US journalist beheaded by ISIS...
Discussion
petrolsniffer said:
benjj said:
The first/next major hurdle for the powers that be is when we start seeing large scale 'revenge' attacks on UK soil.
I'm expecting them when Alan Henning's beheading tape is released in about 10 days.
surprised it hasn't happened already loads of stuff on facebook instilling hatred not be long until some drunk skidhead mouth breathers beat the first unlucky muslim they see.I'm expecting them when Alan Henning's beheading tape is released in about 10 days.
TheRealFingers99 said:
Even by the standards of the Muslim hating sick-puppies, revenge attacks on ordinary Muslims on behalf of an aid worker (apparently employed by a Muslim NGO) are barking mad.
Spot on, no disagreement from me there. It'll still happen though; the world's a wacky fuccked up place.Langweilig said:
I heard on Radio 5 Live that Australia will be sending 160 troops and 50 aircraft to counter the threat by ISIL. They are expected to be based in Saudi Arabia.
600 troops at the request of the US. Looks like something big is about to happen.http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-291956...
Saudis are getting nervous.
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/sep/14/isis-...
It's like watching the final act of se7en.
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/sep/14/isis-...
Guardian said:
A senior western source told the Guardian that Saudi Arabia felt so threatened by Isis that it was prepared to act in a frontline role. "There is a very real possibility that we could have the Saudi air force bombing targets inside Syria. That is a remarkable development, and something the US would be very pleased to see."
Another senior official said that Saudi Arabia was now far more willing to play an open role in the offensive against Isis than it did during the 1991 Gulf war and the 2003 invasion of Iraq. On both previous campaigns, Riyadh allowed its military bases to be used by US forces, but did not commit its own troops or airmen. This time, Riyadh sees Isis as a direct threat. "They actually see themselves as the real target. They know that they have to step up, and they are ready to, from what we can see," the official said.
Somehow I don't think we're going to be able to sit this one out. When Henning dies DC will have his mandate and ISIS get what they want.Another senior official said that Saudi Arabia was now far more willing to play an open role in the offensive against Isis than it did during the 1991 Gulf war and the 2003 invasion of Iraq. On both previous campaigns, Riyadh allowed its military bases to be used by US forces, but did not commit its own troops or airmen. This time, Riyadh sees Isis as a direct threat. "They actually see themselves as the real target. They know that they have to step up, and they are ready to, from what we can see," the official said.
It's like watching the final act of se7en.
HOW TO STOP ISLAMIC TERRORISTS...... it worked once in our History...
Once in U.S. history an episode of Islamic terrorism was very quickly stopped. It happened in the Philippines about 1911, when Gen. John J. Pershing was in command of the garrison. There had been numerous Islamic terrorist attacks, so "Black Jack" told his boys to catch the perps and teach them a lesson.
Forced to dig their own graves, the terrorists were all tied to posts, execution style. The U.S. soldiers then brought in pigs and slaughtered them, rubbing their bullets in the blood and fat. Thus, the terrorists were terrorized; they saw that they would be contaminated with hogs' blood. This would mean that they could not enter Heaven, even if they died as terrorist martyrs.
All but one was shot, their bodies dumped into the grave, and the hog guts dumped atop the bodies. The lone survivor was allowed to escape back to the terrorist camp and tell his brethren what happened to the others. This brought a stop to terrorism in the Philippines for the next 50 years.
Pointing a gun into the face of Islamic terrorists won't make them flinch.
They welcome the chance to die for Allah. Like Gen. Pershing, we must show them that they won't get to Muslim heaven (which they believe has an endless supply of virgins) but instead will die with the hated pigs of the devil.
http://urbanlegends.about.com/library/bl_black_jac...
Once in U.S. history an episode of Islamic terrorism was very quickly stopped. It happened in the Philippines about 1911, when Gen. John J. Pershing was in command of the garrison. There had been numerous Islamic terrorist attacks, so "Black Jack" told his boys to catch the perps and teach them a lesson.
Forced to dig their own graves, the terrorists were all tied to posts, execution style. The U.S. soldiers then brought in pigs and slaughtered them, rubbing their bullets in the blood and fat. Thus, the terrorists were terrorized; they saw that they would be contaminated with hogs' blood. This would mean that they could not enter Heaven, even if they died as terrorist martyrs.
All but one was shot, their bodies dumped into the grave, and the hog guts dumped atop the bodies. The lone survivor was allowed to escape back to the terrorist camp and tell his brethren what happened to the others. This brought a stop to terrorism in the Philippines for the next 50 years.
Pointing a gun into the face of Islamic terrorists won't make them flinch.
They welcome the chance to die for Allah. Like Gen. Pershing, we must show them that they won't get to Muslim heaven (which they believe has an endless supply of virgins) but instead will die with the hated pigs of the devil.
http://urbanlegends.about.com/library/bl_black_jac...
B17NNS said:
Somehow I don't think we're going to be able to sit this one out. When Henning dies DC will have his mandate and ISIS get what they want.
It's like watching the final act of se7en.
