advice please- how to use/prolong clutch life- E-Gear Murci
Discussion
as per the title, any relevant advice gratefully received
aim is to prolong clutch life and provide mechanical sympathy to the transmission system/car , without being over-delicate , and missing out on the potential for fun and adrenaline surges
in particular, advice re:
- hill starts
- full bore acceleration
- reversing
- town use
-left foot braking
never had a 'paddle gearbox' car, so please begin with the basics
thank you in anticipation
aim is to prolong clutch life and provide mechanical sympathy to the transmission system/car , without being over-delicate , and missing out on the potential for fun and adrenaline surges
in particular, advice re:
- hill starts
- full bore acceleration
- reversing
- town use
-left foot braking
never had a 'paddle gearbox' car, so please begin with the basics
thank you in anticipation
Firstly congratulations on the new purchase, you wont regret it! In regards to clutch wear the main points are :
1. When stationary put the transmission in neutral
2. When in traffic dont creep wait for a gap and allow the clutch to engage fully
3. Full bore starts and hard driving will do less harm than allowing slip, clutch slip is your enemu!
4. If the car starts beeping and juddering when you are manovering. STOP! This is a warning the clutch is over heating
5. Reversing up a hill on full lock is a sure fire way to kill your clutch. Try to avoid this.
1. When stationary put the transmission in neutral
2. When in traffic dont creep wait for a gap and allow the clutch to engage fully
3. Full bore starts and hard driving will do less harm than allowing slip, clutch slip is your enemu!
4. If the car starts beeping and juddering when you are manovering. STOP! This is a warning the clutch is over heating
5. Reversing up a hill on full lock is a sure fire way to kill your clutch. Try to avoid this.
lambodave--thank you for your very practical and useful comments
it seems that I must try to minimise any avoidable clutch slippage
how will I know when the clutch is slipping , or beginning to slip with an e-gear car?
?what are the tell-tale signs that I need to watch out for?
mosi--good to know that your clutch lasted for such a long time
could you add to what lambodave has already said, so that I can pick up on as many tips as possible to prolong the e gear clutch life
it sounds as if once the clutch is fully engaged , I as the driver have done my bit in minimising clutch wear/abuse, and that I can then use the full torque of the engine
if this is correct , then should I constantly use the sport mode setting, as I believe that the sport mode enables quicker gear changes , presumably (at least partly )by allowing the clutch to fully engage more quickly
is there a flaw in this logic?
this seems to be the crucial point##
thank you
it seems that I must try to minimise any avoidable clutch slippage
how will I know when the clutch is slipping , or beginning to slip with an e-gear car?
?what are the tell-tale signs that I need to watch out for?
mosi--good to know that your clutch lasted for such a long time
could you add to what lambodave has already said, so that I can pick up on as many tips as possible to prolong the e gear clutch life
it sounds as if once the clutch is fully engaged , I as the driver have done my bit in minimising clutch wear/abuse, and that I can then use the full torque of the engine
if this is correct , then should I constantly use the sport mode setting, as I believe that the sport mode enables quicker gear changes , presumably (at least partly )by allowing the clutch to fully engage more quickly
is there a flaw in this logic?
- with a manual clutch , I know when the clutch is being slipped, but with e gear I don't
this seems to be the crucial point##
thank you
carspath said:
is there a flaw in this logic?
this seems to be the crucial point##
thank you
revs slightly ahead of the road speed : just like a manual- with a manual clutch , I know when the clutch is being slipped, but with e gear I don't
this seems to be the crucial point##
thank you
drive it around with the radio off and you'll soon get it
hi Resso and f1ten---haven't bought anything yet, the car is still at a msin dealer having a ppi , but I think I'm besotted
been lusting after one, since i saw it at the factory launch in sept 2001, and its been a long wait, but this one may well make that wait worthwhile
the 355 gtb would need to go to get the new toy , and the swap has been pencilled
feeling a bit of a judas re the 355--its been a very good and reliable car
I've only ever driven a paddle shift car for 12 laps of Silverstone at McLaren's invitation about a year ago--never on the road until 2 weeks ago
I think that it may be time to move on from being a total luddite , and the e-gear experience on the road was great
Andrew--thanks for the advice , but what is a radio?
been lusting after one, since i saw it at the factory launch in sept 2001, and its been a long wait, but this one may well make that wait worthwhile
the 355 gtb would need to go to get the new toy , and the swap has been pencilled
feeling a bit of a judas re the 355--its been a very good and reliable car
I've only ever driven a paddle shift car for 12 laps of Silverstone at McLaren's invitation about a year ago--never on the road until 2 weeks ago
I think that it may be time to move on from being a total luddite , and the e-gear experience on the road was great
Andrew--thanks for the advice , but what is a radio?
