brake upgrades to competition standard

[tvrmallorca]

any ideas on what will fit on a 3000m to upgrade the brakes at the front? i.e. vented, grooved discs, ap racing????

want to keep with wolf race alloys.

[Brummmie]

Decent pads and fluid would be a start, fitting pads from Carbone Lorraine, Pagid etc, with a fluid to take the extra heat.
This is competition standard for FIA cars, depends what competition you are going for though?

[plasticpig72]

4 pot calipers and ventilated disks

[bluezeeland]

install some ferodo pads, leave the rest alone...............

[urraco62]

plasticpig72 said:

4 pot calipers and ventilated disks

here : http://www.fossewayperformance.co.uk/vented-brake-...

[Slow M]

tvrmallorca said:

any ideas on what will fit on a 3000m to upgrade the brakes at the front? i.e. vented, grooved discs, ap racing????

want to keep with wolf race alloys.

There are three basic ways.

1.) Use bolt-on calipers/rotors.

2.) Use bolt-on rotors, and find calipers that will work, and machine adapters.

3.) After taking careful measurements of the particular Wolfie you wish to use, and after long, confusing deliberations, with your Brembo and AP reps, purchase rotors that are on Aluminium hats, along with the appropriate calipers, amd design new mounting plates, to mount to the uprights.

That third option doesn't seem worthwhile, if you are staying with a narrow wheel.

If I were to contemplate those Fosseway things, I would do a fair day's due dilligence, on them.

What Wolfies are you so keen on keeping? If they wre the Wolfrace look Compomotives, I would understand you better, as I believe those were 15s, but I may well be wrong.

Best,
B.

[plasticpig72]

the 4 Pot brake set on my 3000S were supplied by Adrian Venn Exactly TVR on 4th Aug 1999, they work well and the system has been filled with Silcone

[prideaux]

I have 4 pot fitted from a early Toyota landcruser with Dot 4 could do with silicone as I did loose them once on the LBL going down the Stelvio with overheating but only happened once and we had to stop and let the fluid cool which I changed later just changed my braking style to using the gear box more and it has not happened again but we where driving very hard to do that.
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[Slow M]

prideaux said:

I have 4 pot fitted from a early Toyota landcruser . . .
A

I believe these are steel. I would prefer something lighter.

Best,
B.

[prideaux]

Slow M said:

prideaux said:

I have 4 pot fitted from a early Toyota landcruser . . .
A

I believe these are steel. I would prefer something lighter.

Best,
B.

Yes they are and was an upgrade that people where doing about 10 years ago I believe however there are other upgrades that are better or at least different they work very well though and I have a lifetimes supply of pads in the spares box as I found a dealer clearing out his old Toyota stock at less than £5 a set so no plans to change when there are more interesting things to get on with.
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[Slow M]

urraco62 said:

here : http://www.fossewayperformance.co.uk/vented-brake-...

They look like these, except for the label.

prideaux said:

. . . I wish I could take better pictures my Baby at Zolder 2013 . . .

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Edited by prideaux on Thursday 21st August 22:16

Best,
B.

[anonymous-user]

I run alloy AP CP5200 4 pots with vented and slotted 330mm discs (bell and rota) up front.

285 rear solid slotted discs with alloy AP twin pot callipers.

Snug fit under 15" rims.

SRF fluid, 5/8" master cylinders front and rear, adjustable brake bias AP 01 pads.

Edited by anonymous-user on Wednesday 3rd September 09:13

[Slow M]

Wow! 13" under 15"! Snug indeed!!!

You make me feel hopeful, that my .70" masters aren't too far off.

Best,
B.

Edited by Slow M on Thursday 4th September 07:28

[DavidY]

Ex 1993 Nissan Touring Car Discs (test miles only), vented and cross drilled, AP 4 pot calipers from RS200 (very light), custom bell, ferodo pads. Would just fit behind a 14" wheel but shown here behind a 15".

[anonymous-user]

Slow M said:

Wow! 13" under 15"! Snug indeed!!!

You make me feel hopeful, that my .70" masters aren't too far off.

Best,
B.

Edited by Slow M on Thursday 4th September 07:28

Some material had to come off the calliper Bernard.

Its snugger than something very snug indeed

[anonymous-user]

Adrian@ said:

So snug that you cannot put balance weights on the inside face of the rims...IMHO materials are king on this subject, pretty 4 pots are just pretty four pots, if you cannot use the VERY best of current day materials.
[/footnote]

I've not got a problem with balance weights Adrian, but then the inner rim is quite deep. Nor do I have a problem with disc deflections as the pad sweeps most of the disc.

Materials are a factor but hardly the only consideration, design for use and use as intended are also considerations.

I buy the best I can afford (can't quite go to mag calipers ) and I leave the decision to optimise design and material selection to peolpe who really undertsand the braking business. My car is a race car, the OP asked about brakes for competition. The calipers I use upfront are designed for that use, the bells and rotas are similar to that used on the early Tuscan challenge cars, but again, built by AP when they were given all the necessary information applicable to my car required to make design decisions.

I foolishly bought a rear disc road car conversion for the rear, it didn't fit well, the rear calipers were far too heavy, the discs also and I didn't need the handbrake facility. That set up won't live on my race car, again, I've bought race car components. With some thought and re-design the disc conversion will grace the rear of an uprated road car..

Edited by anonymous-user on Thursday 4th September 13:07