RE: Audi RS6 Avant: PH Fleet

RE: Audi RS6 Avant: PH Fleet

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Dave Hedgehog

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14,541 posts

203 months

Friday 29th August 2014
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Stan 24v said:
In order to get the look of the Aussie car, Chris, you just need a tin of Plastidip. Its a quick spray on rubber solution which just peels off when you no longer want it, that way you get the look you want and its 100% reversible without any fear of damaging the paint, invalidating your warranty or annoying Audi (any more than previously).....................plus it will look superb!!

http://www.plastidip.co.uk/eStore/index.cfm?Plasti...
a guy had to respray his elise after the plastidip took the paint off when he removed it smile



Blakewater

4,303 posts

156 months

Friday 29th August 2014
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Seems odd that Audi wouldn't provide the black gloss trim, especially as Top Gear's long term RS6 has it with the carbon package.

Patrick Bateman

12,143 posts

173 months

Friday 29th August 2014
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NomduJour said:
braddo said:
Nice car and colour, but the window tinting looks st. I can't understand the popularity of privacy glass.

Mild window tinting for all side and rear glass - fair enough, but the blacked out glass excluding the front door glass.... Looks st and so little practical benefit.
Absolutely. Only for ghetto bluds who is well VIP innit or people with ugly kids.
When you're being tail-gated at night and there are Xenons brighter than the sun in your mirror, especially from a Range Rover, it is most definitely handy.

Dave Hedgehog

Original Poster:

14,541 posts

203 months

Friday 29th August 2014
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Patrick Bateman said:
NomduJour said:
braddo said:
Nice car and colour, but the window tinting looks st. I can't understand the popularity of privacy glass.

Mild window tinting for all side and rear glass - fair enough, but the blacked out glass excluding the front door glass.... Looks st and so little practical benefit.
Absolutely. Only for ghetto bluds who is well VIP innit or people with ugly kids.
When you're being tail-gated at night and there are Xenons brighter than the sun in your mirror, especially from a Range Rover, it is most definitely handy.
auto dimming mirror wink

and the RS6 has LED lights as an option, they are like 2 suns compared to HIDs biggrin



-Z-

5,980 posts

205 months

Friday 29th August 2014
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So come on Chris, what do you prefer F10 M5 or this RS6? Bearing in mind the RS6 is waaay more expensive, look at the standard spec an M5 comes with!

I sometimes contemplate if I would like an RS6 as I watch the TC light blinking in my M5, but then those thoughts disappear as soon as I engage MDM mode, turn it into a complete animal and hustle it along some B-roads.

Now they all have V8TTs can we have a Driven+ triple test M5 Vs E63 Vs RS6?

-Z-

5,980 posts

205 months

Friday 29th August 2014
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Dave Hedgehog said:
a guy had to respray his elise after the plastidip took the paint off when he removed it smile
cough *Lotus paint quality* cough

wink

Patrick Bateman

12,143 posts

173 months

Friday 29th August 2014
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Dave Hedgehog said:
auto dimming mirror wink

and the RS6 has LED lights as an option, they are like 2 suns compared to HIDs biggrin
Insufficient in my experience of them in such a scenario. They help but it's still uncomfortable.

yellowstreak

613 posts

151 months

Friday 29th August 2014
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Max_Torque said:
We should probably be glad that someone is still making cars like this that are so "sledgehammer to a nut" and that someone is stupid enough to spend their money on a new one. I can't see it happening for THAT much longer......

#itsalldoomandgloom
Why? Are all the rich people in the world about to disappear? I see more and more luxury cars being produced in Europe and cheaper consumer cars being produced in BRICK economies (okay maybe not Russia, but BICK doesn't sound right).

drmark

4,794 posts

185 months

Friday 29th August 2014
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Chris Harris said:
Lack of heated seats as standard is criminal in my book.
Heated front memory seats are standard.
Rear heated seats are extra
teacher

