Neutering a male cat that isn't yours
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Vaud said:
Not random animals, only those that they re asked to by owners, and for unclaimed strays. The don't wander the streets looking for random cats.
I did not suggest they "wander the streets looking for random cats." So please do not try to put words in my mouth and instead reread what I wrote carefully.
Martin4x4 said:
I did not suggest they "wander the streets looking for random cats." So please do not try to put words in my mouth and instead reread what I wrote carefully.
I did read it.You said, "stray(ing) toms". A cat can be straying (homeless) but not caught or handed in to the RSPCA, Cats Protection, etc.
When it's handed in they may do something. But it can be straying but not yet caught.
To be even more pedantic, once caught, it arguably has a home and provider, it is no longer a stray, so they are neutering a cat under their protection, they are interim owners with the limited liability cats come with. When you adopt a cat you are not adopting a stray, you are adopting it from the charity.
Needlessly pedantic, apologies.
numtumfutunch said:
Dear OP
I have a male dog
He is the most placid and well behaved creature you could imagine
Every now and then somebody takes a female dog who happens to be on heat into the local park
My dog goes berserk and is uncontrollable
I can only imagine the local male moggies do the same when your little cuddly princesses fancy a shag too
Are you sure you are fit to have animals?
cheers
My cats are in my own back garden and although they would never be left out when on call, I'm sure there must be a risk of them being fertile before I realise it but not before the local tom does.I have a male dog
He is the most placid and well behaved creature you could imagine
Every now and then somebody takes a female dog who happens to be on heat into the local park
My dog goes berserk and is uncontrollable
I can only imagine the local male moggies do the same when your little cuddly princesses fancy a shag too
Are you sure you are fit to have animals?
cheers
You have admitted to having an uncontrollable dog...are you sure it is uncontrollable or is it that you can't control it?
Edited by McGraw on Tuesday 29th July 08:38
Martin4x4 said:
The Cats Protection neuter stray(ing) toms all the time and is regarded as entirely legal.
I like the the way you bandy around the Registered Breeder label when all that means is you completed a form and paid a fee. You didn't pass any exams on genetics and I would hazard you have little or no experience since you don't really appreciate several pertinant facts.
You can and should vaccinate against felv; and if you neuter the local tom it will make little difference. When your queens are in heat they will attract all the entire Toms from a considerable distance.
I stated that we are registered breeders so there was no thought that we just randomly decided to not have the girls done.I like the the way you bandy around the Registered Breeder label when all that means is you completed a form and paid a fee. You didn't pass any exams on genetics and I would hazard you have little or no experience since you don't really appreciate several pertinant facts.
You can and should vaccinate against felv; and if you neuter the local tom it will make little difference. When your queens are in heat they will attract all the entire Toms from a considerable distance.
There is actually quite a lot more to it than you imply. We attended seminars and signed up for a charter that ensures the cats aren't sold too young amongst other things because we wanted to do things properly.
No, we haven't passed any exams on genetics but my other half knows a heck of a lot more than you would believe. Certainly enough to know what potential combinations of patterns and colours we can produce depending on the stud.
Why vaccinate for FLV when your cats aren't going to be exposed to other cats? The vaccination has its risks. Our fear is that if the owner (if there is one) hasn't had the cat done than it may not have had its vaccinations.
As soon as we see other cats on the wall, we bring our cats in until they have gone. This cat is different, it is fearless and just jumps straight in.
We have been doing this for about 5 years and have put more time and effort into it and have faced some heartbreak on the way so don't start trying to be a know it all as you blatantly aren't one.
Some Gump said:
Wow OP, just wow.
I've always thought of cat people as slightly mad, but seriously? If you're breeders then presumably you love animals. How the hell can you come to the logical conclusion that you can chop a cats knackers off, just to suit your breeding business? Jesus.
I haven't though? I asked for the legalities of it as a potentially interesting discussion topic after it had crossed my mind.I've always thought of cat people as slightly mad, but seriously? If you're breeders then presumably you love animals. How the hell can you come to the logical conclusion that you can chop a cats knackers off, just to suit your breeding business? Jesus.
How many more times do I have to state that I'm not going to do and I only ever considered it for a brief moment.
If the cat was mine it would be done, just as our non stud/pet male is. Most people get their cats neutered you know? It's pretty standard practice.
Some Gump said:
Wow OP, just wow.
I've always thought of cat people as slightly mad, but seriously? If you're breeders then presumably you love animals. How the hell can you come to the logical conclusion that you can chop a cats knackers off, just to suit your breeding business? Jesus.
The fact it hasn't already been done means it's potentially fathering kittens numbering into 3 figures on a yearly basis. Considering the number of cats up for re-homing with the likes of the RSPCA, Cats protection League etc, cats left as nature intended only add to this problem. If it's a stray then nobody should be complaining, if it's owned by somebody then they're being bloody irresponsible by not having it done, not just from the fathering unwanted kittens angle, but also, as I mentioned, they're a lot more aggressive to other cats when left un-neutered.I've always thought of cat people as slightly mad, but seriously? If you're breeders then presumably you love animals. How the hell can you come to the logical conclusion that you can chop a cats knackers off, just to suit your breeding business? Jesus.
Snowboy said:
I vaguely recall the RSPCA running a mobile unit a while back grabbing strays, snipping them, then releasing them.
I seem to remember that when our cats were done they had to be kept in for a couple of days during which time the females needed to be prevented from getting at their stitches. If the RSPCA is skipping the aftercare, it should probably be prosecuting itself!
i dread to think what the OP has 'considered for a brief moment' when local kids kick a ball in his garden etc
anyhow PH spin it - cat breeder wants to kill the competition! - who should stand in the way of a guy just trying to make a go of his business? you guardian reading lefty pansies!!
anyhow PH spin it - cat breeder wants to kill the competition! - who should stand in the way of a guy just trying to make a go of his business? you guardian reading lefty pansies!!
duckwhistle said:
Jake the Skull has been sitting on my shoulder reading this and flicking his tail. He's a lively old git and asks if you can post a pic or two of your gals.
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