Do you think he'll get it through parliament The last loss was pretty humiliating and it would be a brave man to take it to the commons again.It's like watching the final act of se7en.
B17NNS said:
Somehow I don't think we're going to be able to sit this one out. When Henning dies DC will have his mandate and ISIS get what they want.
It's like watching the final act of se7en.
Do you think he'll get it through parliament The last loss was pretty humiliating and it would be a brave man to take it to the commons again.It's like watching the final act of se7en.
groucho said:
So many apologists! When are we going to wake up? No mosques in this country. We are at war, or will be soon. No room for any religion, yep, I'm racist, I don't like Muslims.
Do you dislike the Muslims who commented on this newsfeed? 
http://gulfnews.com/news/region/iraq/third-hostage...
Comments (18)
Added 18:06 September 14, 2014
it is so deplorable that i do not have words to write. i believe that all Muslims should come forward and announce total rejection of these barbaric acts (which are being attributed to - so called Islamic State) - and they should do it in the most strongest way possible .... all my sympathies are with the family of the diseased - RIP
Muhammed, Duabi, United Arab Emirates
Added 16:13 September 14, 2014
What ever the Name is ISIS, ISIL, ABCD, etc. They are not even 1% close to Islamic teaching. To form a Islamic State you need to read the Qur'an first with proper understanding. Sad to see name of Islam getting destroyed... Some wise words from Glorious Qur'an : Allah Almighty declares that killing an innocent person unjustly is like killing all of mankind and saving a person’s life is like saving all of mankind.
Mohammed, Dubai, United Arab Emirates
Added 15:54 September 14, 2014
I am starting to think same as Br. John and Mike Steven now. @Mariakutty, the act is indeed "barbaric", Br. John did not intend to negate that. What we are questioning here is the authentication of these events to whom it is attributed to. By the way Mariakutty, I am sure that even a LKG student has a good understanding of the manipulative role of media and of course Uncle Sam
You love posting comments on Isil articles, don't you? For me, media news is nothing but an illusion to the reality. Umm Ayesha, Sharjah, United Arab Emirates
Added 15:15 September 14, 2014
No country can win war on terror as long as its being affiliated to certain religion. .It is the high time US admitted that they committed several mistakes in the past and ready to make changes in the way they lead the world as of today. Realize that the common enemy of all the terrorists is not the countries they are operating right now but western countries and US. The recent beheadings underline this fact. If terrorists don’t fear anybody, then why are they wearing mask .Expose their identity and let the world know who they are
Girish R edathitta, Dubai, United Arab Emirates
Added 14:50 September 14, 2014
This is not what the Islamic religion is and what does it teaches. These all are just the products of the so called super powers game and interfering in the internal affairs of the inferior countries especially Islamic countries and oil rich states.No true Muslim can support such groups or barbaric action even done by the so called super powers in pursuit of fulfilling their missions in the targeted countries.
umer zaman, sharjah, Pakistan
Added 13:58 September 14, 2014
With the killing of hundreds of innocent civilians, women and children, military and media personnel, aid workers, the conflicts in the Middle East countries are now taking a new direction. The world has been witnessing the decade-long atrocities which still continue, regretfully not been looked into with its due merit. Though the world is developed in diverse aspects, the very basic of living is still not been given its due respect by a section of the people. The policies of various administrations are led to creating such an extreme situation, beyond the limit of a barbaric culture which cannot tolerate anymore. There should be a collective approach to tackling the growing menace of brutality that a civilised society cannot any more tolerate.
Ramachandran Nair, Ruwi, Oman
Added 13:36 September 14, 2014
This is definitely a deplorable act aimed at spreading terror to be condemned by every human being . but I would go on to say that this was bound to happen and US + Britain has to take responsibility as being the forces responsible for the present situation . I am also a bit surprised to see that media is either gagged or biased on this issue , you cannot keep a spring down by stepping on it . the world needs to mediate and bring peace about , but this is what meddling in international issues brings about . for me an innocent life taken is like killing the whole humanity regardless of the origin of that Human , there cannot be degrees of value to a human life .
ahmed, dubai, United Arab Emirates
Added 12:56 September 14, 2014
Meanwhile Israel ended up killing innocent children in Palestine in front of the world, while US and UK remained dead silent. Hypocrites...
Imran, Au Dhabi, United Arab Emirates
Added 12:06 September 14, 2014
So sad Execution of David. The west should realize & correct their preferences before this menace plagues the world
abid mustafa, Peshawar, Pakistan
The problem is that we the West have the wrong military doctrine. This is not World War Two. There are no battles between military minds.
We are down a back alley facing a bunch of muggers and we are fighting by Marquiss of Queensbury rules.
The politically correct mass make it impossible for this situation not to exist. Rule upon rule upon rule which means the west can never win despite having the means.
Those means include nuclear chemical biological and air fuel weapons. Cluster bombs, land mines and a level of uncompromising brutality against the enemy that only armed forces can muster.
If a soldier gets it wrong and videos the death of some scum so f
king what? He is just a guy making a little misjudgement. He shouldn't be charged with muder. Instead there should be a statement saying this is how our guys roll when you kill their comrades and put their body parts on display in the local village.
