2 For 1 Offers
Discussion
Countdown said:
In the vast majority of cases they aren't defrauding you. They are able to price the second item cheaper because they have recovered their "fixed" costs in the sale of the first item. They will also have obtained a discount from the supplier for the sme reason (for FMCG the marginal cost will be lower as supply increases).
BOGOF et al works fine for us. The way we play the game is - if we need/want something on BOGOF we buy it. If we don't need/want we don't buy.. Cunning eh
I never said defrauded. To me the first item is overpriced to allow them to discount the second. Nothing on this thread has convinced me otherwise. If the price of the first item increased at the start of a BOGOF campaign it would all look a bit obvious.BOGOF et al works fine for us. The way we play the game is - if we need/want something on BOGOF we buy it. If we don't need/want we don't buy.. Cunning eh
bad company said:
Not defrauding no. But they are inflating the price of one item to subsidize the second (usually unwanted) item.
Well, no. You understand the concept of margins and taking a hit, surely? Well I guess you don't but that's surprising for a grown up.What an odd thread. Sales must be a nightmare for you!
Edited by iphonedyou on Thursday 28th August 20:19
Tiggsy said:
op today....
that apple is £1
I'll take it
you can have a second for free if you like
what???? you can keep your apple - I'm outta here and off to moan on the web
Good example. It would be madness to pay £1 for a single apple so clearly the retailer would be using that sale to be able to offer the second apple FOC. that apple is £1
I'll take it
you can have a second for free if you like
what???? you can keep your apple - I'm outta here and off to moan on the web
Edited by bad company on Thursday 28th August 22:49
bad company said:
Countdown said:
In the vast majority of cases they aren't defrauding you. They are able to price the second item cheaper because they have recovered their "fixed" costs in the sale of the first item. They will also have obtained a discount from the supplier for the sme reason (for FMCG the marginal cost will be lower as supply increases).
BOGOF et al works fine for us. The way we play the game is - if we need/want something on BOGOF we buy it. If we don't need/want we don't buy.. Cunning eh
I never said defrauded. To me the first item is overpriced to allow them to discount the second. Nothing on this thread has convinced me otherwise. If the price of the first item increased at the start of a BOGOF campaign it would all look a bit obvious.BOGOF et al works fine for us. The way we play the game is - if we need/want something on BOGOF we buy it. If we don't need/want we don't buy.. Cunning eh
Say you go to harrods and buy an apple for £1. The taxi fare cost £10. Total cost is £11.
If you buy 2 apples it will cost you £12 (£10 + £1 + £1).
The first apple was 1000% overpriced. It's just all the other costs that need to be factored in.
National Tyres had "2 for 1" on Avon tyres. Good, I think, my wifes' car is looking a bit thin on front.
Priced the ZV5 through our local garage for £61 each fitted.
National tyres price for 2x Avon zv5's fitted, £120....
So they might be BOGOF, but they start off at twice the price!
So we're paying £2 more to support our local independent.
Priced the ZV5 through our local garage for £61 each fitted.
National tyres price for 2x Avon zv5's fitted, £120....
So they might be BOGOF, but they start off at twice the price!
So we're paying £2 more to support our local independent.
bad company said:
I never said defrauded. To me the first item is overpriced to allow them to discount the second. Nothing on this thread has convinced me otherwise. If the price of the first item increased at the start of a BOGOF campaign it would all look a bit obvious.
Even if this were true - I still don't see how this affects the OPs position.If they had happened to walk into Boots on a normal day when the offer wasn't on - they would have just bought the tablets at whatever the shelf price was (even if it was overpriced to allow them to discount at some future point).
The fact that the OP went in on a day when the offer was on doesn't change the fact that they would have paid the same price for one packet regardless.
bad company said:
Nothing on this thread has convinced me otherwise.
Soo 100 people saying that they don't inflate the price of the first item hence you are paying the same doesn't 'convince you otherwise'?Interesting stubborn stance.
It's not antihistamines you need for those sniffles its a tissue and to stop being a massive crybaby
blindswelledrat said:
Soo 100 people saying that they don't inflate the price of the first item hence you are paying the same doesn't 'convince you otherwise'?
Interesting stubborn stance.
