5 Year Old Cancer Patient Abducted By Parents From Hospital!
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He was not abducted. Abducted means there was an illegal act. There is nothing whatsoever illegal about taking yourself or your minor age children out of hospital.
It is not the decision of the police or the NHS or the doctors if a patient should be forcibly detained in a hospital for compulsory treatment. We do not live in Nazi Germany where medical procedures are enforced on victims regardless of if they want it or not.
It is not the decision of the police or the NHS or the doctors if a patient should be forcibly detained in a hospital for compulsory treatment. We do not live in Nazi Germany where medical procedures are enforced on victims regardless of if they want it or not.
creampuff said:
It is not the decision of the police or the NHS or the doctors if a patient should be forcibly detained in a hospital for compulsory treatment. We do not live in Nazi Germany where medical procedures are enforced on victims regardless of if they want it or not.
Does the law not say otherwise - for example, the recent case of a mother who refused her 7 year old child radiotherapy because she did not believe in conventional medical treatment?McWigglebum4th said:
If they can't do anything for him then as long as the kid isn't in pain why shouldn't they be allowed to escape and let the kid die in peace.
As lets face it more then likely there won't be a happy ending either way
I am no Doctor, but a Cancer patient needing hospital treatment, would, I imagine, be in a lot of pain if he isn't in a place where pain relief can be administered?As lets face it more then likely there won't be a happy ending either way
BlackLabel said:
Does the law not say otherwise - for example, the recent case of a mother who refused her 7 year old child radiotherapy because she did not believe in conventional medical treatment?
Treatment can be enforced if there is a court order ordering treatment. If this has happened then both sides will have had the opportunity to provide their own medical opinions and it will have been heard by an independent party. There is no indication that any of this has happened here.
Newspaper said:
He is receiving constant medical care within the UK due to recent surgery and ongoing medical issues.
So it isn't that they have refused all 'normal' treatment.My money is on there having been a "Your son is almost certainly going to die" conversation and they have chosen to ensure his last few days or weeks are with his family, not piped, tubed and strapped to a bed in the hope of another month or two on top.
I know which I'd chose...
zetec said:
I am no Doctor, but a Cancer patient needing hospital treatment, would, I imagine, be in a lot of pain if he isn't in a place where pain relief can be administered?
We don't know anything. France is hardly a third world destination. They have high-tech things, like hospitals and doctors.
Starfighter said:
I'm hoping the kid in question has a great time at EuroDisney with his whole family.
IF (and it is a big IF) what I suspect is that case is correct I sadly doubt he will get much of a chance before they are spotted given the Media interest. As such his last days may well be spent doing exactly what the family feared they would be.It's a very difficult subject and we have no where near enough information to do anything that sprout theories (it's the PH way) until we do. On the other hand I know that I have been very self aware since a very early age and have always been of the opinion that in a hopeless situation I'm going out with a bang, not a long drawn out and painful whimper.
As ever we don't have enough information to draw conclusions but the hospital are saying he's recovering from surgery and needs care as his feeding machine battery will go flat. So potentially he could starve or, if they try to feed him, aspirate, neither of which are good ways to spend your last days.
Poor little sod, I hope the parents haven't made a terrible mistake.
Poor little sod, I hope the parents haven't made a terrible mistake.
Bill said:
As ever we don't have enough information to draw conclusions but the hospital are saying he's recovering from surgery and needs care as his feeding machine battery will go flat. So potentially he could starve or, if they try to feed him, aspirate, neither of which are good ways to spend your last days.
Poor little sod, I hope the parents haven't made a terrible mistake.
Ah, the medicine man doth speak! Poor little sod, I hope the parents haven't made a terrible mistake.
That is a worry then, unless they have already thought about and catered for that. Interestingly I did see a bit suggesting that he can swallow water and yoghurt so perhaps they are pinning their hopes on that?
Regardless, and as said, we don't have enough facts and so anything posted is subject to adaption by reality. Sitting here about the only conclusion, or excuse for that matter, I can think of for what has been done is on a very distressing cost/benefit analysis with an almost inevitable no win outcome. As posted. A week of fun, a week of pain and done or 2 months of pain - not saying that this is the case here but put that on my table and I'll met you at the top of Space Mountain tomorrow.
The reporting by Hampshire Police (on their feed) and the BBC is a disgrace.
They repeatedly state he was taken without consent.
There are photos of the whole family all over the news like they are criminals.
They are not criminals, they have done nothing illegal and nothing that requires anybodys consent.
The boy has already been subject to extensive medical treatment which indicates anything to do with anti-treatment or anti-blood transfusion Jehovah's Witness stuff is BS.
Do YOU want the state telling you and your family what MUST happen to them in hospital and where you ALLOWED to go?
They repeatedly state he was taken without consent.
There are photos of the whole family all over the news like they are criminals.
They are not criminals, they have done nothing illegal and nothing that requires anybodys consent.
The boy has already been subject to extensive medical treatment which indicates anything to do with anti-treatment or anti-blood transfusion Jehovah's Witness stuff is BS.
Do YOU want the state telling you and your family what MUST happen to them in hospital and where you ALLOWED to go?
Bill said:
Shouldn't the police and hospital do their best for the child, and shouldn't that include protecting the child from poor decisions by the parents?
That would be my take on it.I don't think children should be seen as the 'property' of their parents, who can do with them as they wish.
Obviously we don't have all the facts, or know the parents' mindset, but I would like to think that the relevant services are working in the child's best interests.
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