Adrian E

3,248 posts

175 months

Friday 29th August 2014
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the black edition version of the front grill will sort the chrome at the front - won't be ridiculous money and could be sold on at end of loan smile

sisu

2,576 posts

172 months

Saturday 30th August 2014
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robinessex said:
Going back to the beginning, why do manufacturers dish out 'show' cars with trim options/bits that you can't actually buy? I bet if Chris had cash in his pocket to buy instead, he'd have got his black trim when he threatened to walk from the showroom.
You could have exactly the same as this, there is nothing unrepeatable, this is all UK spec. I have had customers bring in a Bianchi Celeste roadbike that we matched the car paint to or interior leather in the same colour and grade of leather as the Hermes bag their wife had.
You don't need to walk out like a 12 year old girl there is a configurator for that gives you that choice on their website. But lets get things straight Chris, Dan or you aren't paying for it, they are being loaned the car, it is owned by Audi UK and yes you might find it difficult finding this spec on Leaseplan or your company car there is a simple answer to this ....


Axionknight

8,505 posts

134 months

Saturday 30th August 2014
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Dave Hedgehog said:
The B8 RS4 is a very poor daily driver compared to the RS6, even ignoring that dynamic suspension mode which makes the RS3 appear to have soft fluffy marshmallow suspension the biggest problem is Audi have tuned the V8 for hard driving (and it is a truly epic engine when your on it) but it makes for a very bad real world engine as its pretty much dead below 4k rpms, the RS6 on the other hand (and the RS3 to a slightly lesser extent) will melt the tyres with a light jab of the loud pedal from tick over.

Audi have been testing a biturbo V6 with a reported 550bhp output so hopefully this will end up in the next RS4 which should make it far more flexible for every day driving. Although it will probably be 550 in the RS6 and detuned to 4 something for the RS4
Can a 400bhp+ V8 really be "dead" below 4000rpm? Hardly struggling to keep up with traffic is it?

jamieduff1981

8,022 posts

139 months

Saturday 30th August 2014
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Davey S2 said:
jamieduff1981 said:
Whatever the appeal of this car is, it goes completely over my head. Especially in this colour which would have been dismissed from a board meeting in the Morris Minor factory for being st.

Sorry Chris - I wouldn't drive this if you gave it to me. It's just bland embodied on 4 wheels.

When a car looks this non-descript, who cares how fast it goes or how little brains are needed to drive it because of its AWD. I utterly reject any notion that it's better in winter too because tyres this wide are lethal on snow and ice. If your RWD car doesn't want to move, at least you can't crash it when unable to stop at a T-junction on a gentle downhill slope.
You seem to have missed the whole point of cars like these. The fact that they are non descript yet very fast and easy to drive are precisely why so many people like them. Not everyone who likes performance wantas the attention that comes with driving somethibg exotic (although most owners will probably have other performance cars as well).


I can't see the point in having so much power in a big estate car when a 535d Touring has all the performance you realisticly need on the road, especially whith a family in the car and dog in the boot but I can still see the attraction.

If my Euromillions came up one of these would be on the short list as an everyday smoker.

Fast family cars I get. Why you'd want one of these - in raincloud grey - I don't.

I would never buy any Audi - I don't like anything they make past or present. The RS6 just seems to be the absolute dullest of a breed though.

Patrick Bateman

12,143 posts

173 months

Saturday 30th August 2014
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Axionknight said:
Dave Hedgehog said:
The B8 RS4 is a very poor daily driver compared to the RS6, even ignoring that dynamic suspension mode which makes the RS3 appear to have soft fluffy marshmallow suspension the biggest problem is Audi have tuned the V8 for hard driving (and it is a truly epic engine when your on it) but it makes for a very bad real world engine as its pretty much dead below 4k rpms, the RS6 on the other hand (and the RS3 to a slightly lesser extent) will melt the tyres with a light jab of the loud pedal from tick over.

Audi have been testing a biturbo V6 with a reported 550bhp output so hopefully this will end up in the next RS4 which should make it far more flexible for every day driving. Although it will probably be 550 in the RS6 and detuned to 4 something for the RS4
Can a 400bhp+ V8 really be "dead" below 4000rpm? Hardly struggling to keep up with traffic is it?
Yeah, even not having driven one I find this statement a bit off.

sisu

2,576 posts

172 months

Saturday 30th August 2014
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My S8 has the same engine as this RS6 and it is quick enough

gizlaroc

17,251 posts

223 months

Saturday 30th August 2014
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All modern cars, other than small 1 litre city cars, are mapped for 98ron.
They will run on 95ron but they will retard the timing, they have knock sensors and will knock back immediately the moment 98 is diluted, but will only advance when it is just 98 in there.

