A future where everything is automated...
Discussion
Morning!
For some reason I couldn't sleep and ended up on the usual youtube web quest, eventually coming across this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Pq-S557XQU. It explains a future where everything (no, really, everything) is automated which eventually means that jobs / humans become obsolete. I know there's a youtube thread but I was hoping for more of a discussion around the concept. What happens afterwards? What will humans be for in that case?
I'm fairly sure my job is already in the process changing, it might be a few years yet but there's no reason it shouldn't be taken out of human hands once people get their heads around it, not to mention that when there's automated cars around, there shouldn't be any need for Stability Control Systems and ABS to get them out of the accidents they didn't get into in the first place!
I think the film 'Her' also raises some interesting concepts around this subject but on the virtual side of things. No spoilers for those who've not seen it but totally should have by now.
(The flaw is electricity of course; if we run out of electricity first then the whole concept is screwed.)
For some reason I couldn't sleep and ended up on the usual youtube web quest, eventually coming across this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Pq-S557XQU. It explains a future where everything (no, really, everything) is automated which eventually means that jobs / humans become obsolete. I know there's a youtube thread but I was hoping for more of a discussion around the concept. What happens afterwards? What will humans be for in that case?
I'm fairly sure my job is already in the process changing, it might be a few years yet but there's no reason it shouldn't be taken out of human hands once people get their heads around it, not to mention that when there's automated cars around, there shouldn't be any need for Stability Control Systems and ABS to get them out of the accidents they didn't get into in the first place!
I think the film 'Her' also raises some interesting concepts around this subject but on the virtual side of things. No spoilers for those who've not seen it but totally should have by now.
(The flaw is electricity of course; if we run out of electricity first then the whole concept is screwed.)
Chapppers said:
Morning!
For some reason I couldn't sleep and ended up on the usual youtube web quest, eventually coming across this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Pq-S557XQU. It explains a future where everything (no, really, everything) is automated which eventually means that jobs / humans become obsolete. I know there's a youtube thread but I was hoping for more of a discussion around the concept. What happens afterwards? What will humans be for in that case?
I'm fairly sure my job is already in the process changing, it might be a few years yet but there's no reason it shouldn't be taken out of human hands once people get their heads around it, not to mention that when there's automated cars around, there shouldn't be any need for Stability Control Systems and ABS to get them out of the accidents they didn't get into in the first place!
I think the film 'Her' also raises some interesting concepts around this subject but on the virtual side of things. No spoilers for those who've not seen it but totally should have by now.
(The flaw is electricity of course; if we run out of electricity first then the whole concept is screwed.)
Didn't they make a film about this eventuality, I think it was called "terminator" or something For some reason I couldn't sleep and ended up on the usual youtube web quest, eventually coming across this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Pq-S557XQU. It explains a future where everything (no, really, everything) is automated which eventually means that jobs / humans become obsolete. I know there's a youtube thread but I was hoping for more of a discussion around the concept. What happens afterwards? What will humans be for in that case?
I'm fairly sure my job is already in the process changing, it might be a few years yet but there's no reason it shouldn't be taken out of human hands once people get their heads around it, not to mention that when there's automated cars around, there shouldn't be any need for Stability Control Systems and ABS to get them out of the accidents they didn't get into in the first place!
I think the film 'Her' also raises some interesting concepts around this subject but on the virtual side of things. No spoilers for those who've not seen it but totally should have by now.
(The flaw is electricity of course; if we run out of electricity first then the whole concept is screwed.)
Can you honestly see any woman leaving her hair salon session to a robot? I think not !
Doesn't The Time Machine sort of look at this (albeit with a subservient underclass vs. machines) as well as A Brave New World?
Probably countless other films and books.
While we're on the subject though, my local (to work) Tescos has just got a "scan as you shop" till section put in next to the DIY tills and I do wonder about the implications of entirely replacing all till staff with DIY tills.
There's the humanitarian argument that people need jobs, but economically does it make more sense? For the company, lower costs, but for the economy as a whole, less wages going in, further increases the.. wealth divide or whatever they call it? Does it reduce tax revenue, or would that depend on what tax avoidance schemes the share holders use?
If we try to imagine a world where supermarkets are entirely automated, rubbish is just dropped in a chute and that's the last you see of it, basically all unskilled labour is automated, the only options are skilled jobs or no jobs, but maybe not everyone can do a skilled job.
I think the end result is the unskilled live off benefits supported by the skilled workers while the share holders avoid paying tax and get rich off everyone else and I think we're already there
Probably countless other films and books.
While we're on the subject though, my local (to work) Tescos has just got a "scan as you shop" till section put in next to the DIY tills and I do wonder about the implications of entirely replacing all till staff with DIY tills.
