American Scammers and Hypocrisy

American Scammers and Hypocrisy

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VeeDubBigBird

Original Poster:

440 posts

128 months

Tuesday 12th August 2014
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So In my professional experience I’ve came across a group linked to confirmed fraudulent activity in various nations around the world. The company although obviously fictional, is a registered business in America and has been for almost a year now. They’ve been involved in just about every type of finance based fraud around.

I’m used to dealing with similar cases but on this occasion the sheer scale and duration of the scams is astounding.

When speaking to a colleague I mentioned it probably wouldn’t be too long before they get shutdown now we have enough evidence against them with collaboration from several other banking institutes.

Turns out I’m wrong, from his experience the US are reluctant to chase any claims of fraud as long as it brings money into their banks. As a result America is slowly becoming a new haven for fraudsters.

I was never a big fan of America but with this blatant hypocrisy much like their numerous spying scandals, and illegal actions in foreign countries I am truly starting to despise them. Am I the only one ?

Du1point8

21,604 posts

191 months

Tuesday 12th August 2014
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They fined every foreign bank they could that looked like they had any accounts that could be linked to money laundering in the US... No US banks at all.

They fined BP a crap load of money and payments are still ongoing, this despite the fact companies whose equipment failed or was faulty (and onsite) were US companies and they got let off scott free.

They get into deals with other countries for their technology, they after buying there is usually a patch that needs upgrading, at that stage the US refuse to sell the patch or release source code.

Its like dealing with the mafia... look after oneself no matter the costs.

pcvdriver

1,819 posts

198 months

Tuesday 12th August 2014
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It's their usual M.O. Take for example our "collaboration" in developing the jet engine. Frank Whittle had almost single-handedly designed and built the jet engine - whilst being derided by the British engineering establishment and government - American comes along and offer to share their "expertise, research and designs" - which amounted to sod-all in reality, and gullible us say "Yeah, ok - that sounds like a fair deal". We gave them all the info they needed to just go and build essentially. We've continued to sell ourselves short ever since, where America is concerned.

Edited by pcvdriver on Tuesday 12th August 12:09

Du1point8

21,604 posts

191 months

Tuesday 12th August 2014
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pcvdriver said:
It's their usual M.O. Take for example our "collaboration" in developing the jet engine. Frank Whittle had almost single-handedly designed and built the jet engine - whilst being derided by the British engineering establishment and government - American comes along and offer to share their "expertise, research and designs" - which amounted to sod-all in reality, and gullible us say "Yeah, ok - that sounds like a fair deal". We gave them all the info they needed to just go and build essentially. We've continued to sell ourselves short ever since, where America is concerned.

Edited by pcvdriver on Tuesday 12th August 12:09
Look at the invention of the radar too.

Bosshogg76

792 posts

182 months

Tuesday 12th August 2014
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Du1point8 said:
They fined BP a crap load of money and payments are still ongoing, this despite the fact companies whose equipment failed or was faulty (and onsite) were US companies and they got let off scott free.
A $1.4 Billion Fine is not getting away scott free, however in relation to the maximum possible penalty BP face yes it is significantly less.

vonuber

17,868 posts

164 months

Tuesday 12th August 2014
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Meh, nothing new. Look at the 'Destroyers for bases' or the bankrupting of the UK by the US during WW2.

Beati Dogu

8,861 posts

138 months

Tuesday 12th August 2014
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pcvdriver said:
It's their usual M.O. Take for example our "collaboration" in developing the jet engine. Frank Whittle had almost single-handedly designed and built the jet engine - whilst being derided by the British engineering establishment and government - American comes along and offer to share their "expertise, research and designs" - which amounted to sod-all in reality, and gullible us say "Yeah, ok - that sounds like a fair deal". We gave them all the info they needed to just go and build essentially. We've continued to sell ourselves short ever since, where America is concerned.

Edited by pcvdriver on Tuesday 12th August 12:09
We shared a lot of development during the war for obvious reasons. American process engineering was second to none at the time. They could build things in the numbers that we alone could never do.

The post war Labour government naively gave the Russians 25 Nene jet engines which they promptly reverse engineered and uses against us in Korea in the Mig-15. They even allowed their representatives into the factory to inspect it. Of course they were wearing specially soft-soled shoes so they could pick up swarf off the floor for their metallurgists back home to analyse.

VeeDubBigBird

Original Poster:

440 posts

128 months

Tuesday 12th August 2014
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There was a case a few years back, with them fining and threatening an extradition order against employyes of a bank because the bank had arranged a foreign transfer from Iraninan Rial to US Dollars, the transaction didn't take place in american but because it was in USD and involved people they didn't like they went in heavy-handed and used a load of crap made up by american judges to try and excuse their actions in the case.

SV8Predator

2,102 posts

164 months

Tuesday 12th August 2014
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Beati Dogu said:
The post war Labour government naively gave the Russians 25 Nene jet engines which they promptly reverse engineered and uses against us in Korea in the Mig-15. They even allowed their representatives into the factory to inspect it. Of course they were wearing specially soft-soled shoes so they could pick up swarf off the floor for their metallurgists back home to analyse.
Bo11ocks! They didn't have to analyse "swarf", they had the "25 Nene jet engines" to do that with!


