American Scammers and Hypocrisy
Discussion
So In my professional experience I’ve came across a group linked to confirmed fraudulent activity in various nations around the world. The company although obviously fictional, is a registered business in America and has been for almost a year now. They’ve been involved in just about every type of finance based fraud around.
I’m used to dealing with similar cases but on this occasion the sheer scale and duration of the scams is astounding.
When speaking to a colleague I mentioned it probably wouldn’t be too long before they get shutdown now we have enough evidence against them with collaboration from several other banking institutes.
Turns out I’m wrong, from his experience the US are reluctant to chase any claims of fraud as long as it brings money into their banks. As a result America is slowly becoming a new haven for fraudsters.
I was never a big fan of America but with this blatant hypocrisy much like their numerous spying scandals, and illegal actions in foreign countries I am truly starting to despise them. Am I the only one ?
I’m used to dealing with similar cases but on this occasion the sheer scale and duration of the scams is astounding.
When speaking to a colleague I mentioned it probably wouldn’t be too long before they get shutdown now we have enough evidence against them with collaboration from several other banking institutes.
Turns out I’m wrong, from his experience the US are reluctant to chase any claims of fraud as long as it brings money into their banks. As a result America is slowly becoming a new haven for fraudsters.
I was never a big fan of America but with this blatant hypocrisy much like their numerous spying scandals, and illegal actions in foreign countries I am truly starting to despise them. Am I the only one ?
They fined every foreign bank they could that looked like they had any accounts that could be linked to money laundering in the US... No US banks at all.
They fined BP a crap load of money and payments are still ongoing, this despite the fact companies whose equipment failed or was faulty (and onsite) were US companies and they got let off scott free.
They get into deals with other countries for their technology, they after buying there is usually a patch that needs upgrading, at that stage the US refuse to sell the patch or release source code.
Its like dealing with the mafia... look after oneself no matter the costs.
They fined BP a crap load of money and payments are still ongoing, this despite the fact companies whose equipment failed or was faulty (and onsite) were US companies and they got let off scott free.
They get into deals with other countries for their technology, they after buying there is usually a patch that needs upgrading, at that stage the US refuse to sell the patch or release source code.
Its like dealing with the mafia... look after oneself no matter the costs.
It's their usual M.O. Take for example our "collaboration" in developing the jet engine. Frank Whittle had almost single-handedly designed and built the jet engine - whilst being derided by the British engineering establishment and government - American comes along and offer to share their "expertise, research and designs" - which amounted to sod-all in reality, and gullible us say "Yeah, ok - that sounds like a fair deal". We gave them all the info they needed to just go and build essentially. We've continued to sell ourselves short ever since, where America is concerned.
Edited by pcvdriver on Tuesday 12th August 12:09
pcvdriver said:
It's their usual M.O. Take for example our "collaboration" in developing the jet engine. Frank Whittle had almost single-handedly designed and built the jet engine - whilst being derided by the British engineering establishment and government - American comes along and offer to share their "expertise, research and designs" - which amounted to sod-all in reality, and gullible us say "Yeah, ok - that sounds like a fair deal". We gave them all the info they needed to just go and build essentially. We've continued to sell ourselves short ever since, where America is concerned.
Look at the invention of the radar too.Edited by pcvdriver on Tuesday 12th August 12:09
Du1point8 said:
They fined BP a crap load of money and payments are still ongoing, this despite the fact companies whose equipment failed or was faulty (and onsite) were US companies and they got let off scott free.
A $1.4 Billion Fine is not getting away scott free, however in relation to the maximum possible penalty BP face yes it is significantly less. pcvdriver said:
It's their usual M.O. Take for example our "collaboration" in developing the jet engine. Frank Whittle had almost single-handedly designed and built the jet engine - whilst being derided by the British engineering establishment and government - American comes along and offer to share their "expertise, research and designs" - which amounted to sod-all in reality, and gullible us say "Yeah, ok - that sounds like a fair deal". We gave them all the info they needed to just go and build essentially. We've continued to sell ourselves short ever since, where America is concerned.
We shared a lot of development during the war for obvious reasons. American process engineering was second to none at the time. They could build things in the numbers that we alone could never do.Edited by pcvdriver on Tuesday 12th August 12:09
The post war Labour government naively gave the Russians 25 Nene jet engines which they promptly reverse engineered and uses against us in Korea in the Mig-15. They even allowed their representatives into the factory to inspect it. Of course they were wearing specially soft-soled shoes so they could pick up swarf off the floor for their metallurgists back home to analyse.
There was a case a few years back, with them fining and threatening an extradition order against employyes of a bank because the bank had arranged a foreign transfer from Iraninan Rial to US Dollars, the transaction didn't take place in american but because it was in USD and involved people they didn't like they went in heavy-handed and used a load of crap made up by american judges to try and excuse their actions in the case.
