World of Tanks (Vol 2)
Discussion
So, I decided to treat myself to a little bit of gold, as it is Friday after all, so I picked up the SU-122-44.
First impressions of the tank; what a death dealer. Ok, it's not without it's downsides, the armour is s
t, the 330m view range isn't incredible and the gun traverse arc is narrow. The aim speed is slow, and firing fully aimed does illicit the occasional "act of god" miss. On the plus side, this TD exemplifies what TDs were - a simple and cheap way of bringing the most powerful gun possible to the fight. The 122mm has an average 2.9 second aim time, and the standard accuracy of 0.4m, but I swear the reticle is tight on this thing, it feels pretty accurate. When those big rounds land, they don't half cause some panic, as 2925dpm from an unseen opponent in a tier 7 game seems to cause. The penetration seems really good too, when those rounds hit, they hit hard.
So, after dropping my Russian TD crew in for a few battles, I've 100%'d them and they're ready to learn skills and perks. What do you guys recommend? I usually go for sixth sense first, but with these soft skinned TDs I find that not being seen in the first place is better than taking evasive action having already been spotted, and as such I've chosen camouflage as the first skill on this crew - thoughts? I'm thinking with a camo net and camo paint, this thing will be pretty hard to detect. After this, I think I'll follow with recon or situational awareness, then possibly 6th sense, BIA and snap shot. Is it true that snap shot decreases aim ring bloom while traversing a TD gun across it's arc?
I'm also undecided as to whether I'm going to put a gun rammer or laying drive on this thing. I think a laying drive will be better as it will maximise the my chance of fulfilling DPM potential by giving me less misses, or at least giving me a better success rate on clutch shots. The rammer is tempting, but I think it's probably a waste if I spend more time moving and aiming between shots than I do waiting for a reload.
I've also got 5840 gold left over now, so I will probably hold onto that for a while. I may see what cheap specials come out next month, or keep it banked for a Dicker Max as a crew trainer to prep a crew for the Jagdpanther II, which is currently sitting with a poor crew and not in the playing rotation at present.
EDIT: I've just noticed this is one of a handful of TDs that doesn't get preferential MM, that shows how good it is.
First impressions of the tank; what a death dealer. Ok, it's not without it's downsides, the armour is s
t, the 330m view range isn't incredible and the gun traverse arc is narrow. The aim speed is slow, and firing fully aimed does illicit the occasional "act of god" miss. On the plus side, this TD exemplifies what TDs were - a simple and cheap way of bringing the most powerful gun possible to the fight. The 122mm has an average 2.9 second aim time, and the standard accuracy of 0.4m, but I swear the reticle is tight on this thing, it feels pretty accurate. When those big rounds land, they don't half cause some panic, as 2925dpm from an unseen opponent in a tier 7 game seems to cause. The penetration seems really good too, when those rounds hit, they hit hard.So, after dropping my Russian TD crew in for a few battles, I've 100%'d them and they're ready to learn skills and perks. What do you guys recommend? I usually go for sixth sense first, but with these soft skinned TDs I find that not being seen in the first place is better than taking evasive action having already been spotted, and as such I've chosen camouflage as the first skill on this crew - thoughts? I'm thinking with a camo net and camo paint, this thing will be pretty hard to detect. After this, I think I'll follow with recon or situational awareness, then possibly 6th sense, BIA and snap shot. Is it true that snap shot decreases aim ring bloom while traversing a TD gun across it's arc?
I'm also undecided as to whether I'm going to put a gun rammer or laying drive on this thing. I think a laying drive will be better as it will maximise the my chance of fulfilling DPM potential by giving me less misses, or at least giving me a better success rate on clutch shots. The rammer is tempting, but I think it's probably a waste if I spend more time moving and aiming between shots than I do waiting for a reload.
I've also got 5840 gold left over now, so I will probably hold onto that for a while. I may see what cheap specials come out next month, or keep it banked for a Dicker Max as a crew trainer to prep a crew for the Jagdpanther II, which is currently sitting with a poor crew and not in the playing rotation at present.
EDIT: I've just noticed this is one of a handful of TDs that doesn't get preferential MM, that shows how good it is.
Edited by Mastodon2 on Friday 29th August 20:00
I run mine with a gun rammer, gun laying drive and binocs. It brings the horrible aim time down and since you have to move the TD around so much, a camo net won't be effective anyway. Vents or coated optics would be a good alternative for binocs, but I like them so I can do my own spotting sometimes.
I always get clutch braking on the driver first. The turn rate of this TD is good anyway, but on the likes of the SU-152 it's terrible. You can do the French TD trick of suddenly angling to 45 degrees after firing. You'd be surprised how many shots will bounce if you do that.
It's a good TD for late on in the game, as you can use its mobility to actively hunt down damaged or distracted tanks.
I always get clutch braking on the driver first. The turn rate of this TD is good anyway, but on the likes of the SU-152 it's terrible. You can do the French TD trick of suddenly angling to 45 degrees after firing. You'd be surprised how many shots will bounce if you do that.
It's a good TD for late on in the game, as you can use its mobility to actively hunt down damaged or distracted tanks.
