated and legal ones become £40-£50? There's no justification for that sort of price. We're being conned.
so you have a dark one and rather than buy a clear one for £15 you want to wreck the £40 one.

I mean I love a bargain, hell I'm as tight as they come but for fk sake even I draw the line here.


Blackpuddin

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Wednesday 20th August 2014
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moanthebairns said:
Blackpuddin said:
It really is worth it given that you can buy a non-homologated one - which would start off as a clear one that's had a coating added - for under £15. How do the clear, uncoated and legal ones become £40-£50? There's no justification for that sort of price. We're being conned.
so you have a dark one and rather than buy a clear one for £15 you want to wreck the £40 one.

I mean I love a bargain, hell I'm as tight as they come but for fk sake even I draw the line here.
Nay lad you've got it wrong: I bought a non-hom tinted one for £15 to avoid paying £40-£50 for a clear one. Clear ones are not available for £15. If they were I wouldn't be on here moaning wink

moanthebairns

17,932 posts

198 months

Wednesday 20th August 2014
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Blackpuddin said:
moanthebairns said:
Blackpuddin said:
It really is worth it given that you can buy a non-homologated one - which would start off as a clear one that's had a coating added - for under £15. How do the clear, uncoated and legal ones become £40-£50? There's no justification for that sort of price. We're being conned.
so you have a dark one and rather than buy a clear one for £15 you want to wreck the £40 one.

I mean I love a bargain, hell I'm as tight as they come but for fk sake even I draw the line here.
Nay lad you've got it wrong: I bought a non-hom tinted one for £15 to avoid paying £40-£50 for a clear one. Clear ones are not available for £15. If they were I wouldn't be on here moaning wink
whats the helmet and brand

I can see your point, if it can be done. which I doubt its as I've always thought that it was a different colour polymer resin used for tinted visors

Rubin215

3,987 posts

156 months

Wednesday 20th August 2014
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Just use a really strong solvent...







whistle

Blackpuddin

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16,476 posts

205 months

Wednesday 20th August 2014
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Rubin215 said:
Just use a really strong solvent...







whistle
Hmm yes thanks for your input biggrin.
The helmet is an HJC CL-14. Have looked for reasonably priced clear visors without success.

Blackpuddin

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16,476 posts

205 months

Wednesday 20th August 2014
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The HJC visor replacement procedure is a royal pain and I may just bite the bullet and look for a replacement lid, any recommendations for light, quiet and reasonably priced helmets? Or are those three features mutually exclusive these days?

moanthebairns

17,932 posts

198 months

Wednesday 20th August 2014
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http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/HJC-Helmet-Shield-Visor-...

eh am I missing something £16, ok its from south korea but it will be here within a week or so

WaferThinHam

1,680 posts

130 months

Wednesday 20th August 2014
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Sod having a knock off visor 2 inches away from my eyes.

btdk5

1,850 posts

190 months

Wednesday 20th August 2014
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WaferThinHam said:
Sod having a knock off visor 2 inches away from my eyes.
This + how come the helmet didnt come with a clear visor to start with??

Blackpuddin

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Wednesday 20th August 2014
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btdk5 said:
WaferThinHam said:
Sod having a knock off visor 2 inches away from my eyes.
This + how come the helmet didnt come with a clear visor to start with??
It did wink but it's pretty marked up now, hence this thread.

moanthebairns

17,932 posts

198 months

Wednesday 20th August 2014
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I have an original and a knock off visor, im going to do an impact test to see if there is any difference, by that I mean do both meet the minimum pass level.

I sincerely doubt there will be much difference.

WaferThinHam

1,680 posts

130 months

Wednesday 20th August 2014
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moanthebairns said:
I have an original and a knock off visor, im going to do an impact test to see if there is any difference, by that I mean do both meet the minimum pass level.

I sincerely doubt there will be much difference.
I'd be interested to see the results to be fair.

I'd also consider what kind of failure occurs, i.e. does it just snap, or does it shatter into a million blinding pieces.

Blackpuddin

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205 months

Wednesday 20th August 2014
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This would be my concern also, I'm happy to pay a reasonable sum for OEM but over £40 but a slice of polycarb/Lexan/whatever is barking.

moanthebairns

17,932 posts

198 months

Wednesday 20th August 2014
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WaferThinHam said:
moanthebairns said:
I have an original and a knock off visor, im going to do an impact test to see if there is any difference, by that I mean do both meet the minimum pass level.

I sincerely doubt there will be much difference.
I'd be interested to see the results to be fair.

I'd also consider what kind of failure occurs, i.e. does it just snap, or does it shatter into a million blinding pieces.
plastic doesn't shatter typically.

secure a visor as it would be in the helmet

elevate a impact weight, in this case 2 kg plump weight that is tipped increasing the force of at impact, drop from a specific height, consistent height for both visors.

note the results.

typically you should repeat the test 5 times at least to get a mean.

SAS Tom

3,401 posts

174 months

Wednesday 20th August 2014
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Blackpuddin said:
Nay lad you've got it wrong: I bought a non-hom tinted one for £15 to avoid paying £40-£50 for a clear one. Clear ones are not available for £15. If they were I wouldn't be on here moaning wink
So basically you've wasted £15 whilst trying to save £20. Does what you're trying to do actually make sense in your head because it doesn't to me?