Cerbera aftermarket gauges

Cerbera aftermarket gauges

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thefrog

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341 posts

218 months

Saturday 9th August 2014
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Hi, the Cerbera I bought recently has an oil / water temp gauge (spa digital one) fitted where the air vent normally is under the steering wheel.
The air hose and vent are now tucked under the steering and still work, but I'd like to put it back in its original place and move the gauge which I'd also like to retain.

The obvious place for me is the clock, I don't need it, however the TVR clock is 51mm in diameter, not 52 as per standard gauges. So.

-has anyone managed this before ? If so how ?
-if not, I could have the bezel behind the gauge enlarged to 52mm by a machine shop, but the aluminium panel that holds gauges, vent, start and stop buttons appears to also be too narrow.
-how does the panel come off ? Is the leather glued to it, preventing any machining ?

Many questions, hope you can help.

Thanks in advance
Greg

Flashheart

578 posts

241 months

Sunday 10th August 2014
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I have managed to convince my missus that 4" = 8" so why are you worrying over 1mm ;-)

I appreciate that this is absolutely no help whatsoever!

pmessling

2,284 posts

202 months

Sunday 10th August 2014
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The SPA gauge should fit. I have the SPA gauge where the original water temp oil pressure is.

If it is a tight fit a use a file or emery paper it's not a lot to take off.

Also have removed clock for an oil temp gauge which is 52mm.

longbow

1,610 posts

234 months

Sunday 10th August 2014
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thefrog said:
-has anyone managed this before ? If so how ?
-if not, I could have the bezel behind the gauge enlarged to 52mm by a machine shop, but the aluminium panel that holds gauges, vent, start and stop buttons appears to also be too narrow.
-how does the panel come off ? Is the leather glued to it, preventing any machining ?
Yes, it's simple and you don't need to modify the housing plate for a 52mm gauge. From memory the wheel needs to come off to acces 2x large screws which fix the plate into a mounting frame which is attached to the steering rack. If your gauges are electric then it will be simple, however if it uses a capillary tube then re-routing that will be a pain.

thefrog

Original Poster:

341 posts

218 months

Sunday 10th August 2014
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Thanks for the responses Longbow and pmessling. So all I'd need to do is enlarge the bezel between the gauge and plate.
The gauge is electric, so relocation is easy.


Flashheart said:
I have managed to convince my missus that 4" = 8" so why are you worrying over 1mm ;-)

I appreciate that this is absolutely no help whatsoever!
Brightened my day so helpful in a way smile

longbow

1,610 posts

234 months

Sunday 10th August 2014
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thefrog said:
So all I'd need to do is enlarge the bezel between the gauge and plate.
Yes, or just buy an aftermarket 52mm bezel!

thefrog

Original Poster:

341 posts

218 months

Sunday 10th August 2014
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Having failed to find a suitable bezel/spacer online, I decided to have a go at widening the standard one, out came emery paper... no luck... To be fair if was 240 grade biggrin so out came the Drexel and a suitable attachment, and after several grinds and checks for size, the spacer now accepts a 52mm gauge - Yippee. I haven't tackled the aluminium plate behind the steering wheel yet.

However, what looked to be an easy and cheap job has ultimately turned expensive ! In trying the gauge for size, I got it stuck in the spacer, too much pushing on its back to free it up has resulted in a cracked LCD display (black smudge). So lesson learnt and hopefully a useful warning for anybody else attempting it.

Will call spa-design tomorrow to see if I can have the gauge without sensors, fingers crossed.

pmessling

2,284 posts

202 months

Sunday 10th August 2014
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Yeah you can get just the gauge. I had to last month after mine was giving false pressure readings. Was about £80 for just the gauge I think.

thefrog

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341 posts

218 months

Sunday 10th August 2014
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That's good news smile did you get it direct from spa design or another supplier ?

pmessling

2,284 posts

202 months

Sunday 10th August 2014
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From SPA. Give them a ring as they don't list just the gauge on there spares page.

thefrog

Original Poster:

341 posts

218 months

Monday 11th August 2014
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pmessling said:
From SPA. Give them a ring as they don't list just the gauge on there spares page.
Thanks, better still, they can repair mine for £35 + VAT, so it's in the post biggrin

julian64

14,317 posts

253 months

Monday 11th August 2014
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any photos as I'm wondering what to do about a busted temp/oil gauge.

Is the spa one inkeeping?

thefrog

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341 posts

218 months

Monday 11th August 2014
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Will do, however while the gauge is off to be repaired, all I have is a hole in the pod.

As for in keeping, my TVR gauges are purple with a brushed aluminium bezel, SPA do white/black background with black or chrome bezel (any combination), so I'm sticking to black/black with mine so it matches the air vent. Not sure introducing another colour (chrome) would help since it wouldn't quite match the brushed aluminium.

I may replace the fuel gauge with a spa dual gauge too so the lower pod is all black and consistent, but not sure what else I'd need to go with fuel level.

thefrog

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341 posts

218 months

Monday 11th August 2014
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This may give you an idea, works well if your standard gauges are white.


Shamelessly pinched from another thread on PH.

julian64

14,317 posts

253 months

Monday 11th August 2014
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okay thanks.

I thought for a minute you were the answer to my dreams, and that I didn't have to send my daft water temp gauge off for repair to a company that I know is going to take the next six months.

But unfortunately I couldn't live with the gauges in your photo.

pmessling

2,284 posts

202 months

Monday 11th August 2014
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julian64 said:
okay thanks.

I thought for a minute you were the answer to my dreams, and that I didn't have to send my daft water temp gauge off for repair to a company that I know is going to take the next six months.

But unfortunately I couldn't live with the gauges in your photo.
i think that three of them is a bit much, i have just the single dual digital gauge replacing the original dual gauge and it looks nice, although having recently replaced mine its black. but did send it to speedy for the bezel to be changed to match the originals.


thefrog

Original Poster:

341 posts

218 months

Monday 11th August 2014
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pmessling said:
i have just the single dual digital gauge replacing the original dual gauge and it looks nice, although having recently replaced mine its black. but did send it to speedy for the bezel to be changed to match the originals.
Is that oil pressure and water temp ? Personally, I like the idea of having the additional benefit of oil temp (and digital water temp) which what I will replacing the clock with.

Interesting to know speedy can change the bezel, would you know by any chance if they can also change the face of the gauge ? If I could have one in purple, matching mine and a brushed aluminium bezel biggrin that would make the digital gauge blend in better overall.

julian64

14,317 posts

253 months

Monday 11th August 2014
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It would be very nice to have both the water and oil as electrical rather than the daft capillary cable of the water.

I just cant find a double analogue gauge. The bezel of course is swaged on. I gently encouraged mine to come off in a way that can be failry easly replaced, and thought I might be able to find a gauge I could nick the insides from, but can't find anyone that does them.

pmessling

2,284 posts

202 months

Monday 11th August 2014
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yes water temp and oil pressure. I do have a oil temp gauge where the clock was, which was a speedy cable ordered one which has the tvr one it to look standard.

morebeanz

3,283 posts

235 months

Tuesday 12th August 2014
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Speedy now do custom guages in the original style. You can go on-line and customise the details, and I think that include electical senders...