Errr we just had a close shave.....

Errr we just had a close shave.....

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ruggedscotty

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5,626 posts

209 months

Friday 1st August 2014
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If the recent news was anything to go by we had a huge lucky escape in 2012.

It would have been terrible indeed and something like this would probably resulted in more deaths than all the wars put together. Working in a data centre and critical comms environment I think it would have been pretty much life over as we know it.

I know how had it is to source a basic power transformer, so to try and replace thousands. To repair a grid that was burned out and to try and recover from this sort of event would have been a nightmare of epic proportions


http://www.express.co.uk/news/nature/494438/End-of...

Cliftonite

8,408 posts

138 months

Friday 1st August 2014
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If this was the worst we had to worry about :

". . . unable to fuel their cars at petrol stations, get money from cash dispensers or pay online."

I think we might have survived.

Just!

smile


BreakingBad

325 posts

117 months

Friday 1st August 2014
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....have you brought the picnic basket..? [/Rowan Atkinson]

Sportidge

1,032 posts

237 months

Friday 1st August 2014
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Oh dear,

Another apocalyptic "news" article written by Nathan Rao, the same "Harbinger of Woo and General bks" who warned us of 3 months of the worst snow for 60 years for Winter 2013, and also now telling us that a mega heatwave will hit us in August.

Suitably filed under "Meh"..... hehe

ewenm

28,506 posts

245 months

Friday 1st August 2014
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OMG!

grumbledoak

31,532 posts

233 months

Friday 1st August 2014
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Like most of the media's existential threats it will turn out this has happened twice a week for the last four billion years but we've only just noticed. But, we're bored of Ebola now and the presses need feeding...

Edited by grumbledoak on Friday 1st August 23:00

CrutyRammers

13,735 posts

198 months

Friday 1st August 2014
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Pah, they're late. This will be in response to the paper that was published a few days ago, reviewing a the large CME a couple of years back which fortunately missed us.
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/07/26/two_years_...

I suspect we are due one sometime in the next couple of centuries, and it probably will make a bit of a mess.

Reg said:
These days we are much more dependent on electronics that would be harmed by CMEs of this type. According to a study by the National Academy of Sciences, the total economic impact could exceed $2 trillion if a similar solar storm hit us today and the ensuing chaos would cost millions of lives as electrical grids failed.

Laurel Green

30,778 posts

232 months

Friday 1st August 2014
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It'll be OK as long as it happens at night.

Ari

19,347 posts

215 months

Friday 1st August 2014
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Cliftonite said:
If this was the worst we had to worry about :

". . . unable to fuel their cars at petrol stations, get money from cash dispensers or pay online."

I think we might have survived.

Just!

smile
You don't recall the way the general public reacted to the fuel blockades then..?

mybrainhurts

90,809 posts

255 months

Friday 1st August 2014
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Laurel Green said:
It'll be OK as long as it happens at night in France.
Obvious error fixed....

MikeOxlong

3,112 posts

189 months

Friday 1st August 2014
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Meh. I'd just shoot a all the crows in my garden with my air rifle and cook them over the fire until the playstation worked again. And I wouldn't have to go to work. Mint.

Some Gump

12,689 posts

186 months

Friday 1st August 2014
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Now i admit i just skim read that, but is their source "mr dale, currently writing a ohd at bristol"?

So, a student.
At an average uni.

Gospel, The Express. Gospel.

Moonhawk

10,730 posts

219 months

Friday 1st August 2014
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Love the headline "Killer solar superstorm could destroy Earth "

Then the article goes on to say

"Scientists warn communication systems will be crippled, vital services such as transport, sanitation and medicine will close, and loss of power will plunge the planet into darkness."

So.........not destroy Earth then. It may have a detrimental effect on human technology - but it sounds like 'earth' would be just fine.

It's the same doom and gloom language used in the climate debate - "we are destroying the planet"...........no we arent - we may be making it a little less habitable for us and a few other species - but i'm sure the planet will be fine and will carry on quite happily once we are dead and buried.

If earth can survive the late heavy bombardment and being hit by an object large enough to create the moon from the debris - i'm sure a few Aston martin V8s and the odd solar storm are nothing to worry about (from the earth's perspective).


ruggedscotty

Original Poster:

5,626 posts

209 months

Friday 1st August 2014
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http://www.nhregister.com/science/20140727/nasa-ea...

Okay then this average student dent picked up else where - NASA no less......

TheEnd

15,370 posts

188 months

Friday 1st August 2014
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They always say this, and nothing ever happens, apart from maybe a powerline stops working in Montana, and a guy in Greenland's fridge breaks down.

ILoveMondeo

9,614 posts

226 months

Saturday 2nd August 2014
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Aren't we in the middle of a remarkably unremarkable solar maximum right now?

10 year - ish cycle between minimum and maximum activity on the sun god?

And the slew of mass coronal ejections never really got going?

Not going to lose much sleep whilst we've still got a massive blob of molten iron doing it's business at the planet core.

Seems to have worked ok for the last few million years.


Eric Mc

122,010 posts

265 months

Saturday 2nd August 2014
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Ari said:
You don't recall the way the general public reacted to the fuel blockades then..?
What long queues?

If anybody can cope with that, it's the Brits.

Puggit

48,439 posts

248 months

Saturday 2nd August 2014
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Typical Nathan Rao, gets a whiff of some science and writes an unbelievably stupid article about it.

However I do agree that higher taxation based on this specific threat, but that goes in to the general pot, can only be a good thing and will help to prevent such a solar storm smile

Hoofy

76,352 posts

282 months

Saturday 2nd August 2014
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I can still use Facebook, though, right?

rhinochopig

17,932 posts

198 months

Saturday 2nd August 2014
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Rather than bash the author perhaps do your own research. CME's are a very real hazard and in theory can cause major infrastructure damage.

We had a biggie in 1989 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/March_1989_geomagneti...

And the biggest to date - the Carrington Event - would have made a real mess of modern electrical systems http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar_storm_of_1859

"Telegraph systems all over Europe and North America failed, in some cases giving telegraph operators electric shocks.[7] Telegraph pylons threw sparks.[8] Some telegraph systems continued to send and receive messages despite having been disconnected from their power supplies.[9]"