Beati Dogu said:
The post war Labour government naively gave the Russians 25 Nene jet engines which they promptly reverse engineered and uses against us in Korea in the Mig-15. They even allowed their representatives into the factory to inspect it. Of course they were wearing specially soft-soled shoes so they could pick up swarf off the floor for their metallurgists back home to analyse.
Bo11ocks! They didn't have to analyse "swarf", they had the "25 Nene jet engines" to do that with!Du1point8 said:
pcvdriver said:
It's their usual M.O. Take for example our "collaboration" in developing the jet engine. Frank Whittle had almost single-handedly designed and built the jet engine - whilst being derided by the British engineering establishment and government - American comes along and offer to share their "expertise, research and designs" - which amounted to sod-all in reality, and gullible us say "Yeah, ok - that sounds like a fair deal". We gave them all the info they needed to just go and build essentially. We've continued to sell ourselves short ever since, where America is concerned.
Look at the invention of the radar too.Edited by pcvdriver on Tuesday 12th August 12:09
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miles_M.52
VeeDubBigBird said:
So In my professional experience I’ve came across a group linked to confirmed fraudulent activity in various nations around the world.
Not wishing to be picky but why do you start your sentence with a redundant "So"? It would have been perfectly valid to say "In my professional experience..."People who start sentence with So for no apparent reason are my new hate target!
Andy Zarse said:
VeeDubBigBird said:
So In my professional experience I’ve came across a group linked to confirmed fraudulent activity in various nations around the world.
Not wishing to be picky but why do you start your sentence with a redundant "So"? It would have been perfectly valid to say "In my professional experience..."People who start sentence with So for no apparent reason are my new hate target!
The resort of the pretentious trying to look intelligent..........
VeeDubBigBird said:
So In my professional experience I’ve came across a group linked to confirmed fraudulent activity in various nations around the world. The company although obviously fictional, is a registered business in America and has been for almost a year now. They’ve been involved in just about every type of finance based fraud around.
I’m used to dealing with similar cases but on this occasion the sheer scale and duration of the scams is astounding.
When speaking to a colleague I mentioned it probably wouldn’t be too long before they get shutdown now we have enough evidence against them with collaboration from several other banking institutes.
Turns out I’m wrong, from his experience the US are reluctant to chase any claims of fraud as long as it brings money into their banks. As a result America is slowly becoming a new haven for fraudsters.
I was never a big fan of America but with this blatant hypocrisy much like their numerous spying scandals, and illegal actions in foreign countries I am truly starting to despise them. Am I the only one ?
Sounds like you're talking about pay-pal?I’m used to dealing with similar cases but on this occasion the sheer scale and duration of the scams is astounding.
When speaking to a colleague I mentioned it probably wouldn’t be too long before they get shutdown now we have enough evidence against them with collaboration from several other banking institutes.
Turns out I’m wrong, from his experience the US are reluctant to chase any claims of fraud as long as it brings money into their banks. As a result America is slowly becoming a new haven for fraudsters.
I was never a big fan of America but with this blatant hypocrisy much like their numerous spying scandals, and illegal actions in foreign countries I am truly starting to despise them. Am I the only one ?
VeeDubBigBird said:
So In my professional experience I’ve came across a group linked to confirmed fraudulent activity in various nations around the world. The company although obviously fictional, is a registered business in America and has been for almost a year now. They’ve been involved in just about every type of finance based fraud around.
I’m used to dealing with similar cases but on this occasion the sheer scale and duration of the scams is astounding.
When speaking to a colleague I mentioned it probably wouldn’t be too long before they get shutdown now we have enough evidence against them with collaboration from several other banking institutes.
Turns out I’m wrong, from his experience the US are reluctant to chase any claims of fraud as long as it brings money into their banks. As a result America is slowly becoming a new haven for fraudsters.
I was never a big fan of America but with this blatant hypocrisy much like their numerous spying scandals, and illegal actions in foreign countries I am truly starting to despise them. Am I the only one ?
Every nation spies on one another. Every nation has fraud and acts slowly if money comes their way. Does Swiss banking ring any bells? Do you despise them as well? I’m used to dealing with similar cases but on this occasion the sheer scale and duration of the scams is astounding.
When speaking to a colleague I mentioned it probably wouldn’t be too long before they get shutdown now we have enough evidence against them with collaboration from several other banking institutes.
Turns out I’m wrong, from his experience the US are reluctant to chase any claims of fraud as long as it brings money into their banks. As a result America is slowly becoming a new haven for fraudsters.
I was never a big fan of America but with this blatant hypocrisy much like their numerous spying scandals, and illegal actions in foreign countries I am truly starting to despise them. Am I the only one ?
Edited by Jimbeaux on Thursday 14th August 06:09
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