I've just bought a car with new Autogrip 308's
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r11co said:
Yes, it is quite important to make sure than when you are unjustly discrediting something you make it clear that you are in fact generalising and therefor talking ste.
It is about time some of the tyre companies started threatening forum posters with legal action for discrediting their products using nothing more than inaccuarate subjective memories as evidence.
I was clearly expressing an opinion, and was obviously exaggerating for effect. Somehow I doubt anyone is thick enough to take that as some kind of well-considered statement of fact; perhaps you are the exception?It is about time some of the tyre companies started threatening forum posters with legal action for discrediting their products using nothing more than inaccuarate subjective memories as evidence.
Edited by r11co on Thursday 21st August 13:36
Bennet said:
Just drive to the conditions. The quality of your tyres is one of the conditions. I've been using arrow speeds for 18 months and I haven't even come close to dying.
I think that's very true until something unexpected happens. If another driver does something idiotic or - whisper it - you yourself fail to anticipate something then the Ling Longs suddenly seem like less of a bargain.I tend to think the same thing about driver aids. Traction control and ESP tend to be there to save the driver from themselves (in which case I have limited sympathy) but ABS can be priceless if someone else suddenly puts you in a dangerous situation.
CarAbuser said:
Those companies are probably just happy that nobody has sued them for making dangerous tyres.
If what you say is true (ie. that they are making dangerous tyres) then someone would have done it by now, ergo you are also talking crap.aka_kerrly said:
Whilst I wouldnt hand over my own money for them I would still rather collect a new car with 4 matching brand new tyres than have someone try and convince me having a mix of say two 5 year old Goodyears with 2mm of tread a 4 year old Yokohama with 4mm and a 2 year old Pirelli with 3mm is going to offer better performance.
Brands are everything to tyre safety though, don't ya know.....
Edited by r11co on Thursday 21st August 14:55
Oilchange said:
Frankly the quality of anything Chinese is questionable...
Not for a long time now.It is about time we drew a line under this prejudice for Chinese goods. For the generation before us it was Japanese stuff, and look where pretending their products were questionable and ours were righteous got us.....
It is worrying the number of people who say these tyres or any other budget tyres like acceleras or achilliess are not "that" bad.
Yes the dam well are.
They are just about acceptable in the dry and would struggle to tell the difference between them and a premium tyre but only in steady circumstances at a slow speed.
Try doing an emergency stop or pressing on or going at motorway speeds and you WILL see the difference. You would have to be a fool not to.
In the rain it is a different story - I would never ever drive a car in bad weather with cheap tyres. I have purchased a couple of used cars in my time with these sorts of tyres and after having them on for a couple of days they were thrown straight in the bin. I didn't even bother selling them on even with 7mm tread on them. The less on the road the better for me and others!
As a worse case you should get a mid range tyre - one day you will regret buying cheap tyres. You really don't want that sort of day to come.
Yes the dam well are.
They are just about acceptable in the dry and would struggle to tell the difference between them and a premium tyre but only in steady circumstances at a slow speed.
Try doing an emergency stop or pressing on or going at motorway speeds and you WILL see the difference. You would have to be a fool not to.
In the rain it is a different story - I would never ever drive a car in bad weather with cheap tyres. I have purchased a couple of used cars in my time with these sorts of tyres and after having them on for a couple of days they were thrown straight in the bin. I didn't even bother selling them on even with 7mm tread on them. The less on the road the better for me and others!
As a worse case you should get a mid range tyre - one day you will regret buying cheap tyres. You really don't want that sort of day to come.
hora said:
So I've driven in rain, bad suffers etc etc and I've put off having them replaced as they aren't snap-happy, slide at all etc etc.
They are actually quite good. At odds with zero-info out there on them.
Who makes them?!!!
They're the same company as FullRun.They are actually quite good. At odds with zero-info out there on them.
Who makes them?!!!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fullrun_Tyre
Suffice it to say that they're available by the container via AliBaba.
http://uk.alibaba.com/products/tyre-autogrip.html
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