Boxster S ; Top gear.

Boxster S ; Top gear.

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percyporsche

Original Poster:

290 posts

257 months

Monday 13th December 2004
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The Stig took the new S around the track. I expect most of you saw it. What was the exact time ? It was 1.28 something ? How does this compare with the other porkers that have been around ?

Don

28,377 posts

285 months

Monday 13th December 2004
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IIRC about 128.4 (ish)

From the Top Gear web site:

2nd Porsche Carerra GT - 1.19.8
5th Porsche GT3 RS - 1.22.3
...
Porsche 911 GT3 - 1.27.2
Porsche 911 Carrera S - 1.28.9 (very wet)
Porsche 911 turbo - 1.31.0


And you have to remember how nasty the weather's been...the Boxster S was no less than stunning considering the bhp advantage of all the above cars.

Quite remarkable. But no less than I've been saying since getting my first one!

johnp68

425 posts

283 months

Monday 13th December 2004
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Damn, missed it! Was it this week's episode? Any idea if it's repeated?

rods

1,798 posts

254 months

Monday 13th December 2004
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johnp68 said:
Damn, missed it! Was it this week's episode? Any idea if it's repeated?

Tonite 11.20 BBC2

Hammerhead

2,701 posts

255 months

Monday 13th December 2004
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Yup, stonking performance from the Boxster as one would expect. That new SLK looked a right load of pony on the track in comparison.

Steve

steve-p

1,448 posts

283 months

Tuesday 14th December 2004
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Hammerhead said:
Yup, stonking performance from the Boxster as one would expect. That new SLK looked a right load of pony on the track in comparison.

Steve


The one with relatively tall tyres and not even the optional sports suspension? That was a fair comparison, then

johnny senna

4,046 posts

273 months

Tuesday 14th December 2004
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steve-p said:

Hammerhead said:
Yup, stonking performance from the Boxster as one would expect. That new SLK looked a right load of pony on the track in comparison.

Steve



The one with relatively tall tyres and not even the optional sports suspension? That was a fair comparison, then


That doesn't matter, the Boxster absolutely stuffed the SLK around the track and the margin was huge. Slightly different suspension and tyres would not have saved the Merc's blushes.

GreigM

6,733 posts

250 months

Tuesday 14th December 2004
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Its strange the lap times only mention the 997 being in the wet, while I know the GT3 time was also in the wet.

I'd like to see these times re-done with the same driver (the new stig seems significantly quicker) and all done in the dry.

Marki

15,763 posts

271 months

Tuesday 14th December 2004
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Crikey that is a splendid performance comparing it against the opposition

steve-p

1,448 posts

283 months

Tuesday 14th December 2004
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johnny senna said:

That doesn't matter, the Boxster absolutely stuffed the SLK around the track and the margin was huge. Slightly different suspension and tyres would not have saved the Merc's blushes.


It would not have been as quick as the Boxster, no doubt about that, but the fact is the standard car is softly sprung and that combined with the short wheelbase makes it a handful on the limit. All I'm saying is, if it had had sports suspension and lower profile rubber, it would have been a much more representative test. Even with soft springs, it was still only 1 second slower than a BMW M3, 0.4 sec slower than the Esprit V8, etc. So it's not that bad. Just not as quick as the Boxster S, which frankly seemed too quick for just 280bhp to be realistically true anyway, compared to other more credible performance cars, including various other Porsches. I guess there's no way of knowing if there were only the appropriate number of horses or not, but it wouldn't be the first time that a more powerful demonstrator had been supplied to the media. TVR used to do it all the time.

kamal996

4,226 posts

245 months

Tuesday 14th December 2004
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I bet the SLK was an auto! In which case it could never be a fair comparison. Saying that-I would take the Boxster all day long-the merc looks awful from the front and seems overpriced by about £10k becuase of its diminutive size and odd back-up stance.

Don

28,377 posts

285 months

Tuesday 14th December 2004
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steve-p said:

It would not have been as quick as the Boxster, no doubt about that, but the fact is the standard car is softly sprung and that combined with the short wheelbase makes it a handful on the limit. All I'm saying is, if it had had sports suspension and lower profile rubber, it would have been a much more representative test. Even with soft springs, it was still only 1 second slower than a BMW M3, 0.4 sec slower than the Esprit V8, etc. So it's not that bad. Just not as quick as the Boxster S, which frankly seemed too quick for just 280bhp to be realistically true anyway, compared to other more credible performance cars, including various other Porsches. I guess there's no way of knowing if there were only the appropriate number of horses or not, but it wouldn't be the first time that a more powerful demonstrator had been supplied to the media. TVR used to do it all the time.


Come on. It was a credible comparison. Same weather. Same driver. Both cars in standard form as shipped by the manufacturer (conspiracy theories aside) and the new BoxS whooped the Merc's ass.

Simple as that. You don't need "optional sports suspension" in a BoxS

As to comparisons with other Porsches/other TG performance cars clearly they aren't fair as the weather difference has a huge impact...its just a bit of amusement.

As I said on the other thread at a piss-wet Silverstone I was overtaking pretty much everything including Turbos. But the acceleration of Daz'z 996 Turbo makes my BoxS look positively pedestrian. On a dry day 996s (of *any* sort) pass me on the Hangar Straight.

Hammerhead

2,701 posts

255 months

Tuesday 14th December 2004
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Paaaaaand of sour grapes, SteveP?



johnny senna

4,046 posts

273 months

Tuesday 14th December 2004
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Hammerhead said:
Paaaaaand of sour grapes, SteveP?







LMAO

steve-p

1,448 posts

283 months

Tuesday 14th December 2004
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Hammerhead said:
Paaaaaand of sour grapes, SteveP?





Frankly I couldn't give a flying fk what the base model does. What's your point? Mine will have 360bhp, AMG suspension and much wider tyres. The best thing about the SLK55 or a TVR or a Maser or anything else is that it is not a Boxster. I doubt that is a common opinion here, but I won't lose any sleep over it. You can think what you like.

ninemeister

1,146 posts

259 months

Tuesday 14th December 2004
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We will.

Don

28,377 posts

285 months

Tuesday 14th December 2004
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steve-p said:

Hammerhead said:
Paaaaaand of sour grapes, SteveP?



Frankly I couldn't give a flying fk what the base model does. What's your point? Mine will have 360bhp, AMG suspension and much wider tyres. The best thing about the SLK55 or a TVR or a Maser or anything else is that it is not a Boxster. I doubt that is a common opinion here, but I won't lose any sleep over it. You can think what you like.



Come on Steve-p, don't rise to it. Its easy teasing with a result like that. I'm sure that the AMG machine of yours will be extremely quick...

Don

28,377 posts

285 months

Tuesday 14th December 2004
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DustyC said:
AMG?

Well then perhaps it should be compared to the newer version of this when it happens


First post in nearly a month!


I've considered having some "upgrades" along those lines myself....but not just yet.

diver944

1,843 posts

277 months

Tuesday 14th December 2004
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Don said:

...
Porsche 911 GT3 - 1.27.2
Porsche 911 Carrera S - 1.28.9 (very wet)
Porsche 911 turbo - 1.31.0


..... and don't forget last weeks clapped out 20 year old 944 Lux at 1:35

Don

28,377 posts

285 months

Tuesday 14th December 2004
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Mind you. Has the Box's image changed at all...




Its not libel if its true...



Edited to credit the ever hilarious Sniff Petrol www.sniffpetrol.com

>> Edited by Don on Tuesday 14th December 14:31