Dangerous mechanic

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BrettMRC

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4,059 posts

160 months

Monday 11th August 2014
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Does VOSA have any interest /influence over a garage?

A recent purchase had had its fuel pumps replaced. Had a look at it myself to find the tank had been left unsealed and the garage had tried to bodge the whole thing together from RTV.

Diesel was flowing out of the tank top when more than 2/3rds full and making the rear end somewhat wayward.

It was a private sale, I believe the seller has been taken for a ride by this 'garage' for years.

So, is there anything I can do to get an authority of some kind engaged in inspecting their work?

Thanks!

TooMany2cvs

29,008 posts

126 months

Monday 11th August 2014
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BrettMRC said:
Does VOSA have any interest /influence over a garage?
No, just MOT as far as cars are concerned.

BrettMRC said:
So, is there anything I can do to get an authority of some kind engaged in inspecting their work?
If they're a member of any trade body, then that might be a direction - but most are just paid-for advertising schemes.
If you were the customer, then trading standards.
Otherwise? No.

Edited by TooMany2cvs on Tuesday 12th August 09:13

Dwight VanDriver

6,583 posts

244 months

Tuesday 12th August 2014
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SMMT ?

dvd

kev b

2,714 posts

166 months

Tuesday 12th August 2014
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Are you sure this was done at that garage?

Often when a car is going to be offloaded the owner will bodge a job to save money, otoh, if you have a receipt for the work then take it back there and see what they say.

They'll probably tell you to go away though.

BrettMRC

Original Poster:

4,059 posts

160 months

Tuesday 12th August 2014
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Update: Had a chat with the garage in question this morning. The owner was pretty shocked - has promised to find out who had been working on the car.

Might be B/S - but I'll wait and see...

hunton69

661 posts

137 months

Tuesday 12th August 2014
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VOSA don't give a dam untill there is an accident and someone dies

Motorhomes and caravans tyres blow out after around 7 years as they sit around for most of there life.

VOSA know theres problem and do nothing about making MOT's change the tyres.

My 7 ton RV bought from new had 10 year old tyres on when I took it to France last year the first tyre (front nearside) blew while parked up in a super market car park (10 mins after stopping) It worried me so called a RV dealer in England who told me they should of been replaced after 6 years due to this info I drove very slowly to a camp site approx 8 miles later inside rear blew. Stranded in a village outside a very friendly French guys house for 5 days waiting for new tyres.
I made many emails to the powers that be in this country and there aware of the problem but will do nothing about it.

If I had been travelling at 50 ish on an single carriage goes knows what would of happened when the front blew.

Vaud

50,412 posts

155 months

Wednesday 13th August 2014
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hunton69 said:
VOSA don't give a dam untill there is an accident and someone dies

Motorhomes and caravans tyres blow out after around 7 years as they sit around for most of there life.

VOSA know theres problem and do nothing about making MOT's change the tyres.

My 7 ton RV bought from new had 10 year old tyres on when I took it to France last year the first tyre (front nearside) blew while parked up in a super market car park (10 mins after stopping) It worried me so called a RV dealer in England who told me they should of been replaced after 6 years due to this info I drove very slowly to a camp site approx 8 miles later inside rear blew. Stranded in a village outside a very friendly French guys house for 5 days waiting for new tyres.
I made many emails to the powers that be in this country and there aware of the problem but will do nothing about it.

If I had been travelling at 50 ish on an single carriage goes knows what would of happened when the front blew.
I've never seen guidance that tyres should be changed after 4 years?

anonymous-user

54 months

Wednesday 13th August 2014
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hunton69 said:
VOSA don't give a dam until there is an accident and someone dies
i think it is up to the owner rather than VOSA to keep a vesicle road worthy.

Why should vosa know all details about everything, they wont know it something is standing or moving etc and shouldn't need to.

Maybe more education for owners but the onus should always be on the owner to keep a roadworthy vehicle not VOSA to police tyre lifes.

AngryPartsBloke

1,436 posts

151 months

Wednesday 13th August 2014
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Vaud said:
hunton69 said:
VOSA don't give a dam untill there is an accident and someone dies

Motorhomes and caravans tyres blow out after around 7 years as they sit around for most of there life.

VOSA know theres problem and do nothing about making MOT's change the tyres.

My 7 ton RV bought from new had 10 year old tyres on when I took it to France last year the first tyre (front nearside) blew while parked up in a super market car park (10 mins after stopping) It worried me so called a RV dealer in England who told me they should of been replaced after 6 years due to this info I drove very slowly to a camp site approx 8 miles later inside rear blew. Stranded in a village outside a very friendly French guys house for 5 days waiting for new tyres.
I made many emails to the powers that be in this country and there aware of the problem but will do nothing about it.

If I had been travelling at 50 ish on an single carriage goes knows what would of happened when the front blew.
I've never seen guidance that tyres should be changed after 4 years?
I think that's his point?

herewego

8,814 posts

213 months

Wednesday 13th August 2014
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hunton69 said:
VOSA don't give a dam untill there is an accident and someone dies

Motorhomes and caravans tyres blow out after around 7 years as they sit around for most of there life.

VOSA know theres problem and do nothing about making MOT's change the tyres.

My 7 ton RV bought from new had 10 year old tyres on when I took it to France last year the first tyre (front nearside) blew while parked up in a super market car park (10 mins after stopping) It worried me so called a RV dealer in England who told me they should of been replaced after 6 years due to this info I drove very slowly to a camp site approx 8 miles later inside rear blew. Stranded in a village outside a very friendly French guys house for 5 days waiting for new tyres.
I made many emails to the powers that be in this country and there aware of the problem but will do nothing about it.

