WIll you still buy a GT4 if it's a 2l turbo

[franki68]

My opc reckons its the 3.8 l engine ,so basically no one really knows.

[gtsralph]

I m not sure whether this has been posted before but 3.4l power levels seem to be managed between 981S, GTS and Carrera via the ECU

See Post #11

http://www.planet-9.com/981-cayman-boxster-modific...

[Steve Rance]

Interesting question and interesting voting results

[mrdemon]

Steve Rance said:

Interesting question and interesting voting results

very, there will a lot of people dropping out if they go turbo it seems

[Callughan]

Probably the 3.4 from the current 991 once the gen 2 is launched and boggo Carrera has different engine.

[iantr]

This is all a bit "Angry Frank" for me.

"Oi, Porsche. No! Not you as well...."

www.youtube.com/watch?v=ETqncRvQHWk

[DiscoColin]

mrdemon said:

Steve Rance said:

Interesting question and interesting voting results

very, there will a lot of people dropping out if they go turbo it seems

But will that actually matter? If it is to be a strictly limited production then they only need enough buyers to take the allocation, in which case they can pretty much build and sell whatever they like. It isn't as if whatever they go with will detract from the certainty that (a) it will be the fastest Cayman that they have ever offered and (b) it will be excellent to drive by any objective measure (given that the car that it is based on is essentially the class benchmark).

Much like the 991 GT3 found a market not extensively comprising owners of the previous cars, the hot Cayman could just as easily find a market as a PDK flat 4 turbo with very few previous Cayman R owners taking them on.

[shoestring7]

n17ves said:

Depsite the early indications of a 3.8 450bhp twin turbo

The sweet spot for road cars is ~200bhp/tonne so a 1200kg/280bhp 'R' with a nicely responsive motor and 40mpg will do me just fine. You power monsters can wait for the GT2.

SS7

[mrdemon]

200bhp/ton is pants.

[n17ves]

shoestring7 said:

n17ves said:

Depsite the early indications of a 3.8 450bhp twin turbo

The sweet spot for road cars is ~200bhp/tonne so a 1200kg/280bhp 'R' with a nicely responsive motor and 40mpg will do me just fine. You power monsters can wait for the GT2.

SS7

Is that a fact? ...maybe if you like waiting an eternity between gear changes!

IMHO 300/bhp tonne with a responsive, normally aspirated engine (manual of course) is the sweet spot for a road/occasional track car. 380bhp will do just nicely for the gt4

[KMF]

shoestring7 said:

The sweet spot for road cars is ~200bhp/tonne so a 1200kg/280bhp 'R' with a nicely responsive motor and 40mpg will do me just fine. You power monsters can wait for the GT2.

SS7

you need to try an Ariel Atom with 320HP and 550kg. now that will bring a trouser movement for you

[mrdemon]

n17ves said:

Is that a fact? ...maybe if you like waiting an eternity between gear changes!

IMHO 300/bhp tonne with a responsive, normally aspirated engine (manual of course) is the sweet spot for a road/occasional track car. 380bhp will do just nicely for the gt4

on the plus side our Cayman R's will sky rocket in price if it is a turbo, looks like I will have to keep it a bit longer and put the super car ownership on hold a bit.

[FrankCayman]

mrdemon said:

Steve Rance said:

Interesting question and interesting voting results

very, there will a lot of people dropping out if they go turbo it seems

I think you over estimate the views of Pistonhead forums compared to the real world.

Lets face it...in the past 5 years, Pistonheads Porsche forum has shrunk considerably.

You would be surprised how many people make a judgement on a Porsche purchase and spec that don't rely/care about the opinions of PH forum.

How many people who voted would actually be in the market for a GT4?

Just trying to give some sense of perspective to a poll like this in the car enthusiasts world

[shoestring7]

KMF said:

shoestring7 said:

The sweet spot for road cars is ~200bhp/tonne so a 1200kg/280bhp 'R' with a nicely responsive motor and 40mpg will do me just fine. You power monsters can wait for the GT2.

SS7

you need to try an Ariel Atom with 320HP and 550kg. now that will bring a trouser movement for you

Will it? I've piloted vehicles with 190bhp and less than 300kgs. But in-between very occasional blasts of full throttle acceleration for a couple of seconds it pretty much defined frustration on the road.

SS7

[andymw]

For me: as long as it corners like it's on rails, sounds great and goes faster than the 911's I will be happy. Personally I would like to see turbo and hybrid one day (like the latest F1 cars and the 918). Mind you ... if they do a normally aspirated 3.8 litres flat 6 Cayman I would be queuing at the door tomorrow as I'm just about to pick up my GTS

[mollytherocker]

andymw said:

For me: as long as it corners like it's on rails, sounds great and goes faster than the 911's I will be happy. Personally I would like to see turbo and hybrid one day (like the latest F1 cars and the 918). Mind you ... if they do a normally aspirated 3.8 litres flat 6 Cayman I would be queuing at the door tomorrow as I'm just about to pick up my GTS

I would say that yours is the common view of the typical new buyer.

[ORD]

mollytherocker said:

I would say that yours is the common view of the typical new buyer.

I agree. I doubt a turbo 4 pot could sound 'great', though. If it has a sound actuator (or whatever they are called), I'll shed a silent tear.

[Carl_Docklands]

I think it comes down to the old question 911 owners face, more power with turbo or less power with Na.

I don't think 4 pot is a deal breaker if it brings supercar pace with it.

With the new golf producing 400hp Porsche cannot release a range topping halo cayman with a turbo running anything less than that figure so, the question is not just a pitch between Na vs turbo engine types, It's also less power vs more. In the turbos favour.

I think a 425bhp turbo cayman would sell well.

[EricE]

Carl_Docklands said:

I think a 425bhp turbo cayman would sell well.

Porsche knows this too, that’s why they try not to build one.

[mrdemon]

golf producing 400hp is a concept car, you cannot buy it.

we can all tune cars, my golf in a frock was 430bhp and you can tune those to 650bhp.

the 4 pot will never sound nice though, I don't mind a turbo, but on a 4 pot !!!