Threat level severe

[pork911]

Hardly tin foil when threat level raised then PM announces will introduce legislation to make it easier to take passports from people.

[pork911]

...& anyway why any publicly known threat level? What can the public do other than perhaps be concerned nay afraid and therefore gov doing terrorists job for them?

[gpo746]

I agree totally with Toxic Nerve but I doubt he will like why I do
We have been led into some very dark places and it is going to be difficult to get out of them
Dark places such as not wishing to appear racist, stuff such as not wishing to upset certain groups, stuff such as being walked all over us by the types mentioned.
Dark places indeed

[technogogo]

What do people here think about the Quilliam Foundation? They seem, to me, the only group who make sense in seeking to oppose and undermine the extremist ideas with reasoned thinking. While opposing the use of draconian legislation.

I think they have a massive uphill struggle. But I applaud them for trying.

[boxst]

From listening to various sources on the radio etc.. this seems to coincide with the resurrection of the internet / telecommunications snooping bill that was quashed a little while ago.

[onyx39]

There have been some stuff in various places about high profile supermarkets (such as M&S) and Sandhurst RMA as potential targets.

[Zwolf]

rovermorris999 said:

Mermaid said:

I suppose the threat levels have been high since 2003. Was a severe threat level in place at the time of 7/7?

Let's just say you know diddley-squat about what really goes on and what gets prevented.

Would you prefer the security services ignore credible intelligence?

I'll bite, Walter...

Your tone and use of "you" rather than "we" implies you have some insight to which the rest of us mere playground dwellers are not privy, but evidently could benefit from.

Care to enlighten us as to why we're idiots for commenting here, or are you in fact just the same as all of us, but being condescending anyway?

Nobody is saying the intelligence services should ignore and not act upon credible intelligence.

What's being questionned and explored is what use, value or relevance is informing the general public that they are changing the national security alert status which determines behaviour and protocols of the emergency and armed services day to day.

[25NAD90TUL]

Anyone else think this came at a convienient time to avert public gaze from the recent news about South Yorks police and politicians?

[BlackLabel]

25NAD90TUL said:

Anyone else think this came at a convienient time to avert public gaze from the recent news about South Yorks police and politicians?

Whitehall has used terror attacks to bury bad news in the past.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/1823120.stm

Not sure whether they would actually create a terror threat for that purpose though.

[25NAD90TUL]

BlackLabel said:

Whitehall has used terror attacks to bury bad news in the past.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/1823120.stm

Not sure whether they would actually create a terror threat for that purpose though.

There's a difference between creating a terror-threat and creating some rhetoric about a terror-threat no?

[smegmore]

25NAD90TUL said:

BlackLabel said:

Whitehall has used terror attacks to bury bad news in the past.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/1823120.stm

Not sure whether they would actually create a terror threat for that purpose though.

There's a difference between creating a terror-threat and creating some rhetoric about a terror-threat no?

Not forgetting Cameron's egg-on-face moment with one of his minions defecting to UKIP.....

[tumble dryer]

smegmore said:

Not forgetting Cameron's egg-on-face moment with one of his minions defecting to UKIP.....

No, don't forget that.

Oh, wait,


We all did.



Ufkin Shullbit.




Played, beautifully, beyond belief.

TD

[dandarez]

25NAD90TUL said:

Anyone else think this came at a convienient time to avert public gaze from the recent news about South Yorks police and politicians?

Possibly, probably?
Or because this happened also?

'CMD, you know nearly 10,000 coppers won't be on duty because they will all be in Wales at our Nato din-dins?'
'Oh ste yes. Forgot that... be a nice meal and swim. Looking forward to it.
Got it! Raise the terror alert, just in case something goes awry, and I can say told you so.'

And this bit about grabbing passports from suspected nasty people, just heard on the late news that it couldn't be enacted until next year at the earliest, possibly even the year after.

Carry on.


ps 25NADetc - did anyone guess or did you ever divulge which group you were in?

[onyx39]

smegmore said:

25NAD90TUL said:

BlackLabel said:

Whitehall has used terror attacks to bury bad news in the past.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/1823120.stm

Not sure whether they would actually create a terror threat for that purpose though.

There's a difference between creating a terror-threat and creating some rhetoric about a terror-threat no?

Not forgetting Cameron's egg-on-face moment with one of his minions defecting to UKIP.....

Lol., which was followed a day later by the old UKIP candidate arguing with the new UKIP candidate over who was running, which kind of took the edge off off it

[loose cannon]

onyx39 said:

There have been some stuff in various places about high profile supermarkets (such as M&S) and Sandhurst RMA as potential targets.

As someone who works at a similar place the threat is very real
Let's just say people have been sending e mails and trying to enter establishments

[V8 Fettler]

loose cannon said:

onyx39 said:

There have been some stuff in various places about high profile supermarkets (such as M&S) and Sandhurst RMA as potential targets.

As someone who works at a similar place the threat is very real
Let's just say people have been sending e mails and trying to enter establishments

I would assume that has been the case for years, if not decades.

[loose cannon]

V8 Fettler said:

I would assume that has been the case for years, if not decades.

True but it's only the last year or so we have had certain types of people offering to give people lifts into camp
But you carry on thinking the uk is untouchable and hopefully it will be !

[V8 Fettler]

loose cannon said:

V8 Fettler said:

I would assume that has been the case for years, if not decades.

True but it's only the last year or so we have had certain types of people offering to give people lifts into camp
But you carry on thinking the uk is untouchable and hopefully it will be !

Review IRA threats over preceding decades. The UK is vulnerable to threats by various factions, primarily as a result of political incompetence. Fix the problem rather than running around waving arms in the air "Don't panic!"

[loose cannon]

Panic lol not me sir bring on the population adjustment
It's long overdue

[Bill]

BlackLabel said:

25NAD90TUL said:

Anyone else think this came at a convienient time to avert public gaze from the recent news about South Yorks police and politicians?

Whitehall has used terror attacks to bury bad news in the past.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/1823120.stm

Not sure whether they would actually create a terror threat for that purpose though.

Tin foil shares still doing well I see.