ASTONFEST 2015

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V8LM

5,174 posts

209 months

Tuesday 29th July 2014
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downr said:
In my humble opinion, Aston Martin would be a bit foolish not to back Burghley 2, given the number of people coming away thinking "hmm, maybe I should swap my X in for a new Y"
On one hand, it'll be 10 years since they started selling the V8V. party

On the other, it'll be 10 years since they started selling the V8V. whistle



At least now He Who Shall Not Be Named is not longer in charge I suspect they will be far more receptive to being involved.

Ed50

2,574 posts

181 months

Tuesday 29th July 2014
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They will just point me or who ever straight at AMOC as they did this time.

They claim AMOC are there eventing side of the business,they told me they can't be seen to support one small event as it opens things up on a grand scale.

Can see there point but I wouldn't have told anyone if they'd got stuck in and joined the fun………….silly sods,

Is involving AMOC a good thing,my area did ok on their own with no support…………..:scratch chin:

We shall have to wait and see,you never know they might make contact………………call for Doris Stokes...biggrin

V8LM

5,174 posts

209 months

Tuesday 29th July 2014
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On seeing the huge success of this event things may be looked at differently. All the posts here saying that it is a mistake for a V8 owner to test drive a V12 is a sales and marketing opportunity not to be missed. Then there is Works.

A problem could be, and possibly is from the Company's perspective, is the involvement of specialists and independents.


ETA: (I believe) there is no tie (other than the odd agreement) between AML and AMOC; certainly not commercial in the sense suggested.


Edited by V8LM on Tuesday 29th July 23:40

downr

3,803 posts

128 months

Wednesday 30th July 2014
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Ed - the main thing, if there is to be official AMOC involvement, is to make sure that non-AMOC members can attend (and there may be some legality/insurance aspect to that, I dont know). Webby will know the answer if you PM him I'm sure

I would have thought that, to go for a record, Ed-Fest 2015 needs to a) avoid the Silverstone Classic weekend and b) get AMOC to advertise the event in the monthly - a lot of members don't look at the forum but do read the newsletter

thetees

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263 posts

142 months

Wednesday 30th July 2014
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I obviously have nothing better to do, so...


Ed50

2,574 posts

181 months

Wednesday 30th July 2014
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downr said:
Ed - the main thing, if there is to be official AMOC involvement, is to make sure that non-AMOC members can attend (and there may be some legality/insurance aspect to that, I dont know). Webby will know the answer if you PM him I'm sure

I would have thought that, to go for a record, Ed-Fest 2015 needs to a) avoid the Silverstone Classic weekend and b) get AMOC to advertise the event in the monthly - a lot of members don't look at the forum but do read the newsletter
Rob,

My concern with bringing in AMOC is it will take the event out of my hands,I'm quite capable of parking a few cars in a field and I wouldn't want to be a bit part player.

The commercial side of things is slightly different as I being a one man band did encounter difficulties in getting advertising, I'm sure we have people on the forums……..from
which ever channel that could offer some advice or assistance on that if I did go it alone.

I fear if I was prepared to expand on the effort put in on Burghley and with AMOC running it my initiative would be lost and with it the spirit of the event.

I think a lot of thought is needed after the dust settles and the adrenaline subsides, but I now know myself given the achievement of the first year and with all I have learnt I can personally do a lot better.

6/10 Can do better……….yes

StephenP

1,886 posts

210 months

Wednesday 30th July 2014
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downr said:
b) get AMOC to advertise the event in the monthly - a lot of members don't look at the forum but do read the newsletter
It was mentioned every month since October, albeit under our area report and in the email newsletter sent to members in Lincolnshire, Nottinghamshire, Derbyshire, Rutland and Leicestershire. I believe it also made it in to the main part of AM News at least once (but can't be sure) and was on the tri-fold events leaflet that was sent out to members at the beginning of the year ... winksmile

That said, I know we can do better with publicity to members for 2015 if it goes ahead. As such, I plan to make more of advertising it in AM News in future, as well as via area reps. I also believe a report in AM News in the couple of months, with pictures if anyone is willing to let me have them, should convince people of the size and appeal of the event.

Ed50 said:
My concern with bringing in AMOC is it will take the event out of my hands,I'm quite capable of parking a few cars in a field and I wouldn't want to be a bit part player.
I'm with Ed on this one. In my opinion this should always be Ed's event and not an AMOC one. AMOC should be present in a large way, but only as one of the stands. AMOC HQ believe this type of event should be in the hands of the individual areas so I guess the best option is for Area 3 to support it but with backup from HQ (publicity, material, etc).

With the benefit of hindsight and experiences from the weekend, I, on both a personal and AMOC Area 3 rep level, will be looking at ways to increase support of the event for next year....


Edited by StephenP on Wednesday 30th July 09:16

downr

3,803 posts

128 months

Wednesday 30th July 2014
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Ed

100% not suggesting you hand over control to AMOC, sorry if that's how it came across. It's your baby, so you should definitely run with it. The two points I was trying to make are:

1. With regard to your post on the AMOC forum yesterday, if you turn it into an official AMOC event then it might (and I stress might) cause some restrictions on who can go, which no-one surely wants. Which is an argument for not making it an AMOC event

2. Having said that, and based on the conversations we had over the weekend about the lack of AMOC involvement(Area 3 aside), it would be nice to have more of an official AMOC backing of both you and the event in 2015 even if its not classified as one of theirs. I don't read the AM news from cover to cover, but i don't recall the event being given any degree of real push by AMOC

If its of any use to you one of my close friends is a professional in the world of corporate sponsorship of motor sport events (Superbikes, done a lot of work in F1, with Aston Martin, friends with Dave Richards etc). I can ask him for any suggestions as to how to get more backing for you for next year, might be able to put you in touch etc. Entirely up to you

GaryU

34 posts

175 months

Wednesday 30th July 2014
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Agree with ED on this one......

The organisation was so good, why change it.
Why involve the AMOC head office beyond generating some publicity.
Its just another level of bureaucracy to deal with.

Also, some attendees may be put off coming to an official AMOC event,
whilst AMOC members (including myself) attend lots of non AMOC events.


downr

3,803 posts

128 months

Wednesday 30th July 2014
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Grrr. Before anyone else posts saying "i agree with Ed". Can you please just read my post in conjunction with Ed's on the AMOC thread yesterday where he said:

"If the interest is there and the club is interested I'm sure they know of its happening so if they contact me it would be a positive step in building a world record attempt on the second coming of Burghley."

Maybe I didn't put it as well as I could have done, but my post was merely raising the concern that if there is an official AMOC involvement that there then might be some restriction on attendees (and again I will stress 'might'). I was trying to be helpful as I was worried from Ed's AMOC post that that was the direction he was heading in. (Really you dont want it to be an official AMOC event, albeit their support in publicity would no doubt be helpful)

PS I agree with Ed smile



Edited by downr on Wednesday 30th July 10:02

LordBretSinclair

4,288 posts

177 months

Wednesday 30th July 2014
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downr said:
Ed

I don't read the AM news from cover to cover, but i don't recall the event being given any degree of real push by AMOC
If you had you would have seen that Area 20 had been pushing the event in their notes for some months.
A small select group of us make the trek up from Devon and Cornwall and would definitely do so again smile