Neutering a male cat that isn't yours

[Oakey]

Are people in this thread really talking about killing peoples pets? Do people on this site have no concept of the reward to risk ratio?

Proposal: kill someone's cat

Reward: no more problem with cats (until the replacement appears)

Risk: get found out, arrested, possible prison sentence, vilified by the community, forever known locally as 'cat killer'

[Nigel Worc's]

Oakey said:

Are people in this thread really talking about killing peoples pets? Do people on this site have no concept of the reward to risk ratio?

Proposal: kill someone's cat

Reward: no more problem with cats (until the replacement appears)

Risk: get found out, arrested, possible prison sentence, vilified by the community, forever known locally as 'cat killer'

It is illegal to kill a dog, as they are a notifiable animal, I'm not sure it is illegal to kill cats, I was under the impression that they have the same status as other vermin, and to get them above that status, their owners would need to become responsible for them.

[shoehorn]

McGraw said:

Secondly, to anyone who was an entire male cat, don't they spray in your house?

Mine is fully functional,I couldn`t bring myself to do it to him (and have yet to find a vet brave enough)but I think its down to feeling like there is a need,lack of confidence or perception of threat or competition is a trigger,apparently neutering wont always stop spraying

Or the urge to hump.
In our garden and the surrounding fields there is no direct competitor,save the odd fox that fancies its chances,even our goats give a wide berth.
Never seen or smelt evidence of spraying but have noticed a lot of him rubbing against prominent trees,fence posts and my boots. .

[tex200]

Nigel Worc's said:

Oakey said:

Are people in this thread really talking about killing peoples pets? Do people on this site have no concept of the reward to risk ratio?

Proposal: kill someone's cat

Reward: no more problem with cats (until the replacement appears)

Risk: get found out, arrested, possible prison sentence, vilified by the community, forever known locally as 'cat killer'

It is illegal to kill a dog, as they are a notifiable animal, I'm not sure it is illegal to kill cats, I was under the impression that they have the same status as other vermin, and to get them above that status, their owners would need to become responsible for them.

cats are not vermin and, as somebody else said, you really are an unpleasant person.

You will also find it's perfectly legal for someone to kill your lovely pet dog in the right circumstances.

[Oakey]

Nigel Worc's said:

It is illegal to kill a dog, as they are a notifiable animal, I'm not sure it is illegal to kill cats, I was under the impression that they have the same status as other vermin, and to get them above that status, their owners would need to become responsible for them.

Ah, another armchair expert who can't be bothered to fact check before imparting their invaluable advice to the forum.

Of course it's illegal;

Animal Welfare Act 2006
The Act contains provisions which are aimed at preventing cruelty and promoting and ensuring the welfare of animals.

The Act applies to both domestic and feral cats. In addition to cruelty offences, the Act now places an obligation on owners – as well as those in charge of or responsible for cats – to ensure that their welfare needs are met, emphasising the need:

• for a suitable environment – place to live
• for a suitable diet
• to exhibit normal behaviour patterns
• to be housed with, or apart from, other animals
• to be protected from pain, suffering, injury and disease

The penalties for committing an offence of cruelty or for failing to provide for an animal’s welfare needs include a ban from owning animals, a fine of up to £20,000 or, in some cases, a six-month prison sentence.
The Act also increases the minimum age at which anyone can buy a cat or other animal to 16.

[McGraw]

shoehorn said:

Mine is fully functional,I couldn`t bring myself to do it to him (and have yet to find a vet brave enough)but I think its down to feeling like there is a need,lack of confidence or perception of threat or competition is a trigger,apparently neutering wont always stop spraying

Or the urge to hump.
In our garden and the surrounding fields there is no direct competitor,save the odd fox that fancies its chances,even our goats give a wide berth.
Never seen or smelt evidence of spraying but have noticed a lot of him rubbing against prominent trees,fence posts and my boots. .

I was under the impression that neutering males gives them a much more chilled out life as they don't care about mating.

Our pet male may "mount" one of our females if they are pestering him incessantly for days but he does not seek it out.

[Oakey]

Nigel Worc's said:

I wouldn't like it at all, but neither would I let them climb over your fence and crap in your garden, as I take responsibility for my pets.

It's easy to say you take responsibility for your pets when your pet of choice lacks the ability to scale fking walls and fences and letting them outside is a simple case of opening the door because they can't go anywhere. Let's not kid ourselves though, if your dogs could jump fences and st in peoples gardens they'd be doing it too.

