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Fotic

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719 posts

129 months

Friday 25th July 2014
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Any investors on here? If so, are you prepared to talk to us about your experiences? Looks good from both a borrower and lender perspectives and am thinking of loaning some money out. Primary concern is bad debt levels and how liquid your investment is.

Twin2

268 posts

122 months

Saturday 26th July 2014
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Yes, I use it, mainly because it's quite an interesting way of getting a better rate than in the bank.

I've had no bad debt at all, and that's been a year. A lot of the loans are guaranteed by the directors of he company, or indeed some new ones are secured against property so it is fairly secure.

I have averaged 7.6%, not bad compared to ISAs at ~2%...

Not terribly sure on the liquidity side of things because I've never sold any of my loan parts, hopefully someone else can help with that, it'd be interesting to know...

Supernova190188

903 posts

139 months

Saturday 26th July 2014
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Surely some of these companies could get loans off banks or other lenders at less than 7,8,9% ?

lukefreeman

1,494 posts

175 months

Saturday 26th July 2014
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Supernova190188 said:
Surely some of these companies could get loans off banks or other lenders at less than 7,8,9% ?
Not start ups, or companies who want to borrow more than the usual good personal loan offers (£15k+)

PetrolTed

34,425 posts

303 months

Saturday 26th July 2014
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I've got a nominal amount in to test the waters. Only been invested a few months though so not much to report. Looks worth a punt though. I'll be giving it a few more months and then perhaps put something more substantial in. Does take time to get invested though if you don't want to risk the higher risk loans.

ringram

14,700 posts

248 months

Saturday 26th July 2014
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Utter crap experience.

Went for only A rated stuff early on. But combo of prepack's and other shenanigans meant I barely got my money back.
Add on the time and Im down in net present value terms.

Sounds like others have had better luck.

IMO Ratesetter or Zopa are better and have guarantee's

mids

1,505 posts

258 months

Monday 28th July 2014
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You're not on your own ringram, my experience has been exactly the same.

PetrolTed

34,425 posts

303 months

Tuesday 29th July 2014
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Useful to know chaps. Will halt any further investment. Surprised I didn't encounter such experiences when I was doing my research.

Newc

1,865 posts

182 months

Wednesday 30th July 2014
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Yes, exactly the same experience as Ringram with pre-packs and what seemed to be a combination of poor credit reviewing and a sense that people taking loans on a corporate basis leave any moral obligation to repay at the door. You're getting equity style risk for debt style return. I withdrew completely and was at best break-even. Now with P2P I only use Crowdcube for equity exposure* and Zopa for debt. Excellent experiences with both there (see disclaimer...)



  • Disclaimer - Crowdcube is a great platform and I support its philosophy of improving access to capital funding for small firms BUT it is at the risky end of the scale like a fully grown tiger in a two-bed flat flat is a risky choice for a toddler's first pet. If you can't afford to lose 100% of your money don't do SEIS investing.

Fotic

Original Poster:

719 posts

129 months

Wednesday 30th July 2014
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Interesting.

How much research did you do into the co's you invested in and what %age of your investment went into individual co's?

Simpo Two

85,412 posts

265 months

Wednesday 30th July 2014
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Newc said:
like a fully grown tiger in a two-bed flat flat is a risky choice for a toddler's first pet.
Nice phrase! I expect every IFA from Lands End to John O'Groats will now drop the 'crystal ball' line and use the tiger line instead smile

Newc

1,865 posts

182 months

Wednesday 30th July 2014
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Fotic said:
How much research did you do into the co's you invested in and what %age of your investment went into individual co's?
Was a while ago but as I remember I went with their credit reviews and stuck to the A graded offers, and put a few hundred in each. Final straw was a firm that went under after about 3 months, total wipeout of creditors (note you are junior unsecured debt). I did a lot of digging around and the firm had pre-packed, and re-opened the following week same premises, officers, name, business line.



Edited by Newc on Saturday 2nd August 08:18

Ginge R

4,761 posts

219 months

Wednesday 30th July 2014
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Nice turn of phrase - expect to see it in a blog of mine or a tweet sometime soon. wink

P2P will soon be available in an ISA - that will add a new dimension (layer of admin) to regulation, clarity and transparency as the major providers start to sniff around.

anonymous-user

54 months

Wednesday 30th July 2014
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Without going into too much detail, my experience of Funding Circle has not been great.

Luckily I just invested a small amount to test the water.

Simpo Two

85,412 posts

265 months

Wednesday 30th July 2014
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My tiger is dining on fillet steak...

ringram

14,700 posts

248 months

Wednesday 30th July 2014
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Personal stuff comes with legal recourse and some lenders offer guarantee's

Why would you risk(waste) money on corporate shell's with no come back!?
Now if/when they add a guarantee that might be a different story.

As above, too many cocks who fancy free cash and wind up their companies once they have it. Avoid IMO.

ringram

14,700 posts

248 months

Monday 4th August 2014
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Thought this may be of interest.
They helpfully remove their credit rating from all bad debts so you cant see how shocking their rating scheme is.


Simpo Two

85,412 posts

265 months

Monday 4th August 2014
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So they lose about 40% of what they lend? Seems pretty careless to me.

Maybe I should borrow some money from them and not pay it back! = infinte %age gain.

TheRainMaker

6,334 posts

242 months

Tuesday 5th August 2014
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I put some money in a few years ago... (not much to be fair)

There does seem to be a high default rate, also for some reason the website won't let you transfer money out at the moment....

I used the auto bid section and just let it do its thing.




Pistom

4,967 posts

159 months

Saturday 9th August 2014
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Simpo Two said:
Newc said:
like a fully grown tiger in a two-bed flat flat is a risky choice for a toddler's first pet.
Nice phrase! I expect every IFA from Lands End to John O'Groats will now drop the 'crystal ball' line and use the tiger line instead smile
I'm no IFA but it's the first time I've heard that and I'm stealing it.