997 diffrence between 4s & 4???
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hi, just about to get a 997 widebody , so i presummed the widebody were all 4S, but in classifieds i saw a 4 widebody ? not S on the back when you looked on rear of car? also it did not have quad tailpipes but longer slotted ones ? is this a proper model?
bit confused really as i want widebody for looks but did not relise you can get other models with wide body ?
any help would be great please ??
thanks Ian
bit confused really as i want widebody for looks but did not relise you can get other models with wide body ?
any help would be great please ??
thanks Ian
Adam B said:
4 are all wide body, by an extra 44mm IIRC
2 are not
S is more powerful and had some extra kit
S has round quad exhaust, non S has twin flat
Thats great, the add for 2s wide body must be a dud then ! The 4 seems a bit of a waste of time as been looking for a few months now & this is first one i have seen ? cant be many of them built ?2 are not
S is more powerful and had some extra kit
S has round quad exhaust, non S has twin flat
sounds like 4s for me...
thanks again
The C4 has a 3.6l engine and the C4S has the 3.8l. The C4S had a better spec but as others have said the C4 could be specced up too. One of these options is the PASM (active suspension) wasn't standard on the C4. It's worth having for the UK's potholed roads IMO. When you're looking at an ad, look at the bottom row of switches in front of the gear selector - these are the options. They all have the switch to raise and lower the spoiler, and to disable PSM. The other ones to look for are PASM (shock absorber symbol) and if you can PSE (twin exhaust pipe symbol). The Sport (chrono) is good too!
I think the C2 was a good idea because you could argue it was a pure 911 experience - 2Wd and no frills. I can't see that a C4 makes so much sense and might be hard to move on later, so definitely go for a C4S if you want the wide body and all-wheel drive.
They are heavier of course and less efficient but most of the time the power is going through the rear wheels anyway. It's not until situations like booting out of a wet roundabout that all-wheel drive makes the difference as the power goes to the front wheels and pulls you out!
HTH
I think the C2 was a good idea because you could argue it was a pure 911 experience - 2Wd and no frills. I can't see that a C4 makes so much sense and might be hard to move on later, so definitely go for a C4S if you want the wide body and all-wheel drive.
They are heavier of course and less efficient but most of the time the power is going through the rear wheels anyway. It's not until situations like booting out of a wet roundabout that all-wheel drive makes the difference as the power goes to the front wheels and pulls you out!
HTH
wilkos said:
alexisn said:
Having owned a 997.1 C2S and now a 997.2 C4S I find the 4 vastly superior. It doesn't bob, lurch, understeer and weave like the 2, it's much quicker and planted.
Most of that is the difference between a .1 and a.2, not 2wd to 4wd.Saying that I found the car to compliant and boring compared to my 996.
Nice article on 4s:
http://www.evo.co.uk/carreviews/evocarreviews/5784...
wilkos said:
alexisn said:
Having owned a 997.1 C2S and now a 997.2 C4S I find the 4 vastly superior. It doesn't bob, lurch, understeer and weave like the 2, it's much quicker and planted.
Most of that is the difference between a .1 and a.2, not 2wd to 4wd.Edited by alexisn on Friday 1st August 12:41
alexisn said:
the 997 is just too quiet, you really can get quite a shock glancing at the speedo as the 'wail' is not there.
Yeah, I've noticed that too. I also miss the 996 exhaust note, mine had a Manthey exhaust which sounded great at full chat. The 997 is a much better car overall though and I certainly wouldn't go back. But in hindsight I wish my 997 had the sports exhaust, but other than that it's awesome (997.2 C4S) alexisn said:
Having owned a 997.1 C2S and now a 997.2 C4S I find the 4 vastly superior. It doesn't bob, lurch, understeer and weave like the 2, it's much quicker and planted.
Made the same move and completely agree! The ride is also nicer.Worth noting the Gen 2 C4S had the better Turbo 4WD system, making it quicker on track than the C2S in the dry and of course easily quicker in the wet.
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