Dishwasher - Siemens, Bosch or.....?
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t as well with terrible support. Just not a fan of their productsThe socket is recessed into the wall, the reason I ask about a water proof socket, is the matter of condensation, the washer will be integrated, so enclosed, my mother's dishwasher keeps tripping out.
I'm at the build stage, so I thought it might be worth replacing the face socket for an outside socket.
I'm at the build stage, so I thought it might be worth replacing the face socket for an outside socket.
Had a freestanding Bosch that went well for a few years before getting replaced with an integrated Bosch when we had a new kitchen. Also going well. Only problem we've had with it was a fragment off a plate getting stuck in the pump causing it to jam, not really the fault of the dishwasher and fixed under warranty anyway. Got £120 for the old one on eBay.
I'd have Miele stuff if it weren't so expensive but could probably buy two Bosch dishwashers for the same price as the equivalent Miele. We also have Siemens kit in the kitchen (ovens) as they looked nicer than the Bosch equivalent so I appreciate the dilemma.
I'd have Miele stuff if it weren't so expensive but could probably buy two Bosch dishwashers for the same price as the equivalent Miele. We also have Siemens kit in the kitchen (ovens) as they looked nicer than the Bosch equivalent so I appreciate the dilemma.
dhalv said:
Podie said:
Previous owners of the house we bought last year left a Miele.
Wouldn't have anything else now.
THIS!Wouldn't have anything else now.
Edited by Podie on Monday 28th July 21:12
Blue Oval84 said:
Don't want to confuse things, but the NEFF in my old house was excellent, the drawers were much more solid than the ones in our Bosch at work, I also never cleaned it in 7 years and it still works as well as day one...
Our Bosch is identical to a NEFF model in every respect apart from the name! Same with our extractor. blueg33 said:
Our Bosch is identical to a NEFF model in every respect apart from the name! Same with our extractor.
They must have gone downhill since 2005 then, the ones at work are silent but not very solid at all. The drawers aren't a smooth action when moving which causes the plates to crash about, my NEFF is totally smooth, and if you pull the drawer too far it doesn't fall off it's runners unlike the Bosch.Got a SMEG (still have to laugh at the name) through John Lewis. It's gone wrong once 3 years but frustratingly reset itself (it thought it had flooded itself)one hour before the engineer came out. He said "they all do that" whilst he had a cup of tea and a biscuit and serviced it free of charge.
Costco do extended warranties free of charge too if you need peace of mind.
It's a shame the Koreans aren't has heavily into dishwashers as they are at washing machines as I've got a 10 year old direct drive LG washing machine that hasn't gone wrong yet.
Mother had a 25 year old Hotpoint dishwasher that never needed anything but I guess they don't build them like they used to.
Costco do extended warranties free of charge too if you need peace of mind.
It's a shame the Koreans aren't has heavily into dishwashers as they are at washing machines as I've got a 10 year old direct drive LG washing machine that hasn't gone wrong yet.
Mother had a 25 year old Hotpoint dishwasher that never needed anything but I guess they don't build them like they used to.
Blue Oval84 said:
blueg33 said:
Our Bosch is identical to a NEFF model in every respect apart from the name! Same with our extractor.
They must have gone downhill since 2005 then, the ones at work are silent but not very solid at all. The drawers aren't a smooth action when moving which causes the plates to crash about, my NEFF is totally smooth, and if you pull the drawer too far it doesn't fall off it's runners unlike the Bosch.At the the time Bosch and NEFF did a built in dishwasher with extra capacity that sull fitted in a standard size cabinet. This is the one we have, it is much taller inside than normal and can take a full size NEFF grill pan and the cooker hood filter in the bottom with room to spare. It washes brilliantly even when fully loaded, you dont even have to use a rinse cycle as it seems to be able to take reasonable size particles. We only need to rinse the filter in the bottom once a month.
I must admit, I expected one or two replies at best to this thread but it seems that dishwashers are a contentious issue! 
Neff doesn't seem an option, since at least on the John Lewis site they are all integrated. I checked Costco stock out too, and it's pretty much all Whirlpool (and one make I'd never heard of).
Miele are just too expensive - particularly since I live alone and probably shouldn't even need a dishwasher in the first place!
I think the Siemens has won, and it's what I'm planning to order. I need to wait a week or so to order it though - my job situation is about to change rather drastically, but that does have the advantage that quite soon it will be easy for me to be at home for the delivery........
Neff doesn't seem an option, since at least on the John Lewis site they are all integrated. I checked Costco stock out too, and it's pretty much all Whirlpool (and one make I'd never heard of).
Miele are just too expensive - particularly since I live alone and probably shouldn't even need a dishwasher in the first place!
I think the Siemens has won, and it's what I'm planning to order. I need to wait a week or so to order it though - my job situation is about to change rather drastically, but that does have the advantage that quite soon it will be easy for me to be at home for the delivery........
You have of course forgotton the most important PH feature when it comes to dishwashers
Buy two - that way you never have to put stuff away, its like having self cleaining cupboards
Take clean dishes out of dw 1 use and place in dw 2, when dw 2 is full put it on (dw 1 is now empty)
take clean plates from dw 2 use and place in dw 1............etc
Buy two - that way you never have to put stuff away, its like having self cleaining cupboards
Take clean dishes out of dw 1 use and place in dw 2, when dw 2 is full put it on (dw 1 is now empty)
take clean plates from dw 2 use and place in dw 1............etc
davek_964 said:
I'm currently trying to resist ordering the Siemens SN26T597GB.
Mostly because of the shiny blue light and because it's stainless steel - which I can justify (slightly) because it's about 30% more energy efficient.
Weak arguments, and my sensible side is saying order the Bosch. Not sure which side will win yet!
Hi - how are you getting on with the Siemens SN26T597GB? just about to purchase one here...Mostly because of the shiny blue light and because it's stainless steel - which I can justify (slightly) because it's about 30% more energy efficient.
Weak arguments, and my sensible side is saying order the Bosch. Not sure which side will win yet!
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