Starfighter

4,908 posts

177 months

Wednesday 13th August 2014
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Du1point8 said:
pcvdriver said:
It's their usual M.O. Take for example our "collaboration" in developing the jet engine. Frank Whittle had almost single-handedly designed and built the jet engine - whilst being derided by the British engineering establishment and government - American comes along and offer to share their "expertise, research and designs" - which amounted to sod-all in reality, and gullible us say "Yeah, ok - that sounds like a fair deal". We gave them all the info they needed to just go and build essentially. We've continued to sell ourselves short ever since, where America is concerned.

Edited by pcvdriver on Tuesday 12th August 12:09
Look at the invention of the radar too.
And the ablity to get the Bell X1 supersonic and get the pilot back after the flight with a fully moving elevator.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miles_M.52

Andy Zarse

10,868 posts

246 months

Wednesday 13th August 2014
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VeeDubBigBird said:
So In my professional experience I’ve came across a group linked to confirmed fraudulent activity in various nations around the world.
Not wishing to be picky but why do you start your sentence with a redundant "So"? It would have been perfectly valid to say "In my professional experience..."



People who start sentence with So for no apparent reason are my new hate target! smile

Hilts

4,379 posts

281 months

Wednesday 13th August 2014
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Andy Zarse said:
People who start sentence with So for no apparent reason are my new hate target! smile
LMAO...self ownage.

Corruption is rife in the USA, even their decorated Vietnam war aces are on the take.

anonymous-user

53 months

Wednesday 13th August 2014
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Andy Zarse said:
VeeDubBigBird said:
So In my professional experience I’ve came across a group linked to confirmed fraudulent activity in various nations around the world.
Not wishing to be picky but why do you start your sentence with a redundant "So"? It would have been perfectly valid to say "In my professional experience..."



People who start sentence with So for no apparent reason are my new hate target! smile
Quite right too. It's almost as bad as the verbal lift at the end of every sentence that Aussies, amongst others, are prone to.

The resort of the pretentious trying to look intelligent..........

Andy Zarse

10,868 posts

246 months

Wednesday 13th August 2014
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REALIST123 said:
Quite right too. It's almost as bad as the verbal lift at the end of every sentence that Aussies, amongst others, are prone to.

The resort of the pretentious trying to look intelligent..........
"Kind of like"... I'm all like no way.

Martin4x4

6,506 posts

131 months

Wednesday 13th August 2014
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VeeDubBigBird said:
So In my professional experience I’ve came across a group linked to confirmed fraudulent activity in various nations around the world. The company although obviously fictional, is a registered business in America and has been for almost a year now. They’ve been involved in just about every type of finance based fraud around.

I’m used to dealing with similar cases but on this occasion the sheer scale and duration of the scams is astounding.

When speaking to a colleague I mentioned it probably wouldn’t be too long before they get shutdown now we have enough evidence against them with collaboration from several other banking institutes.

Turns out I’m wrong, from his experience the US are reluctant to chase any claims of fraud as long as it brings money into their banks. As a result America is slowly becoming a new haven for fraudsters.

I was never a big fan of America but with this blatant hypocrisy much like their numerous spying scandals, and illegal actions in foreign countries I am truly starting to despise them. Am I the only one ?
Sounds like you're talking about pay-pal?

Matt Harper

6,613 posts

200 months

Thursday 14th August 2014
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You are all our bhes.

QROPS

2,769 posts

183 months

Thursday 14th August 2014
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Matt Harper said:
You are all our bhes.
Well you were our bhes until you asked the French to come and wipe your arses.

Jimbeaux

33,791 posts

230 months

Thursday 14th August 2014
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VeeDubBigBird said:
So In my professional experience I’ve came across a group linked to confirmed fraudulent activity in various nations around the world. The company although obviously fictional, is a registered business in America and has been for almost a year now. They’ve been involved in just about every type of finance based fraud around.

I’m used to dealing with similar cases but on this occasion the sheer scale and duration of the scams is astounding.

When speaking to a colleague I mentioned it probably wouldn’t be too long before they get shutdown now we have enough evidence against them with collaboration from several other banking institutes.

Turns out I’m wrong, from his experience the US are reluctant to chase any claims of fraud as long as it brings money into their banks. As a result America is slowly becoming a new haven for fraudsters.

I was never a big fan of America but with this blatant hypocrisy much like their numerous spying scandals, and illegal actions in foreign countries I am truly starting to despise them. Am I the only one ?
Every nation spies on one another. Every nation has fraud and acts slowly if money comes their way. Does Swiss banking ring any bells? Do you despise them as well? smile

Edited by Jimbeaux on Thursday 14th August 06:09

Jimbeaux

33,791 posts

230 months

Thursday 14th August 2014
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Matt Harper said:
You are all our bhes.
biggrin

Jimbeaux

33,791 posts

230 months

Thursday 14th August 2014
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QROPS said:
Matt Harper said:
You are all our bhes.
Well you were our bhes until you asked the French to come and wipe your arses.
This is going to go well, obviously. biggrin