mr Daytona--3 reasons :
firstly, there are knowledgeable people, including steve Higgins at lambo London, who feel that the e gear is actually more protective of the whole transmission system, in that the computer will not allow over-revving etc
there are others , with extensive ownership experience , on lambo-talk for example, who say that the system is essentially sound if well maintained , and have driven e gear cars for serious distances over many years , with only routine servicing
secondly, I found using the e gear system great fun----just plain , simple fun
thirdly, all my life I've had manual cars, and having a paddle shift would give me a new and different experience
so having spent many years , admiring and wanting a murcie, and spending too many hours reading too many forum threads, and taking on board the 3 points above , 2 things appear clear:
firstly, you need to find a well maintained car---the car I am looking at , is 9 years old , and has done 10,000+ miles , and has 10 lambo London service stamps in the book , and much more importantly, the service invoice details match up to how the car should have been maintained
the ppi from a different main dealer also appears to stack up , and cosmetically the inside and the outside(which has never had any panels repainted since leaving the factory)tally with a carefully cared for 9 year old car
secondly, having bought a good car, it is incumbent on the new owner to treat that car with the same respect
And hence this thread, to learn more about the one system (the e-gear system )that I have no experience of, before I unwittingly abuse the car through ignorance
firstly, there are knowledgeable people, including steve Higgins at lambo London, who feel that the e gear is actually more protective of the whole transmission system, in that the computer will not allow over-revving etc
there are others , with extensive ownership experience , on lambo-talk for example, who say that the system is essentially sound if well maintained , and have driven e gear cars for serious distances over many years , with only routine servicing
secondly, I found using the e gear system great fun----just plain , simple fun
thirdly, all my life I've had manual cars, and having a paddle shift would give me a new and different experience
so having spent many years , admiring and wanting a murcie, and spending too many hours reading too many forum threads, and taking on board the 3 points above , 2 things appear clear:
firstly, you need to find a well maintained car---the car I am looking at , is 9 years old , and has done 10,000+ miles , and has 10 lambo London service stamps in the book , and much more importantly, the service invoice details match up to how the car should have been maintained
the ppi from a different main dealer also appears to stack up , and cosmetically the inside and the outside(which has never had any panels repainted since leaving the factory)tally with a carefully cared for 9 year old car
secondly, having bought a good car, it is incumbent on the new owner to treat that car with the same respect
And hence this thread, to learn more about the one system (the e-gear system )that I have no experience of, before I unwittingly abuse the car through ignorance
Mr Daytona said:
Genuine question this OP, but if the e-gear causes so many issues and compromises, why not just get a manual ?
I thought the same, right until I got my LP670-4 SV. I did have to learn to understand how to use e-gear properly - and it was me adjusting not the car. Now I would not go back. Especially if you track your car. I sold my Ferrari 550 WSR (a great manual car) for an Aventador - and e-gear is the only way to go, as far as I'm concerned.Just my 2 penneth.....
A
14 years on, and with me driving 14,000 of the current 32,000KM on the odometer, I can concur with Anjum, that the older lambos demand that the driver adapts to the car , rather than the other way around
my car is still on its original factory clutch (1988), and a lot of credit must go to its first and only other owner, who had 4 other countaches, prior to what is now mine
but I did take a lot of trouble to find out from others(without the help of the internet in those olden days), just how not to unwittingly damage the car
and I'm trying to do the same with respect to the e-gear system now
my reasons for considering an e-gear car, as outlined a few minutes ago ---see above, I feel are sound
so please keep the tips ----e-gear or with respect to some other system on the murcie----rolling in
(and the more detailed the description the better)
my car is still on its original factory clutch (1988), and a lot of credit must go to its first and only other owner, who had 4 other countaches, prior to what is now mine
but I did take a lot of trouble to find out from others(without the help of the internet in those olden days), just how not to unwittingly damage the car
and I'm trying to do the same with respect to the e-gear system now
my reasons for considering an e-gear car, as outlined a few minutes ago ---see above, I feel are sound
so please keep the tips ----e-gear or with respect to some other system on the murcie----rolling in
(and the more detailed the description the better)
Fair play, thanks for the response.
Sadly my experience of driving cars of this ilk ( other than a Lotus Elise I ran 10 years or so ago) is limited to a couple of laps of an airfield in a V8 Vantage (manual), Gallardo (again manual) and a F430 (F1 auto) and the 2 manual cars just felt so much more involving, more intense and frankly more exciting. Horses for courses I suspect.
Very envious though and hope you get the car you want.
Sadly my experience of driving cars of this ilk ( other than a Lotus Elise I ran 10 years or so ago) is limited to a couple of laps of an airfield in a V8 Vantage (manual), Gallardo (again manual) and a F430 (F1 auto) and the 2 manual cars just felt so much more involving, more intense and frankly more exciting. Horses for courses I suspect.
Very envious though and hope you get the car you want.
gallardo, but the system's similar
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