Heller 1/72 Fouga CM170 Magister

Heller 1/72 Fouga CM170 Magister

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Eric Mc

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265 months

Monday 1st September 2014
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This might be my next project -




It dates from 1980 - which, to me is modern (the Gnat was from 1964 and the Vampire from 1970).

It's actually a lovely little kit but it does feature raised panel lines - which shows its vintage.

I intend to do an Irish Air Corps version as they were a common sight back back home in the late 1970s and 80s. I remember watching four of them (3/4 of the entire Air Corps fleet) escort the Aer Lingus 747 carrying Pope John Paul II to Ireland in 1979.



72twink

963 posts

242 months

Monday 1st September 2014
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This should be interesting, I built the equally nice but also raised detail Airfix version back in the day. Inspired by the box lid and their visit at the time to Biggin Hill I built it as a Patrouille de France example. Like the Arrows losing their Gnats the Patrouille switching to Alpha Jets, for me, lost them their quirky edge.

AndrewEH1

4,917 posts

153 months

Monday 1st September 2014
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I never knew such a plane existed, bit of an odd looking one!

Eric Mc

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Monday 1st September 2014
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They were quite successful commercially with a number of air forces operating them - the French, West German, Israel, Irish, Austrian etc as well as a number of African and South American air arms.

Oddly, they evolved out of a glider design, which is why they have relatively long wings for a jet.

They were not very fast and the instructor needed a periscope to see over the head of the pupil.

As well as being the mount of the French Patruoille de France aerobatic team,they were also flown by the Belgian Aerobatic Team, Les Diables Rouges.






Even the Irish made up a four ship team with their Magisters - the Silver Swallows -



In the movie version of "Jesus Christ Superstar", Judas gets chased across the desert by a pair of Israeli Air Force Magisters -



There are a number still flying in private hands.

perdu

4,884 posts

199 months

Monday 1st September 2014
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Go on Eric go on go on





wink


No seriously, do. The Magister is one of those iconic early jets and you always do a nice job with them.

Eric Mc

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265 months

Monday 1st September 2014
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A part of the reason I want to build it is to test out the Valejo bright orange I bought for using as dayglo.

And it's about time I built an Irish Air Corps plane in any case.

Murph7355

37,708 posts

256 months

Tuesday 2nd September 2014
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Eric Mc said:
...I remember watching four of them (3/4 of the entire Air Corps fleet) ...
?

Eric Mc

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Tuesday 2nd September 2014
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Murph7355 said:
Eric Mc said:
...I remember watching four of them (3/4 of the entire Air Corps fleet) ...
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2/3 - I'm no good with numbers smile

AER

1,142 posts

270 months

Tuesday 2nd September 2014
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I seem to remember one of them made it into a Bond film, but without googling, I can't tell you which one.

Eric Mc

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Tuesday 2nd September 2014
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You're not thinking of the Bede BD5 in "Octopussy"?


AER

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270 months

Tuesday 2nd September 2014
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nope - definitely V-tailed and black (or dark blue?). Possibly not Bond, now I come to think of it, but Mission Impossible or of that ilk. Now I am confused and Google can't help me, it seems...

edit - I think there may have been a pair of them, from (faulty) memory

edit 2 - chuckling at the tripod holding up Mr Bond's wings...

Edited by AER on Tuesday 2nd September 08:57

16VJay

236 posts

219 months

Wednesday 3rd September 2014
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Eric Mc said:
You're not thinking of the Bede BD5 in "Octopussy"?

I'd love a BD-5 but they're so twitchy and awkward to fly they can't be flown in the UK, think there's a guy in Irish republic has one though.

They were so different to fly Jim Bede had one on the end of a hinged arm on the front of a truck where you could "fly" the BD-5 without being in any danger of really leaving the ground so prospective owners could get the hang of it.

Plus the BD-5J jet version in the pic has the shorter wings making it even worse.


Anyway, back to the Fougas, they're fab too!

Edited by 16VJay on Sunday 7th September 22:02

72twink

963 posts

242 months

Friday 12th September 2014
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I see Airfix have just re-issued their CM170 - with Irish decals too Eric! (I might have to get one for old times sake!)

Eric Mc

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Friday 12th September 2014
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Just saw that too. I think the Heller kit is probably the better of the two - although they are both quite nice little models - taking into account their vintage.

I've got an Airfix one somewhere too.

72twink

963 posts

242 months

Friday 12th September 2014
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I'd always heard that it was 6 of one half a dozen of the other between the two, I'll stick to the Airfix one for nostalgia ........ and prob a Kinetic 1/48th one too wink

Eric Mc

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Friday 12th September 2014
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It looks like a new 1/72 one is due out soon from MPM./Special Hobby too.

It certainly looks like it's going to be Funtime For Fouga Fans.

Eric Mc

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Monday 15th September 2014
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Back from holiday and ready to get started on the Fouga.

As you can see , the basic parts are in a fairly lurid shade of blue plastic. First task will be to spray on a coat of Halfords grey primer on the internal components that will need painting (cockpit, seats etc).
The raised lines are very fine and delicate and hopefully the fit of the parts will be good enough to ensure that not too much rubbing down will be required.




Eric Mc

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Saturday 4th October 2014
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Not really been able to do much on this due to other commitments over the past two weeks.

All I had managed to do prior to my holidays was spray the interior of the cockpit black. I've also polished and dipped the rather large and well detailed canopy.

Eric Mc

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Sunday 5th October 2014
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Progress report -

Main components now assembled and interior completed to the level I'm satisfied with. The cockpit is essentially straight out of the box, the only addition being some straps made from painted Avery labels cut into strips.

True to this era of Heller kits (1979/80 or so) there are virtually no gaps at all and everything clicks together nicely.

Next step will be undercoating the whole model with Halfords Grey Primer - that blue plastic has to go!






72twink

963 posts

242 months

Tuesday 7th October 2014
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Damn you Eric! wink