At what point is a car not within the lines of a space?
Discussion
Roadside parking.
Imagine a pedantic traffic warden. At what point is he within his right to lawfully administer a parking ticket?
Examples assume the rear of the car under scrutiny.
1) Body overhanging the line eg. Boot. With whole rear wheel clearly within the line.
2) Rear wheel trailing edge perpendicular to the line
3) Bottom centre of rear wheel perpendicular to the line?
In simple terms, does the whole car need to be within the l8nes or just the wheels? If wheels, what portion of the wheel?
Im sure the highway code says something about it but the online version has proved fruitless.
Imagine a pedantic traffic warden. At what point is he within his right to lawfully administer a parking ticket?
Examples assume the rear of the car under scrutiny.
1) Body overhanging the line eg. Boot. With whole rear wheel clearly within the line.
2) Rear wheel trailing edge perpendicular to the line
3) Bottom centre of rear wheel perpendicular to the line?
In simple terms, does the whole car need to be within the l8nes or just the wheels? If wheels, what portion of the wheel?
Im sure the highway code says something about it but the online version has proved fruitless.
Rovinghawk said:
Consider this: a standard parking bay is 4.8m long.
Not quite, the recommended _minimum_ is 4.8mhttp://www.planningni.gov.uk/downloads/parking-sta...
Rovinghawk said:
A Mk3 Mondeo estate is 4.88m long.
Longer than an E70 X5... Ridiculously large car is big. Hold the front page.tenpenceshort said:
The position of the wheels should be irrelevant; if you overhang your space and prevent someone else using the one behind or in front you're guilty of the mischief the rules are designed to deal with.
I got three points for this.Body of a van overhanging despite no problem with where the wheels were. It relates to the whole vehicle.
would it be different depending on where it is? eg where there are marked spaces clearly overhanging one by 1-2 ft will get you in trouble but what about if you are parking on street, no defined bays but you are the first/last along the road where double yellows start/ end. can you overhang then as long as the wheels are in?
This has got me going.
I assumed the wheels should not be over the lines,albeit not comfortable leaving a body overhang.
Thing is depends also on how the person in front or behind has parked,if they have parked over the line you might have to to get in the space.( I know that is not a defence in law.)
Also if you have a decent motor you don't want to park too close to another car in case the drivers a plonker and backs into you when he exits clumsily.
Of course none of this makes any difference to the law but it is part of everyday city driving.
I assumed the wheels should not be over the lines,albeit not comfortable leaving a body overhang.
Thing is depends also on how the person in front or behind has parked,if they have parked over the line you might have to to get in the space.( I know that is not a defence in law.)
Also if you have a decent motor you don't want to park too close to another car in case the drivers a plonker and backs into you when he exits clumsily.
Of course none of this makes any difference to the law but it is part of everyday city driving.
I have always thought that no part of the car should overhang the outside edge of the white line for normal box space.
If it was an end space on the kerbside and double yellows were involved in the equation, I think it would depond on how draconian the traffic warden was, but I have never seen a ticket on a car where the tyres were fully inside the lines.
If it was an end space on the kerbside and double yellows were involved in the equation, I think it would depond on how draconian the traffic warden was, but I have never seen a ticket on a car where the tyres were fully inside the lines.
If you lived in Paris not so long ago you would expect to be backed into or driven into at both ends by people parking and unparking. The idea was to leave your handbrake off on the flat and steering straight so your car moves up and down with the arrival and departure of others. Dents were expected. It's also what bumpers were for. Not sure how it works with these daft plastic bumpers. You should be able to get city bumpers or add on fenders for cars like the Roo bars on 4x4s. IMO
I once drove into a car park lightly covered in snow on a Saturday morning. When i returned, i had a ticket, the snow had thawed and i was clearly not within the space.
I appealed the ticket, but was informed that it was reasonable for me to have cleared some snow to work out where the lines were painted.
The warden had clear guidance and did need to display any reasonableness.
I appealed the ticket, but was informed that it was reasonable for me to have cleared some snow to work out where the lines were painted.
The warden had clear guidance and did need to display any reasonableness.
I got a ticket in London for my bike - It was back in the late 90s when there were free parking bays for bikes, I had parked in one near Leicester Square and came back to find some bugger had moved my bike a bit to get their moped in next to it, and I had a ticket for the silhouette of my bike being outside the lines by 3 inches (seriously, the parking arse must have used a plumb-bob to find I was outside the line). I appealed it on the grounds that my bike had been moved by an unknown party but I was told to sod off. £40.
What was especially galling was I'd even exchanged pleasantries with a parking warden who was checking the other bikes whilst I was parking, so if it was him who ticketed me half an hour later he should have realised someone had moved it.
What was especially galling was I'd even exchanged pleasantries with a parking warden who was checking the other bikes whilst I was parking, so if it was him who ticketed me half an hour later he should have realised someone had moved it.
Roofless Toothless said:
I took my life in my hands once and crossed a busy road in Naples. When I got to the other side I realised I was stuck out there because the cars were parked bumper to bumper as far as you could see both ways!
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