There's the humanitarian argument that people need jobs, but economically does it make more sense? For the company, lower costs, but for the economy as a whole, less wages going in, further increases the.. wealth divide or whatever they call it? Does it reduce tax revenue, or would that depend on what tax avoidance schemes the share holders use?
If we try to imagine a world where supermarkets are entirely automated, rubbish is just dropped in a chute and that's the last you see of it, basically all unskilled labour is automated, the only options are skilled jobs or no jobs, but maybe not everyone can do a skilled job.
I think the end result is the unskilled live off benefits supported by the skilled workers while the share holders avoid paying tax and get rich off everyone else and I think we're already there
I also think it's a contribution to societies devolution of people skills and ever increasing violent or aggressive attitudes to each other, as our human interaction becomes less and less and we spend more time interacting with a computer!
Edited by TLandCruiser on Friday 15th August 15:08
Ahahaha, well, it's already happened to me!
I used to be in the printing industry. Good industry, good money.
Then the internet and digital printing came along, and basically buggered it all up, along with the recession. No-one wants ink on paper anymore, and those that still do, only want to pay pennies for it. Hence, I started to suffer redundancy after redundancy...
So I realised I had to change career - and I thought to myself, what is a decent, interesting career, that can never be automated?
My answer saw me re-training as a Paramedic - two years in now, with just a year to go before qualifying.
I can't ever see this job becoming automated, lol!!!
I used to be in the printing industry. Good industry, good money.
Then the internet and digital printing came along, and basically buggered it all up, along with the recession. No-one wants ink on paper anymore, and those that still do, only want to pay pennies for it. Hence, I started to suffer redundancy after redundancy...
So I realised I had to change career - and I thought to myself, what is a decent, interesting career, that can never be automated?
My answer saw me re-training as a Paramedic - two years in now, with just a year to go before qualifying.
I can't ever see this job becoming automated, lol!!!
Ray Luxury-Yacht said:
Ahahaha, well, it's already happened to me!
I used to be in the printing industry. Good industry, good money.
Then the internet and digital printing came along, and basically buggered it all up, along with the recession. No-one wants ink on paper anymore, and those that still do, only want to pay pennies for it. Hence, I started to suffer redundancy after redundancy...
So I realised I had to change career - and I thought to myself, what is a decent, interesting career, that can never be automated?
My answer saw me re-training as a Paramedic - two years in now, with just a year to go before qualifying.
I can't ever see this job becoming automated, lol!!!
Good on you! I was put in my combat medics course when I was in the army...and I loved it! But when I left the army there was no trainne medic positions going! But never say never! I think it is a fantasic profession! How old were you when you changed careers?I used to be in the printing industry. Good industry, good money.
Then the internet and digital printing came along, and basically buggered it all up, along with the recession. No-one wants ink on paper anymore, and those that still do, only want to pay pennies for it. Hence, I started to suffer redundancy after redundancy...
So I realised I had to change career - and I thought to myself, what is a decent, interesting career, that can never be automated?
My answer saw me re-training as a Paramedic - two years in now, with just a year to go before qualifying.
I can't ever see this job becoming automated, lol!!!
el stovey said:
We'll just do fun stuff, as all the jobs will be automated. Unless we create jibs that could be automated but we do them just because we want to.
Oh, dear, this was the prediction in the 1950s, along with "nuclear power will be so cheap we won't bother to meter it". JOhn
TLandCruiser said:
Ray Luxury-Yacht said:
Ahahaha, well, it's already happened to me!
I used to be in the printing industry. Good industry, good money.
Then the internet and digital printing came along, and basically buggered it all up, along with the recession. No-one wants ink on paper anymore, and those that still do, only want to pay pennies for it. Hence, I started to suffer redundancy after redundancy...
So I realised I had to change career - and I thought to myself, what is a decent, interesting career, that can never be automated?
My answer saw me re-training as a Paramedic - two years in now, with just a year to go before qualifying.
I can't ever see this job becoming automated, lol!!!
Good on you! I was put in my combat medics course when I was in the army...and I loved it! But when I left the army there was no trainne medic positions going! But never say never! I think it is a fantasic profession! How old were you when you changed careers?I used to be in the printing industry. Good industry, good money.
Then the internet and digital printing came along, and basically buggered it all up, along with the recession. No-one wants ink on paper anymore, and those that still do, only want to pay pennies for it. Hence, I started to suffer redundancy after redundancy...
So I realised I had to change career - and I thought to myself, what is a decent, interesting career, that can never be automated?
My answer saw me re-training as a Paramedic - two years in now, with just a year to go before qualifying.
I can't ever see this job becoming automated, lol!!!
) but it's been an amazing ride so far. There is one ex-combat medic on my course. From what I have heard, someone like you would easily get a place to train up.
If you want to, PM me and I'll help as much as I can!
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