I know on my 335i it was showing 370bhp on the first map, and then when we tried the new map a week later it was only showing 348bhp, which was weird as it was meant to be 380bhp. It was only after the third run on the rolling road that I suddenly remembered my missus had filled the car up. A quick phone call confirmed that she had just put 95 ron in the car, very red faced I told the tuner and agreed to go back when I had filled up again, which I did, 378bhp.

The other thing is consumption, it will reduce on 95. I know on our 2.8i Z3 it is 25mpg average on 95 and 28mpg on 98.
When 98 was £1.10 compared with 99p for 95 it was obviously costing you more, but now there is only 3-4% price increase and maybe 10-15% better mpg it is a no brainer to use 98 ron.

AMG say not to use full throttle when you have not managed to put 98 ron in their cars, I think that says a lot.

Patrick Bateman

12,143 posts

173 months

Saturday 30th August 2014
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Where do you get 98 RON? Pretty sure I've only seen 97 RON with Esso and Shell.

MissChief

7,095 posts

167 months

Saturday 30th August 2014
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gizlaroc said:
All modern cars, other than small 1 litre city cars, are mapped for 98ron.
They will run on 95ron but they will retard the timing, they have knock sensors and will knock back immediately the moment 98 is diluted, but will only advance when it is just 98 in there.

I know on my 335i it was showing 370bhp on the first map, and then when we tried the new map a week later it was only showing 348bhp, which was weird as it was meant to be 380bhp. It was only after the third run on the rolling road that I suddenly remembered my missus had filled the car up. A quick phone call confirmed that she had just put 95 ron in the car, very red faced I told the tuner and agreed to go back when I had filled up again, which I did, 378bhp.

The other thing is consumption, it will reduce on 95. I know on our 2.8i Z3 it is 25mpg average on 95 and 28mpg on 98.
When 98 was £1.10 compared with 99p for 95 it was obviously costing you more, but now there is only 3-4% price increase and maybe 10-15% better mpg it is a no brainer to use 98 ron.

AMG say not to use full throttle when you have not managed to put 98 ron in their cars, I think that says a lot.
Local Shell stations charge 8p a litre more for VPN+ over the normal Unleaded everywhere I've been.

djc206

12,244 posts

124 months

Saturday 30th August 2014
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Axionknight said:
Dave Hedgehog said:
The B8 RS4 is a very poor daily driver compared to the RS6, even ignoring that dynamic suspension mode which makes the RS3 appear to have soft fluffy marshmallow suspension the biggest problem is Audi have tuned the V8 for hard driving (and it is a truly epic engine when your on it) but it makes for a very bad real world engine as its pretty much dead below 4k rpms, the RS6 on the other hand (and the RS3 to a slightly lesser extent) will melt the tyres with a light jab of the loud pedal from tick over.

Audi have been testing a biturbo V6 with a reported 550bhp output so hopefully this will end up in the next RS4 which should make it far more flexible for every day driving. Although it will probably be 550 in the RS6 and detuned to 4 something for the RS4
Can a 400bhp+ V8 really be "dead" below 4000rpm? Hardly struggling to keep up with traffic is it?
As the owner of a B8 RS4 (with 20 inch wheels and privacy glass *ducks*) I can confirm that there is more than enough grunt to cope with daily driving below 4000 rpm. Yes the engine comes alive at much higher revs and sounds better there too you really don't need to go above 4000 to see pretty much any other car off at the lights.

Now comparing it to an RS6, yes it's nowhere near as good. But then it's £20k cheaper....

I would have preferred the RS6, what man buying an estate wouldn't want 550hp+ V8 and a sub 4 second 0-60 but sadly I couldn't really afford the upgrade.

dukebox9reg

1,570 posts

147 months

Saturday 30th August 2014
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Patrick Bateman said:
Where do you get 98 RON? Pretty sure I've only seen 97 RON with Esso and Shell.
A bit behind the times

The current V Power is 99. The old Optimax was 98.

BP is 97RON

Tesco Momentum is 99RON