[otolith]

Ah, I think the mods have been cleaning up the contributions from the resident sociopaths, excellent.

[Vaud]

Nigel Worc's said:

It is illegal to kill a dog, as they are a notifiable animal, I'm not sure it is illegal to kill cats, I was under the impression that they have the same status as other vermin, and to get them above that status, their owners would need to become responsible for them.

Not vermin.

Check your facts before you post. It will take you seconds with Google and save lots of strangers thinking you are a deeply unpleasant person.

[alock]

Oakey said:

Are people in this thread really talking about killing peoples pets?

Do some cat owners not realise how many times every week I have to cleanup their st from my garden?

It gets really annoying and I can easily see how a minority of garden owners could snap.

[Vaud]

alock said:

Do some cat owners not realise how many times every week I have to cleanup their st from my garden?

It gets really annoying and I can easily see how a minority of garden owners could snap.

Herons steal my goldfish.
Birds poo on my car.
Other birds pick moss from my roof and throw it on my path.

Time to lock and load?

Seriously though, super soaker or garden hose is enough to deter most cats, they probably won't come back. A cat used to own me, and I always said to the neighbours that if it was on their car / pooing in their garden then feel free to turn the hose on it.

[Oakey]

otolith said:

Ah, I think the mods have been cleaning up the contributions from the resident sociopaths, excellent.

I don't even think they are sociopaths, they just want strangers on the internet to think they are. They come out with this st but I bet very few of them would actually go through with it. It's like there's an unspoken competition on this forum lately where PH'ers try to one up each other over who can be the biggest, nastiest horrible 'psychopath'.

[standardman]

"I don't even think they are sociopaths, they just want strangers on the internet to think they are. They come out with this st but I bet very few of them would actually go through with it. It's like there's an unspoken competition on this forum lately where PH'ers try to one up each other over who can be the biggest, nastiest horrible 'psychopath'. "

I would love the forum members to be sat in a room with neon signs above there heads with their names on. I think the threads would be different. I suspect not all are heavily built goatee directors.

[karona]

I lead a cat neutering charity, so don't let your intact toms anywhere near. 40 pairs of kitty-knackers removed so far this year, because it's easier 'doing' the boys than the girls and I've got a BOGOF deal with the local vet. There's 10,000 more to do, though.

http://sofiaglobe.com/2014/07/27/bulgarias-plovdiv...

[Blakewater]

austinsmirk said:

If some feckless lonely female wants a cat, why can't she go to the pound and get one for free ?

My mother lives on her own with a cat. My father died of cancer years ago. She knows other women who live on their own, some of them with cats. It's amazing how much trouble she and other women in her situation have with bullying neighbours, mainly pathetic middle aged men trying to be hard, because they see women on their own as a soft touch to pick on.

[numtumfutunch]

Dear OP

I have a male dog
He is the most placid and well behaved creature you could imagine

Every now and then somebody takes a female dog who happens to be on heat into the local park
My dog goes berserk and is uncontrollable

I can only imagine the local male moggies do the same when your little cuddly princesses fancy a shag too

Are you sure you are fit to have animals?

cheers

[Martin4x4]

The Cats Protection neuter stray(ing) toms all the time and is regarded as entirely legal.

I like the the way you bandy around the Registered Breeder label when all that means is you completed a form and paid a fee. You didn't pass any exams on genetics and I would hazard you have little or no experience since you don't really appreciate several pertinant facts.

You can and should vaccinate against felv; and if you neuter the local tom it will make little difference. When your queens are in heat they will attract all the entire Toms from a considerable distance.

[SV8Predator]

Nigel Worc's said:

I was under the impression that they have the same status as other vermin,

Despite all the obvious bo11ocks and bullst that you've been posting for years, you've really excelled yourself this evening.

Well done, bloke!

[Vaud]

Martin4x4 said:

The Cats Protection neuter stray(ing) toms all the time and is regarded as entirely legal.

Not random animals, only those that they re asked to by owners, and for unclaimed strays. The don't wander the streets looking for random cats.

[Martin4x4]

I love it when people parade their ignorance by calling cats vermin; because it allows be to educated them.

After a millenia of using cats to kill real vermin like Rats from infesting food stores, in the middle ages people started to persecute cats. Believe it not the Church used to burn them at the stake for witchcraft. The resulting crash in the cat population allowed the Black Rat to thrive and with it came the Black Death. It was only when so many people died and allowed a feral cat population to recover and started predating the Rats agin that we got a break we needed to clean up our act. Ironic really.