If I had been travelling at 50 ish on an single carriage goes knows what would of happened when the front blew.
What normally happens is that you pull over in a suitable location and change the wheel. It's not usual to crash and burn in this situation although very rarely it can happen.

Tony V8

54 posts

120 months

Wednesday 13th August 2014
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herewego said:
hunton69 said:
VOSA don't give a dam untill there is an accident and someone dies

Motorhomes and caravans tyres blow out after around 7 years as they sit around for most of there life.

VOSA know theres problem and do nothing about making MOT's change the tyres.

My 7 ton RV bought from new had 10 year old tyres on when I took it to France last year the first tyre (front nearside) blew while parked up in a super market car park (10 mins after stopping) It worried me so called a RV dealer in England who told me they should of been replaced after 6 years due to this info I drove very slowly to a camp site approx 8 miles later inside rear blew. Stranded in a village outside a very friendly French guys house for 5 days waiting for new tyres.
I made many emails to the powers that be in this country and there aware of the problem but will do nothing about it.

If I had been travelling at 50 ish on an single carriage goes knows what would of happened when the front blew.
What normally happens is that you pull over in a suitable location and change the wheel. It's not usual to crash and burn in this situation although very rarely it can happen.
happened to me loads of times in 7.5t, as yet not crashed as result of blowout of any tyre, yet!

hunton69

661 posts

137 months

Wednesday 13th August 2014
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herewego said:
What normally happens is that you pull over in a suitable location and change the wheel. It's not usual to crash and burn in this situation although very rarely it can happen.
I take it you have never driven a RV. They don't handle like a car or coach of truck. Suspension is a soft as Sh-t

A couple of years ago a coach crashed because of a tyre (Tyre over 10 years old) blowing out and a passengers died.

hunton69

661 posts

137 months

Wednesday 13th August 2014
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hunton69

661 posts

137 months

Wednesday 13th August 2014
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Both tyres ended up like this.

All tyres have dates on, these tyres will blow after approx 7 years if these vehilces spend most of there life stationary.

I now know expensive lesson for me as I replace all 6 and spent 5 days outside a French man's house.

I had the vehicle MOT just before the Holiday and asked the MOT station to check the tyres they looked fine as the vehicle had only done 18,000 miles

Many say that it's the sun light I'm not sure as both mine blew on the inside on hot days.


Edited by hunton69 on Wednesday 13th August 21:17

Mound Dawg

1,915 posts

174 months

Wednesday 13th August 2014
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hunton69 said:
VOSA don't give a dam untill there is an accident and someone dies

Motorhomes and caravans tyres blow out after around 7 years as they sit around for most of there life.

VOSA know theres problem and do nothing about making MOT's change the tyres.

My 7 ton RV bought from new had 10 year old tyres on when I took it to France last year the first tyre (front nearside) blew while parked up in a super market car park (10 mins after stopping) It worried me so called a RV dealer in England who told me they should of been replaced after 6 years due to this info I drove very slowly to a camp site approx 8 miles later inside rear blew. Stranded in a village outside a very friendly French guys house for 5 days waiting for new tyres.
I made many emails to the powers that be in this country and there aware of the problem but will do nothing about it.

If I had been travelling at 50 ish on an single carriage goes knows what would of happened when the front blew.
So, let me get this straight.

You bought a new RV and kept the same tyres on it for ten years.

You drove it to France and two of them blew out either through-

Sheer old age

Because YOU left the RV stood in the same position for months on end thus flat spotting these ancient relics

Because YOU didn't check the condition of the tyres before you left

Somehow this is the Gummints fault because THEY didn't make you replace the tyres at a fixed interval

That sound right?

hunton69

661 posts

137 months

Wednesday 13th August 2014
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Mound Dawg said:
So, let me get this straight.

You bought a new RV and kept the same tyres on it for ten years.

You drove it to France and two of them blew out either through-

Sheer old age

Because YOU left the RV stood in the same position for months on end thus flat spotting these ancient relics

Because YOU didn't check the condition of the tyres before you left

Somehow this is the Gummints fault because THEY didn't make you replace the tyres at a fixed interval

That sound right?
They wern't flat spotted and the MOT station inspected the tyres before I left. I believed that they knew more than me. ( I was wrong) They had MOT'd this vehicle for me for the last 7 years.

They did not blow untill We reached Macon which is 500 miles from where I live.

hunton69

661 posts

137 months

Wednesday 13th August 2014
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During the summer months check out motorhomes and caravans with blown tyres on the side of the road most are there for this very reason because most motorhomes and caravans do very little mileage and the tyres look great.
Yes I now know but not many MOT centres know about this problem.

Also many vehilces have a spare tyre that may not be used for many years and then may be used.

How simple is it to add to the MOT


Mound Dawg

1,915 posts

174 months

Wednesday 13th August 2014
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I wouldn't drive on ten year old tyres, MOTd or not. Good advice is easy to find.

http://www.theaa.com/motoring_advice/safety/tyre-l...

Roo

11,503 posts

207 months

Wednesday 13th August 2014
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hunton69 said:
They wern't flat spotted and the MOT station inspected the tyres before I left. I believed that they knew more than me. ( I was wrong) They had MOT'd this vehicle for me for the last 7 years.

They did not blow untill We reached Macon which is 500 miles from where I live.
But they're only interested in whether or not they're legal.

hunton69

661 posts

137 months

Wednesday 13th August 2014
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Neither would I now.

Have you ever been in a ten year old car, coach or may be a cab that the driver has never untill recently used the spare or that car has only done say 20,000 miles so running original tyres.
You may never know.

It's not that simple.