A metre of black snot! TADTS - really?

A metre of black snot! TADTS - really?

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roseytvr

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1,788 posts

178 months

Thursday 21st August 2014
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Anyone else get this? In fairness its mainly condensation and dries up fairly quickly but I cant recall my original engine doing it. Mapper tells me not to worry!!


Chromoflaire

28 posts

149 months

Thursday 21st August 2014
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Yep, mines the exact same, running a wee bit rich.
Jetwash oot!

Chromoflaire

28 posts

149 months

Thursday 21st August 2014
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Yep, mines the exact same, running a wee bit rich.
Jetwash oot!

griffdude

1,824 posts

248 months

Thursday 21st August 2014
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Nope, mine doesn't do that at all. I blame that dodgy induction system you've got. Chuck it in the bin, in fact, my bin.

Hope that helps laugh

450Nick

4,027 posts

212 months

Thursday 21st August 2014
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It's just a tad rich on idle; mappers often do this as it's easier to get a stable idle on the rich side. You can achieve the same stable idle with less fuel (and no black marks) but it takes a bit more time to get right. Mine actually managed to pass an MOT with a supercharger and no cats a few weeks ago purely as it has the fuel tuned to be lean(ish) but stable on idle.

roseytvr

Original Poster:

1,788 posts

178 months

Thursday 21st August 2014
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griffdude said:
Nope, mine doesn't do that at all. I blame that dodgy induction system you've got. Chuck it in the bin, in fact, my bin.

Hope that helps laugh
Lol - perhaps one day you can show me how to drive it!!

roseytvr

Original Poster:

1,788 posts

178 months

Thursday 21st August 2014
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450Nick said:
It's just a tad rich on idle; mappers often do this as it's easier to get a stable idle on the rich side. You can achieve the same stable idle with less fuel (and no black marks) but it takes a bit more time to get right. Mine actually managed to pass an MOT with a supercharger and no cats a few weeks ago purely as it has the fuel tuned to be lean(ish) but stable on idle.
and mine managed to fail an MOT on emissions with new cats fitted and a so called MOT map - back to the engone builder and his turnkey solution for me - Lambda all over the place!

TV8

3,122 posts

175 months

Thursday 21st August 2014
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Hi Ian, mine does this from time to time. Proper failed the last MOT as well. On the retest, it failed on the fumes it pumped into the garage and the tester had to put an air line throughout the test pipe to purge it. An ECU reset sorted it!

450Nick

4,027 posts

212 months

Friday 22nd August 2014
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roseytvr said:
and mine managed to fail an MOT on emissions with new cats fitted and a so called MOT map - back to the engone builder and his turnkey solution for me - Lambda all over the place!
It's all in the mapping - a bad map can make a great car feel like crap. I've used a few and frankly the only one I'd consistently recommend is Emerald - they really do know what they're doing.

Sardonicus

18,961 posts

221 months

Saturday 23rd August 2014
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450Nick said:
It's all in the mapping - a bad map can make a great car feel like crap. I've used a few and frankly the only one I'd consistently recommend is Emerald - they really do know what they're doing.
That may be true but .........you cant MAP your car Nick to go through an honest CAT test its just not possible (with no CATS fitted) to reach Lambda while keeping other readings in spec i.e CO HC your testing stations machine needs calibrating no question frown but you got your test so that cool thumbup basically you tune for one reading while the others go through the roof you just cant pull them into line for the CAT test (you can get close but) if you could the manufactures would have been doing it cat-less years ago whilst saving millions and modern engines are so much more cleaner/efficient combustion wise than the old RV8. Not a knock mate just an observation wink


Edited by Sardonicus on Saturday 23 August 22:45

ChilliWhizz

11,992 posts

161 months

Monday 25th August 2014
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roseytvr said:
Anyone else get this? In fairness its mainly condensation and dries up fairly quickly but I cant recall my original engine doing it. Mapper tells me not to worry!!

Yep, regular feature.... Ruined one pair of nice trainers whilst engine warming up and putting roof in boot frown

Have always thought it would be fun to park in front of a nice shiny white Porsche overnight... 'Oh, sorry mate, didn't realise I'd parked quite so close' biggrin

OK, that's really childish, and I'd never do something like that.. whistle

450Nick

4,027 posts

212 months

Wednesday 27th August 2014
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Sardonicus said:
hat may be true but .........you cant MAP your car Nick to go through an honest CAT test its just not possible (with no CATS fitted) to reach Lambda while keeping other readings in spec i.e CO HC your testing stations machine needs calibrating no question frown but you got your test so that cool thumbup basically you tune for one reading while the others go through the roof you just cant pull them into line for the CAT test (you can get close but) if you could the manufactures would have been doing it cat-less years ago whilst saving millions and modern engines are so much more cleaner/efficient combustion wise than the old RV8. Not a knock mate just an observation wink


Edited by Sardonicus on Saturday 23 August 22:45
True, but I thought the emissions regs were much much looser for a 1990's TVR than anything new... I have seen it nearly pass before without any special tuning and have heard of plenty of other cars doing similar. I usually just take it to a mates who holds the probe several feet from the exhaust to be sure, but this time the MOT inspector turned up while my car was being tested so they had to do it the legit way. Expected a fail and it actually passed without any problem!

johnzo

526 posts

267 months

Thursday 28th August 2014
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Somewhere I have a photo of my Mother's white garage doors with two prominent black marks on after starting my TVR backed up to it ...

johnzo

526 posts

267 months

Thursday 28th August 2014
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Somewhere I have a photo of my Mother's white garage doors with two prominent black marks on after starting my TVR backed up to it ...