Yes it is nasty. Yes it is barbaric.
Enemy. We don't even call these people the enemy. Politicians, journalists, soldiers don't callthem the enemy.
What are these people?
Brutal violent military action will sadly kill innocents. innocents are already losing their lives. I would rather those Innocents were not innocents on a British Tube train.
I would rather no Innicents died.
I have lived in Islamic nations and know many British Islamic people. "Islam is a religion of peace" may have washed 13 years ago, maybe even after 7/7. After 9/11 my distraught Muslim neighbour stopped me in the street to apologise. There was no need back then. He hadn't done it but he felt shame and anger.
It is time now for people like him to act, to stop saying sorry, to show their evil brethren that what they do is not acceptable. Anyone can condemn. Few have the guts to act. A little less conversation ......a little more action. Show us you really care by turfing these people their teachers and those who support them out of their communities. Hand them to the authorities if you like.
It is time to act, to deal with these people with unparalleled brutality. A few "smart" bombs that can't be dropped if the bad guys hide in a village or Mosque won't do it. They do not observe the Geneva Convention, why should we.?
We are down a back alley facing a bunch of muggers and we are fighting by Marquiss of Queensbury rules.
The politically correct mass make it impossible for this situation not to exist. Rule upon rule upon rule which means the west can never win despite having the means.
Those means include nuclear chemical biological and air fuel weapons. Cluster bombs, land mines and a level of uncompromising brutality against the enemy that only armed forces can muster.
If a soldier gets it wrong and videos the death of some scum so f
king what? He is just a guy making a little misjudgement. He shouldn't be charged with muder. Instead there should be a statement saying this is how our guys roll when you kill their comrades and put their body parts on display in the local village.Yes it is nasty. Yes it is barbaric.
Enemy. We don't even call these people the enemy. Politicians, journalists, soldiers don't callthem the enemy.
What are these people?
Brutal violent military action will sadly kill innocents. innocents are already losing their lives. I would rather those Innocents were not innocents on a British Tube train.
I would rather no Innicents died.
I have lived in Islamic nations and know many British Islamic people. "Islam is a religion of peace" may have washed 13 years ago, maybe even after 7/7. After 9/11 my distraught Muslim neighbour stopped me in the street to apologise. There was no need back then. He hadn't done it but he felt shame and anger.
It is time now for people like him to act, to stop saying sorry, to show their evil brethren that what they do is not acceptable. Anyone can condemn. Few have the guts to act. A little less conversation ......a little more action. Show us you really care by turfing these people their teachers and those who support them out of their communities. Hand them to the authorities if you like.
It is time to act, to deal with these people with unparalleled brutality. A few "smart" bombs that can't be dropped if the bad guys hide in a village or Mosque won't do it. They do not observe the Geneva Convention, why should we.?
Edited by wildcat45 on Monday 15th September 08:38
The worst aspect of all this for me is that despite how often Cameron & Obama quite rightly go on camera saying about how revolting these barbaric acts of terrorism are, there is a definite marginal return to scale issue for the people doing the beheadings.
If going forward this were to continue at the same pace, then regardless of how shocked people pretend to be there would soon be a certain amount of desensitization toward it although I'm sure many people will pretend otherwise.
If going forward this were to continue at the same pace, then regardless of how shocked people pretend to be there would soon be a certain amount of desensitization toward it although I'm sure many people will pretend otherwise.
wildcat45 said:
Patrick Bateman said:
Drivel.
OK, your view. How would you deal with this situation?It's not too dissimilar to what the west did in Dresden, Hiroshima, Nagasaki etc - an overwhelming show of force where it's not really required. The bottom line is that most actual war wins are achieved by sinking to depths of evil/destruction that the enemy is unable or unwilling to stoop.
The real problem with this particular situation is that it is all wrapped up in layer after layer of potential nightmares, for example:
a) future oil/energy supplies
b) political correctness
c) lack of public appetite for another war
d) the financial cost during a time of fiscal austerity
e) diminished military capability of the UK in particular
f) the fact that mainland Britain has got thousands of potential home-grown extremists living amongst us
There are many more. Too many to list. The powers that be are walking an extremely fine line - struggling between doing the 'right' thing for Haines' and Henning's families (and making a strong statement about how we react to British citizens being killed while overseas) versus the war weary public.
Horrible situation.
Fighting ?IS just in the middle east wont help, we will get attacks here, we will be attacked here in any case. Appeasement is not an option despite the preference to pretend it isn't happening and make it all go away.
What I don't understand, well I do but it frustrates me is why there is no exposure to the funding IS receives from sympathisers in the UK. For every Jihadist that travelled there are a number of sympathisers doing their part by sending money. Is the intelligence boon we get from those transfers too great to meaningfully expose and go after them?
What I don't understand, well I do but it frustrates me is why there is no exposure to the funding IS receives from sympathisers in the UK. For every Jihadist that travelled there are a number of sympathisers doing their part by sending money. Is the intelligence boon we get from those transfers too great to meaningfully expose and go after them?
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