Edited by Beati Dogu on Saturday 30th August 01:40
Mastodon2 said:
So, I decided to treat myself to a little bit of gold, as it is Friday after all, so I picked up the SU-122-44.
First impressions of the tank; what a death dealer. Ok, it's not without it's downsides, the armour is st
The frontal armour can be quite trollish on it actually. I dread meeting one head on in my E25 as it's nearly always a ricochet. Higher tier tanks probably won't have as much problem though.First impressions of the tank; what a death dealer. Ok, it's not without it's downsides, the armour is s
tAll that jazz said:
The frontal armour can be quite trollish on it actually. I dread meeting one head on in my E25 as it's nearly always a ricochet. Higher tier tanks probably won't have as much problem though.
I've had some troll bounces already, wiggling on reloads in short range fights seems to get a few pings off the front plate.For all you PC guys, what are your memories of the Port map? It's a favourite of mine, simply because it looks so good, particularly with the night + snow effects on and the glowing street lamps, but it's so one sided. I heard that they took it out of rotation on the PC game as the stats show it to be one-sided - I don't know which side has the advantage, but I have a very strong suspicion that the south side spawn is the one to get. I wonder, how the map made it into the the xbox version if WG still to this day, can't balance it enough for to use it again on PC.
We don't get effects, so no snow and no night, just vanilla sunny day.
I thought Port was OK - couple of strong spots if spawning from the South but if arty knew what they were doing you could use that to your advantage by trapping heavies. I recall taking out three high tier heavies in one match as we had them pinned by 2xTD's and I was further South than they expected so not impeded by the building.
Just had a bit of a 'session' as on my own for once today. 47 games, 33 wins 70.21% win rate, happy with that.
I thought Port was OK - couple of strong spots if spawning from the South but if arty knew what they were doing you could use that to your advantage by trapping heavies. I recall taking out three high tier heavies in one match as we had them pinned by 2xTD's and I was further South than they expected so not impeded by the building.
Just had a bit of a 'session' as on my own for once today. 47 games, 33 wins 70.21% win rate, happy with that.
sleepezy said:
Just had a bit of a 'session' as on my own for once today. 47 games, 33 wins 70.21% win rate, happy with that.
Bloody hell, that is good going! I'd be happy to get even close to that. 47 games is some session too, was that one sitting?Me and Z06George had another session earlier, only about an hour or so, to help George save up the last bit of silver for his T28, plus crew transfer costs. Then of course, theres a rammer, binocs, vents etc, not to mention some premium rounds, which adds 20,000 silver or so to the purchase of any new tank, and every new package thereafter. I decided to take a break from my SU-100 grind to play my money makers, my TOGII and SU-144-22. With the premium time on for free this weekend, I was netting upwards of 75,000 silver in some games in the SU, that thing is a f
king monster. In another match, I was in my TOGII on Erlenberg, George was dead and watching my spectator cam. I had 3 SPGs trying to hit me, but my super heavy spall liner was shrugging damage off, and there were so many craters on the ground around me, that George remarked that it "looked like the surface of the moon". There was also mirth about how the white camo paint scheme on the TOG makes it look like Moby Dick on the snow maps, hence my nickname for it, "HMS Gunwhale". I love my TOG, but I think the SU-122-44 is my favourite tank now.I did have a belter solo match in the TOGII after George went off, which is making me think the mastery badge system is definitely flakey, I lead a charge across the valley of El Halluf, climbing the slopes and going (very slowly) behind enemy lines, wreaking havoc, scoring multiple kills, spotting damage and damage to other enemies, and taking 1600 base xp - not even a 50% medal! The system is f
ked, I'm sure of it, because there aren't loads of people playing TOGs, it's not an easy tank to play and 1600 is not a bad XP score at all.Edited by Mastodon2 on Sunday 31st August 00:38
Yes, one session, with a break to mow the lawn in between! With three kids it's not often I get a whole Saturday to myself so thought I would indulge given all my evening free time is spent getting ready to move and a house renovation!
Was good to use a tank for several consecutive games, managed to get 'into the groove'. Admittedly used my favourite tanks - T71, StuG and my own personal noob-basher the M7 Priest. Must admit that RNG was on my side for once in several games (arty fire vs a moving scout who stopped after I'd fired so was nowhere near my aiming point but I was not zoomed in at all and still hit him, and a couple of games I busted out of far too early)
Shame I can't lend anyone credits, I only really play tanks I enjoy now so haven't bought any in ages. Got something like 21m credits to my name. Maybe I need to pick a new line and start working on that - fancy mediums, any recommendations?
Do we have plans afoot to use the strongholds? Must admit I don't know anything about them though.
Was good to use a tank for several consecutive games, managed to get 'into the groove'. Admittedly used my favourite tanks - T71, StuG and my own personal noob-basher the M7 Priest. Must admit that RNG was on my side for once in several games (arty fire vs a moving scout who stopped after I'd fired so was nowhere near my aiming point but I was not zoomed in at all and still hit him, and a couple of games I busted out of far too early)
Shame I can't lend anyone credits, I only really play tanks I enjoy now so haven't bought any in ages. Got something like 21m credits to my name. Maybe I need to pick a new line and start working on that - fancy mediums, any recommendations?