It's not antihistamines you need for those sniffles its a tissue and to stop being a massive crybaby
Why do you think you can win an argument by name calling?Interesting stubborn stance.
It's not antihistamines you need for those sniffles its a tissue and to stop being a massive crybaby
Countdown said:
The first item isn't overpriced. It's priced at full cost recovery. This allows the second item to be priced at marginal cost recovery.
Say you go to harrods and buy an apple for £1. The taxi fare cost £10. Total cost is £11.
If you buy 2 apples it will cost you £12 (£10 + £1 + £1).
The first apple was 1000% overpriced. It's just all the other costs that need to be factored in.
Say you go to harrods and buy an apple for £1. The taxi fare cost £10. Total cost is £11.
If you buy 2 apples it will cost you £12 (£10 + £1 + £1).
The first apple was 1000% overpriced. It's just all the other costs that need to be factored in.
though I used to get into arguments with parents over this at uni - I would buy only what I needed, screw the offers. With a student dwelling of course, stuff you don't need is not stuff you have space for, so an extra thing would not provide any extra utility - arguably negative utility.
Similarly, buy a small bottle of water or coke or packet of sweets and they're expensive relative to bulk. If it doesn't provide you proportionately extra value, don't buy them.
bad company said:
Nothing on this thread has convinced me otherwise.
I worked in a shop that did this sort of offer all the time and the price never went up to allow the multibuy to be subsidised.With your complete unwillingness to accept any contradictory evidence, have you considered a career doorkncoking for the Jehovah's Witnesses?
Countdown said:
V8LM said:
BOGOF and the like is fine except when it involves medicines.
why excepting medicines?BOGOF, BOGOHP typically fully funded by manufacturer to encourage use/loyalty of their product against their competition. Retailers claim full discount from suppliers, and end up making a higher margin on the single items sold where the end customer has not taken benefit of the offer.
wolves_wanderer said:
I worked in a shop that did this sort of offer all the time and the price never went up to allow the multibuy to be subsidised.
With your complete unwillingness to accept any contradictory evidence, have you considered a career doorkncoking for the Jehovah's Witnesses?
Can you just clarify, as there are several syllables in a few of those words:With your complete unwillingness to accept any contradictory evidence, have you considered a career doorkncoking for the Jehovah's Witnesses?
When you ran a
Mermaid said:
Such promotions are to encourage consumption.
BOGOF, BOGOHP typically fully funded by manufacturer to encourage use/loyalty of their product against their competition. Retailers claim full discount from suppliers, and end up making a higher margin on the single items sold where the end customer has not taken benefit of the offer.
BOGOF, BOGOHP typically fully funded by manufacturer to encourage use/loyalty of their product against their competition. Retailers claim full discount from suppliers, and end up making a higher margin on the single items sold where the end customer has not taken benefit of the offer.
wolves_wanderer said:
I worked in a shop that did this sort of offer all the time and the price never went up to allow the multibuy to be subsidised.
With your complete unwillingness to accept any contradictory evidence, have you considered a career doorkncoking for the Jehovah's Witnesses?
So the shop just decided to give away the second item for nothing? As it was presumably not a charity shop this sounds unlikely.With your complete unwillingness to accept any contradictory evidence, have you considered a career doorkncoking for the Jehovah's Witnesses?
The funding has to come from somewhere - if not the shop then the manufacturer.
bad company said:
So the shop just decided to give away the second item for nothing? As it was presumably not a charity shop this sounds unlikely.
The funding has to come from somewhere - if not the shop then the manufacturer.
SHops do this to encourage shoppers into their shops.The funding has to come from somewhere - if not the shop then the manufacturer.
The average person spends, hypothetically, £100 in a supermarket.
If they advertise BOGOF on a popular item it will encourage a number of people to visit their shop that otherwise wouldn't have, each spending £100. The cost of doing this is almost nothing, it just means they make a negligible amount on that particular product (although in many cases, as stated, the supplier also contributes for brand strength. It's not rocket science.
Just to clarify, in case you bother reading this and can stop worrying about it.
WHat you are describing used to happen even though it was generally illegal (or at least contrary to fair trading practices)
A couple/few years ago the Office of Fair trading made a massive thing out of it and effectively put a stop to it.
What you are saying doesn't happen.
Edited by blindswelledrat on Friday 29th August 11:07
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