US journalist beheaded by ISIS...

[Jimbeaux]

TheRealFingers99 said:

Jimbeaux said:

Point out specifically where I insulted anyone on here based upon their religion.

Jimbeaux said:

As to past intellectual accomplishments of those you mention, well, they seemed to have bred that "infidelity"out over the centuries.

Since we were talking of the Muslims of the ME, and you're referring to "infidelity", how else would you like that taken?

Jimbeaux said:

As for your second comment, they are proving me correct; again, regional, not religious.

Don't get you.

Jimbeaux said:

You need to try a little harder.

Aye aye captain.

Really? That is your retort? That logic was wired together as dodgey as the Lucas electricals on on a '75 Jaguar.

[TheRealFingers99]

Jimbeaux said:

Really? That is your retort? That logic was wired together as dodgey as the Lucas electricals on on a '75 Jaguar.

But substantially better than those of a 74 Dodge Charger!

[Jimbeaux]

ISIS does not like being kicked out of the 1st place spotlight by a virus, therefore, watch for some increased stupidity from them to get back to center stage.

[B17NNS]

Jimbeaux said:

ISIS does not like being kicked out of the 1st place spotlight by a virus, therefore, watch for some increased stupidity from them to get back to center stage.

I was thinking along similar lines today. How long to they usually leave between beheading videos? We're due another I reckon.

[Jimbeaux]

B17NNS said:

Jimbeaux said:

ISIS does not like being kicked out of the 1st place spotlight by a virus, therefore, watch for some increased stupidity from them to get back to center stage.

I was thinking along similar lines today. How long to they usually leave between beheading videos? We're due another I reckon.

Not sure but sadly, we are coming due. They might even ramp it up a bit this time around by beheading a child or crucifying someone, since that is becoming increasingly popular with them.

Edited by Jimbeaux on Tuesday 21st October 13:51

[B17NNS]

I fear for John Cantlie. I think the purpose of his videos is so that we get to know him. The act will be much harder for us to stomach that way.

[hornetrider]

B17NNS said:

I fear for John Cantlie. I think the purpose of his videos is so that we get to know him. The act will be much harder for us to stomach that way.

Sadly I agree.

[KareemK]

hornetrider said:

B17NNS said:

I fear for John Cantlie. I think the purpose of his videos is so that we get to know him. The act will be much harder for us to stomach that way.

Sadly I agree.

Yes, its inevitable I fear.

[egor110]

Jimbeaux said:

ISIS does not like being kicked out of the 1st place spotlight by a virus, therefore, watch for some increased stupidity from them to get back to center stage.

Trouble is the more they do it the less impact it has, we become slightly more hardened each time?

[Mermaid]

egor110 said:

Jimbeaux said:

ISIS does not like being kicked out of the 1st place spotlight by a virus, therefore, watch for some increased stupidity from them to get back to center stage.

Trouble is the more they do it the less impact it has, we become slightly more hardened each time?

Must confess thought we had found a cure for IS. Must check out the inside pages.

[TheRealFingers99]

Kobane's defenders ally with Syria's mainstream opposition.

Looks like a formal declaration of what's been going on on the ground in Syria for some time.

[knitware]

There hasn't been too much news recently, are the captors and the captives dead through US airstrikes?

[maxxy5]

TheRealFingers99 said:

Kobane's defenders ally with Syria's mainstream opposition.

Looks like a formal declaration of what's been going on on the ground in Syria for some time.

It was part of the requirements that turkey laid out before they would help the kurds - that they ally themselves with the syrian opposition.

[photosnob]

knitware said:

There hasn't been too much news recently, are the captors and the captives dead through US airstrikes?

No.

Would be more value in saying how the Americans killed their own hostage.

They are probably waiting for the right time to release the next video. They are running out of hostages so are having to ration them now. That sounds awful but is likely to be the truth in it.

[benjj]

photosnob said:

No.

Would be more value in saying how the Americans killed their own hostage.

They are probably waiting for the right time to release the next video. They are running out of hostages so are having to ration them now. That sounds awful but is likely to be the truth in it.

I don't think that's the case. They apparently have quite a haul of hostages from a wide spectrum of places.

I suspect they're currently negotiating the safe(ish) release of groups and are busy engaging with various governments who are willing to horse trade with terrorists.

I suspect over the next week or so we'll see more barbarity played out on LiveLeak etc.

There is one comment above about the beheadings losing their shock factor and that we're becoming hardened to them. I think there is some merit in that. The worst part of that is it will give root to harder, more extreme reactions from IS.

[jmorgan]

They get more from western hostages than the locals. They are after global effect, it will continue and they will play off governments against each other.

[TheRealFingers99]

maxxy5 said:

TheRealFingers99 said:

Kobane's defenders ally with Syria's mainstream opposition.

Looks like a formal declaration of what's been going on on the ground in Syria for some time.

It was part of the requirements that turkey laid out before they would help the kurds - that they ally themselves with the syrian opposition.

Well, maybe. The FSA have been there for at least 2 or 3 weeks, fighting alongside the Kurds. Seems that the alliance doesn't include all factions of the FSA (some of whom will probably want a Syria drawn on the pre civil war borders). The Kurds were certainly fighting them earlier.

The alliance does raise the possibility that the PKK will fight outside their own turf.

Two thoughts occurred late last night.

1. Under almost any other circumstances the Republicans would be screaming "Obama re-arms Marxist Terrorist Group".

2. Turkey wants a buffer zone. One of the maps of historic Kurdistan shows exactly that -- Kurdistan as a complete buffer zone between Turkey and Iraq (running to the Mediterranean and in some versions, even to the Persian Gulf, providing a buffer zone between Iran and Iraq .....................)

[Jimbeaux]

B17NNS said:

I fear for John Cantlie. I think the purpose of his videos is so that we get to know him. The act will be much harder for us to stomach that way.

True, the impact would be more profound.

[Jimbeaux]

knitware said:

There hasn't been too much news recently, are the captors and the captives dead through US airstrikes?

I giggle at how it is always "Coalition" airstrikes, but when we are discussing our own possibly being caught in the bombing, it suddenly becomes "American" airstrikes.

[Jimbeaux]

photosnob said:

knitware said:

There hasn't been too much news recently, are the captors and the captives dead through US airstrikes?

No.

Would be more value in saying how the Americans killed their own hostage.

They are probably waiting for the right time to release the next video. They are running out of hostages so are having to ration them now. That sounds awful but is likely to be the truth in it.

This is likely the case, at least partially. They may be engineering something to ramp up the horror factor, like a crucifixion video that shows a hostage dying slowly or some such barbarism. There is also the possibility that they are too busy running for their lives to shoot a video.

Edited by Jimbeaux on Tuesday 21st October 14:00