Distributor 2.9 V6

Distributor 2.9 V6

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phillpot

17,116 posts

183 months

Sunday 5th October 2014
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Sandgrounder said:
Checked terminals on pump with ignition On, NO voltage.
Not 100% on this but doesn't the ECU cut the feed to the pump once it has primed and only re-instate once engine has started?


So you cannot test for supply by leaving ignition "on" ?


Some good advice already given, live and earth direct from battery will prove if pump is ok.

connectors where wires come out of bodywork in rear wheel arch "prime suspect".


Good luck smile

mep12345

2,061 posts

201 months

Sunday 5th October 2014
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Mike, I think you are right and that's the switching pulse with the main feed from ignition so ignition on should give live at the relay, not got my wiring diagrams available but shouldn't be too difficult to d cipher from the ones in the bible

Sandgrounder

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563 posts

144 months

Monday 6th October 2014
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Mark/Mike, thanks for the guidance.

Sounds quite logical when you break it down into lengths of wire!

Anyway, I'll give it another go on Saturday to see if I can determine where in the circuit is dodgy.

Watch this space.... ;-)

Sandgrounder

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563 posts

144 months

Saturday 24th January 2015
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Long time no speak S owners. Finally found the enthusiasm to have a look at the S3 having SORN'd it for the first time ever after the tax ran out in Nov.
I have invested in a new (good quality) soldering iron, crocodile clips, fly leads, and even took the Bible wiring diagrams to work to blow them up (as my eyesight is getting old!). But before I began my electrical investigation, I thought I would just try one more wiggle teat (sure I did this months ago).
Grabbed the harness near to offside rocker, then coil wiring, then removed and installed the connector on the (I think it's the) temp sensor at rear of the plenum. Switched the ignition on, and hey presto, fuel pump priming noise!!!
A few coughs and splutters after 4 months untouched and IT LIVES!!!!
I was so happy that it was running, I just let it warm up, and charge the battery, which was near to flat.
Tomorrow, I will see if I can cause it to fail by wiggling the wiring as I really need to confirm the actual problem.
Only downer was that I noticed a leak from rad, once fully hot, but that sort of repair is within my comfort zone, so not concerned. Plenty of time before spring to get that looked at.
I guess I can start putting all of the wiring in passenger footwell back together now, as I have removed all cable ties, etc. etc.
So happy, it's like finding a long lost friend.

phillpot

17,116 posts

183 months

Saturday 24th January 2015
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Result ! thumbup

NaCl

286 posts

178 months

Saturday 24th January 2015
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Sandgrounder said:
Only downer was that I noticed a leak from rad, once fully hot, but that sort of repair is within my comfort zone, so not concerned.
Mine's got a leak too. Well, two leaks...one each side very near the bottom. Have you an easy fix you could recommend, or is it in your comfort zone because you are particularly good at curing leaking rads that mere mortals would shy away from?

I'm not too gripped at the idea of using radweld or a similar product. I have always worried sbout blocking some essential small water passage up. I was comptemplating trying to lead solder any holes, cracks or splits myself, but am not too confident at getting it right. I suspect I shall end up shelling out a couple of hundred quid for a recore.

Any advice would be much appreciated.

Sandgrounder

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563 posts

144 months

Sunday 25th January 2015
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"Within my comfort zone" as I am confident I can remove the rad, whereas with the wiring issue, I had no idea what to do, hence the loom in the cockpit is currently all over the place.

I may try one of those radweld type solutions (I am confident they can't do damage or there would be numerous law suits), but it seemed quite a nasty leak so may be beyond a simple fix.

If it has to be replaced/re-conditioned, so be it. Spending money on my favourite Toy is just accepted as normal now by my wife!

mk1fan

10,517 posts

225 months

Sunday 25th January 2015
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Recore or replace the rad. Adding stuff to the fluid is not something I'd do.

Sandgrounder

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563 posts

144 months

Sunday 25th January 2015
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Problem identified. Turned out to be the earth wire to rocker cover bolt. Corrosion/sealant under bolt head, so quick clean up with emery cloth and all sorted.
It's been a learning experience!!

phillpot

17,116 posts

183 months

Sunday 25th January 2015
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That's a rubbish place to put an earth lead, rocker cover bolts don't tighten down enough to get a good connection. Should go to a thread in the inlet manifold near the fuel pressure regulator.





Radiators are a relatively easy fix if it is just the hose connection neck or the end "header" tank to main body seam but if your leak is somewhere in the main matrix that could be a bit more tricky, imho wink


Wynns Stop Leak is doing the trick for now in my BMW Mini, alloy/plastic rad, and if/when it does give up replacement rads are cheap as chips!

Edited by phillpot on Sunday 25th January 16:22

Sandgrounder

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563 posts

144 months

Sunday 25th January 2015
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Good point Mike, though in fairness to my mechanic, he had put the earth lead back to where it was originally.

I'll see if my S3 has a similar location to the photo next weekend.

Thanks

White S3

170 posts

136 months

Monday 26th January 2015
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Aaagh, its the blessed injector black earth wire again! I had the same issue (post 25 Jun 2013 - 2.9 EFi won't start) and it took me weeks to resolve it. Concur with Phillpot's last post, bolt it to something solid and shiny to get good contact.
MRV

Edited by White S3 on Monday 26th January 20:37