Do we have plans afoot to use the strongholds? Must admit I don't know anything about them though.
Oh boy, the new "Back to School: Tank Academy Week 1" event has some juicy stuff, in particular I'm seeing the "TD Delight - deal 750+ damage in one battle for a 25% xp bonus" missions as being very easy, and can be completed as many times as you want. Saying as I regularly earn 1000+ in my SU-100 and 2000+ in my SU-122-44, I think I'll be raking the experience in.
There is also 50% discounts on tier II-V premium vehicles, so I think I'll snap the Dicker Max up - it probably won't be a ludicrous at it's tier as the SU-122-44 is at it's tier, but they can't all be dingers. I won't be playing it for anything more than the daily double at least for a while, but it will be handy to have to start the process of training a crew up for the eventual process of turning my JagdPantherII into a JagdTiger and then into a Death star.
EDIT: The Dicker Max is tier 6, NEIN!
There is also 50% discounts on tier II-V premium vehicles, so I think I'll snap the Dicker Max up - it probably won't be a ludicrous at it's tier as the SU-122-44 is at it's tier, but they can't all be dingers. I won't be playing it for anything more than the daily double at least for a while, but it will be handy to have to start the process of training a crew up for the eventual process of turning my JagdPantherII into a JagdTiger and then into a Death star.
EDIT: The Dicker Max is tier 6, NEIN!
Edited by Mastodon2 on Monday 1st September 09:47
I never use gold ammo, im too tight and think its kinda cheating :P
I do really need to start using it though i think, just to stay in the game!
Oh and the few times i came on this weekend were terrible, whole teams collapsing on one side of the map so little i could do when surrounded on all sides.... and it happened quite a few games, so i gave up and turned the PC off
I do really need to start using it though i think, just to stay in the game!
Oh and the few times i came on this weekend were terrible, whole teams collapsing on one side of the map so little i could do when surrounded on all sides.... and it happened quite a few games, so i gave up and turned the PC off
Martin_Hx said:
I never use gold ammo, im too tight and think its kinda cheating :P
I do really need to start using it though i think, just to stay in the game!
Oh and the few times i came on this weekend were terrible, whole teams collapsing on one side of the map so little i could do when surrounded on all sides.... and it happened quite a few games, so i gave up and turned the PC off
I never spend gold on premium ammo, I use silver for it, and only shoot it when absolutely necessary - IE, when I'm tier 6 in a tier 8 match, and I absolutely cannot get a flank or weakspot. It becomes ludicrously expensive to only shoot premium, when it's average 4000 silver a shell. Then again, they say that if you penetrate with a premium round, you never lose money on that round, but you've only got to miss one or two shots in a game to turn a profit into a loss.I do really need to start using it though i think, just to stay in the game!
Oh and the few times i came on this weekend were terrible, whole teams collapsing on one side of the map so little i could do when surrounded on all sides.... and it happened quite a few games, so i gave up and turned the PC off
When gold ammo cost real money I never used it. But since they changed it, I'll use premium shells if it's called for. I don't see it's really any different than switching to HE for thinly armoured vehicles or ones on low health.
It also gives low tier tanks a chance when they're bottom tier canon fodder. I even carry some at tier 1, so I can go through the front of the T18s that dominate tier 2. They're really not used to being penetrated by the likes of a LOLtraktor. The T18 is getting a big nerf in patch 9.3, so enjoy them while they're hot.
Some people do spam it unnecessarily and that is a bit ridiculous. T69 drivers who only use HEAT for example. It's just not necessary and costs a fortune to do.
It also gives low tier tanks a chance when they're bottom tier canon fodder. I even carry some at tier 1, so I can go through the front of the T18s that dominate tier 2. They're really not used to being penetrated by the likes of a LOLtraktor. The T18 is getting a big nerf in patch 9.3, so enjoy them while they're hot.
Some people do spam it unnecessarily and that is a bit ridiculous. T69 drivers who only use HEAT for example. It's just not necessary and costs a fortune to do.
eatcustard said:
Did not know PH had one, whats the name so I can ask to join
The PH clan is abbreviated as VBRJ, which I'll let someone else explain 
. I'm not sure if you can apply or not, I think Jayfish said that that didn't work, but if you let us know here your in game nick then I'm sure one of us will happily send an invite 
Martin_Hx said:
Oh and the few times i came on this weekend were terrible, whole teams collapsing on one side of the map so little i could do when surrounded on all sides.... and it happened quite a few games, so i gave up and turned the PC off
Well done for the self-control, the amount of times I've chased my losses and ended up frustrated with a 40% win ratio when I really should have bailed after a few battles.Beati Dogu said:
Some people do spam it unnecessarily and that is a bit ridiculous. T69 drivers who only use HEAT for example. It's just not necessary and costs a fortune to do.
Know what you mean re spamming but T69 drivers have an excuse if their auto-loader is already full of premium - takes too long sometimes to reload the right ammo. Have been shot at by a T69 using premium in my T71 - bet he was p...sd off when he had two bouncesGassing Station | Video Games | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff