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moanthebairns

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17,933 posts

198 months

Monday 1st September 2014
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Up at knockhill today, I suspected a little oil leak from the 675 before, but after cleaning it up it looked to be fine, so a new oil and filter on Friday and off to track. I thought it was just from me spilling some when filling it that had got under the casings, it never leaked on the road.

I felt the rear almost go a few times, just all of a sudden but kept it up right, thinking "must have fked that corner up". Weird as hell feeling, no warning.

Get off for the final session, my boot is soaking, so is my right hand side of the bike.

Get it home and find this







I lost half a litre of oil, very lucky.

Is it possible with the damage to the casing that it has cause a hairline crack/pin hole and the oil is pissing out on the track under pressure. Its hard to tell where its coming from but I suspect its that casing.

thatdude

2,655 posts

127 months

Monday 1st September 2014
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Its oossible, yea. Its also possible the cover is warped so that oil is leaking past the seam (if you get me). Degrease the whole area and clean it up, then run the engine and throw lots of talc over it - you should be able to see where the oil is seeping from.

Are there any breathe pipes there that might have ruptured?

moanthebairns

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Monday 1st September 2014
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thatdude said:
Its oossible, yea. Its also possible the cover is warped so that oil is leaking past the seam (if you get me). Degrease the whole area and clean it up, then run the engine and throw lots of talc over it - you should be able to see where the oil is seeping from.

Are there any breathe pipes there that might have ruptured?
Not that im aware of but don't hold me to it.

I heard about talc, what will it show, just it soaking any oil?

bass gt3

10,192 posts

233 months

Monday 1st September 2014
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Do you know exactly where it's coming from??
Hopefully youcan either sanddownthe area andrepair with a liquid metal type filler. Alternatively, maybe source a side casing (if thats the source) from a breakers

moanthebairns

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Monday 1st September 2014
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can say with certainty, that casing is £70

ill clean it up tomorrow and get the baby power on it, if it is then ill just but a new casing, if its not then im fked.

thatdude

2,655 posts

127 months

Monday 1st September 2014
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Yeah, the talc should make the oil visible as a brown or black streak. It'll rinse right off afterwards :-) just lob it everywhere, even a little further away (is that oil filter on ok?) just in case its something you might not realise.

bass gt3

10,192 posts

233 months

Monday 1st September 2014
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Before you go getting new casings,try making it good with a decent liquid/ putty metal product. If you take a moment to prep the area properly,it'llhold as keepthe oil inside no worries.
Give it a try,can only save you 70 quid

podman

8,856 posts

240 months

Monday 1st September 2014
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The first picture is of an crash protection cover that was fitted over the casing , yes?

You need to take that casing off and inspect it and the crankcase around it for any damage/cracks, if it and the engine casing around appears to be fine, re-fit it with a new ( genuine IMHO) gasket( you never know, it may be that it should have a gasket and its not been fitted...) and away you go.

I had a similar leak with a GSXR600 in the past, that did need a new engine case cover , most recently my LC leaked oil from an engine case when first rebuilt, due to the fact the faces of the cases where not pefectly smooth, a new gasket and a thin smear of Loctite gasket sealer cured that one.


moanthebairns

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17,933 posts

198 months

Monday 1st September 2014
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It could just be a gasket, ill degrease it tomorrow and cover in the baby powder I bought.

I don't care about money on this one, I just want it sorted and sorted right, its a track only bike now and I don't want to take the chance.

LoonR1

26,988 posts

177 months

Monday 1st September 2014
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I reckon the casing has just loosened the gasket after the knock that it's had, so that'd be my first thought to replace, although I'd do the casing too, as I like to play it safe.

There's a,so the chance that you haven't tightened the new filter enough. I've done that once. Never again.

Bear in mind I am a mechanical a muppet though.

moanthebairns

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Monday 1st September 2014
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LoonR1 said:
I reckon the casing has just loosened the gasket after the knock that it's had, so that'd be my first thought to replace, although I'd do the casing too, as I like to play it safe.

There's a,so the chance that you haven't tightened the new filter enough. I've done that once. Never again.

Bear in mind I am a mechanical a muppet though.
filter was tightened with a torque wrench, its obviously been weeping for a while as I had a small amount at my casing the last time.


Mr2Mike

20,143 posts

255 months

Monday 1st September 2014
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Maybe the pictures don't show it very well but they don't look lagged in oil at all. The inside of bellypans always look like that after a while, they just collect road grime.

moanthebairns

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Monday 1st September 2014
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Mr2Mike said:
Maybe the pictures don't show it very well but they don't look lagged in oil at all. The inside of bellypans always look like that after a while, they just collect road grime.
Its just the pictures, its very hard to show up.

My boot was covered in it, the casings soaked, your never going to see it particularly well on a photo.

I took a fairing bolt off and it looked like it had been copper slipped it was that bad.

moanthebairns

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17,933 posts

198 months

Tuesday 2nd September 2014
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Ghost bike







ITS fkED, new one ordered £80 odd including gasket.

It came apparent that when up to temperature and on revs that it was dripping quite badly, obscured by the casing protector. The off at Croft must have finished it off.

On a positive note, I drained the oil and it is spotless, not a lick of dirt came out. Mind you it gets changed every two trackdays


LoonR1

26,988 posts

177 months

Tuesday 2nd September 2014
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Then it's not doing its job! Or you're a pussy with the throttle wink

neelyp

1,691 posts

211 months

Tuesday 2nd September 2014
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The skank over the road never tried to snort the tarmac did she?

outnumbered

4,084 posts

234 months

Tuesday 2nd September 2014
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moanthebairns said:
That needs photoshopping.

moanthebairns

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17,933 posts

198 months

Tuesday 2nd September 2014
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LoonR1 said:
Then it's not doing its job! Or you're a pussy with the throttle wink
its turned black from red, but I meant no big fk off bits of metal. To be fair it has only done one track day.

The other basin I use for regular oil changes sits in the garage, its full of dirt, grit, sand and dead spiders.

I know your meant to check your oil to see for swarf, but when your basin is full of st its kinda difficult and I cant be arsed cleaning it.

Edited by moanthebairns on Tuesday 2nd September 14:55

moanthebairns

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198 months

Tuesday 2nd September 2014
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neelyp said:
The skank over the road never tried to snort the tarmac did she?
No but I heard her shout to her pal who was half way up the street. My God I thought I sounded common, I thought it was Mary Doll from Rab C when I heard her talk.

Prof Prolapse

16,160 posts

190 months

Tuesday 2nd September 2014
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Is the baby powder a real thing or did you just like the idea how him making a of himself?