Editing for crappy monitors

Editing for crappy monitors

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ExPat2B

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2,157 posts

200 months

Tuesday 26th August 2014
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Over the holidays, I have been visiting family and friends, and showing them some of my photos on their PC's/Laptops.

It has been a real eye opener - the quality of their screens are horrific. The bottom end of the black scale is usually invisible. The top end highlights all blend into one bright highlight. The colors are often horribly oversaturated, instead of smooth shades of colour they render them as one oversaturated glowing area, or just plain wrong.

Is there a consensus ? Is it better to compress the histogram and desaturate the images for public consumption so they are viewable correctly ?

I feel its almost like mastering music for poor quality speakers.

MysteryLemon

4,968 posts

191 months

Tuesday 26th August 2014
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It's a big problem.. Especially with people judging a photographers work via facebook or their website these days. If their monitor is set up crap, they'll see crap.

Nothing you can do about it really apart from do your best to make it look right for you. Luckily, the general public seem to like over saturated, over contrasty images, so what you've seen may work in your favour anyway.

Simpo Two

85,422 posts

265 months

Tuesday 26th August 2014
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I send my photos out so they look right to me, and nobody's complained yet.

GravelBen

15,685 posts

230 months

Tuesday 26th August 2014
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What about editing with a less-than-amazing monitor? Just trust the histogram?

Simpo Two

85,422 posts

265 months

Tuesday 26th August 2014
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And colour and white balance and sharpening?

Gemm

1,833 posts

215 months

Tuesday 26th August 2014
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It's not just the calibration that you should be concerned about. I was shocked in the past to see someone I know was still using 800x600 resolution for her monitor! My low-res images in 800px (my usual resolution for the web) seen at full screen weren't very pretty! lol

RobDickinson

31,343 posts

254 months

Tuesday 26th August 2014
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Simpo Two said:
I send my photos out so they look right to me, and nobody's complained yet.
This, what else can you do?

Occasionally my images are destined for some lower quality use, big screen or narrow gamut print and I make adjustments then if I need to.

james_tigerwoods

16,287 posts

197 months

Wednesday 27th August 2014
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GravelBen said:
What about editing with a less-than-amazing monitor? Just trust the histogram?
How should it look after editing??

I use a 2007 MacBook with Lightroom and Windows 7and it's pretty good, but I don't know how to calibrate the screen properly....

MartinP

1,275 posts

238 months

Wednesday 27th August 2014
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james_tigerwoods said:
I use a 2007 MacBook with Lightroom and Windows 7and it's pretty good, but I don't know how to calibrate the screen properly....
Something like a Spyder screen calibrator isn't too expensive and is very easy to use. Both my Macbook and iMac screens are quite blue without calibration. If you want to be sure what you see on the screen really represents the image then it's worth doing.

andy-xr

13,204 posts

204 months

Thursday 28th August 2014
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Above anything else, when publishing to the web, always have the colour space in sRGB as a final 'web ready' image. I found this out after some ProPhoto weirdness using a colour managed program which looked horrific on a website.

As for people's monitors, cant control it, just gotta go with what looks right to the original, everything else will be too blue on an uncalibrated screen so it's kind of relative to what people get used to seeing

GravelBen

15,685 posts

230 months

Thursday 28th August 2014
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MartinP said:
Something like a Spyder screen calibrator isn't too expensive and is very easy to use.
Cheers, will look into that. My screen *seems* ok to my eye, but its hard to know with no real comparison!

james_tigerwoods

16,287 posts

197 months

Thursday 28th August 2014
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GravelBen said:
MartinP said:
Something like a Spyder screen calibrator isn't too expensive and is very easy to use.
Cheers, will look into that. My screen *seems* ok to my eye, but its hard to know with no real comparison!
How much and where from?

ExPat2B

Original Poster:

2,157 posts

200 months

Thursday 28th August 2014
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I think I have found a reasonable way to compress the Histogram so that lower quality monitors can view it properly.

Change Image mode to LAB Colour, then add a curves layer, then drag the white point down 5% and and black point up 5%



This raises the black point and lowers the white point in a liner fashion across the image without affecting the colours.

Compressing the saturation is little more complicated. In RGB mode

Create two layers

Set the top layer to mode difference, then desaturate it.

Then merge the two layers together, and desaturate the resulting layer.

Then auto level the black and white layer.

This gives you a black and white mask of the most saturated areas of the image. Select all and copy.

You can then create a new hue/saturation adjustment layer, then press alt key to select the mask of this new layer, and paste the black and white saturation mask as its mask. Set the saturation of this layer to -5

This allows you to desaturate only the most saturated parts of the image, leaving the rest of it untouched.

I did a few tests and it appears to greatly improve the view quality of images on poor quality monitors.

MartinP

1,275 posts

238 months

Thursday 28th August 2014
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james_tigerwoods said:
How much and where from?
If you Google 'Spyder 4 Express', you'll find them for around £65