Forum name change?

Poll: Forum name change?

Total Members Polled: 72

No: 79%
Yes: 21%
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eybic

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9,212 posts

174 months

Wednesday 3rd September 2014
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On the back of the split forum thread it's been highlighted that some people may be offended by the name of the forum "Jap Chat" so I wanted to get an idea from you, the users of the forum as to whether you feel the name should be changed, please vote above and the question is:

Do you think the forum name "Jap Chat" should be changed?

Biker's Nemesis

38,620 posts

208 months

Wednesday 3rd September 2014
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No, Jap is short for Japanese, it is not an insult.

Voldemort

6,134 posts

278 months

Wednesday 3rd September 2014
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Biker's Nemesis said:
No, Jap is short for Japanese, it is not an insult.
This.

But we wait with baited breath for the new name reveal regardless frown

LordGrover

33,538 posts

212 months

Wednesday 3rd September 2014
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Not being Japanese I'm not personally offended, but I gather some may. Perhaps a name change would be appropriate, or are we just being oversensitive on behalf of 'others'?
A qualified Yes from me.

ETA: Maybe it's an opportunity to broaden the church and have a name relating to cars of Eastern origin to include Korea, Taiwan, etc?

Edited by LordGrover on Wednesday 3rd September 09:30

Voldemort

6,134 posts

278 months

Wednesday 3rd September 2014
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Shouldn't this be in website feedback? wink

LordGrover

33,538 posts

212 months

Wednesday 3rd September 2014
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Biker's Nemesis said:
No, Jap is short for Japanese, it is not an insult.
No basis for an argument. A similar abbreviation for Pakistani is considered an insult, yet the same for an Australian isn't. confused

Biker's Nemesis

38,620 posts

208 months

Wednesday 3rd September 2014
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LordGrover said:
Biker's Nemesis said:
No, Jap is short for Japanese, it is not an insult.
No basis for an argument. A similar abbreviation for Pakistani is considered an insult, yet the same for an Australian isn't. confused
Context dear boy.


OlberJ

14,101 posts

233 months

Wednesday 3rd September 2014
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It should include other Eastern car manufacturers too IMO.

Biker's Nemesis

38,620 posts

208 months

Wednesday 3rd September 2014
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LordGrover

33,538 posts

212 months

Wednesday 3rd September 2014
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...and I will defend your right to be unhappy. tongue out

PZR

627 posts

185 months

Wednesday 3rd September 2014
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eybic said:
On the back of the split forum thread it's been highlighted that some people may be offended by the name of the forum "Jap Chat"...
"Jap" anything offends my sensibilities. Quite apart from anything else, it is - at the very least - rather gauche. What's wrong with writing - or saying - 'Japan' and/or 'Japanese'?

If there's any question that it might be taken the wrong way (and there is, I assure you) then why not err on the side of caution and avoid it?

It's not Political Correctness, it's just plain old good manners...

PZR

627 posts

185 months

Wednesday 3rd September 2014
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Biker's Nemesis said:
LordGrover said:
Biker's Nemesis said:
No, Jap is short for Japanese, it is not an insult.
No basis for an argument. A similar abbreviation for Pakistani is considered an insult, yet the same for an Australian isn't. confused
Context dear boy.
Straight question, no spin:

In your dealings with Japanese motorcycles, I'm guessing (?) you might have met some Japanese people face to face. If that's the case, would you (did you?) call them 'Jap' to their face, or within their earshot?



Hoofy

76,341 posts

282 months

Wednesday 3rd September 2014
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Could we change it to Nip Natter?

Luke.

10,987 posts

250 months

Wednesday 3rd September 2014
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Hoofy said:
Could we change it to Nip Natter?
You're only saying that because you can. wink

Hoofy

76,341 posts

282 months

Wednesday 3rd September 2014
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Luke. said:
Hoofy said:
Could we change it to Nip Natter?
You're only saying that because you can. wink
yes

biggrin

Thing is, when it was first bandied about ("Jap") back in the 1990s as Japanese performance cars started to make a big impact in the UK, it did make me wince. But in the context of cars, it's dulled.

Edit: hold on - we have "Japanese Cars". confused

Edited by Hoofy on Wednesday 3rd September 11:35

Cyder

7,047 posts

220 months

Wednesday 3rd September 2014
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PZR said:
Biker's Nemesis said:
LordGrover said:
Biker's Nemesis said:
No, Jap is short for Japanese, it is not an insult.
No basis for an argument. A similar abbreviation for Pakistani is considered an insult, yet the same for an Australian isn't. confused
Context dear boy.
Straight question, no spin:

In your dealings with Japanese motorcycles, I'm guessing (?) you might have met some Japanese people face to face. If that's the case, would you (did you?) call them 'Jap' to their face, or within their earshot?
I work for a Japanese OEM and I don't think I've ever heard the word 'Jap' spoken here.

I don't know if they'd find it offensive or not, but even if they did they're so polite that chances are they wouldn't let on that you'd offended them.

PZR

627 posts

185 months

Wednesday 3rd September 2014
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Cyder said:
PZR said:
Biker's Nemesis said:
LordGrover said:
Biker's Nemesis said:
No, Jap is short for Japanese, it is not an insult.
No basis for an argument. A similar abbreviation for Pakistani is considered an insult, yet the same for an Australian isn't. confused
Context dear boy.
Straight question, no spin:

In your dealings with Japanese motorcycles, I'm guessing (?) you might have met some Japanese people face to face. If that's the case, would you (did you?) call them 'Jap' to their face, or within their earshot?
I work for a Japanese OEM and I don't think I've ever heard the word 'Jap' spoken here.

I don't know if they'd find it offensive or not, but even if they did they're so polite that chances are they wouldn't let on that you'd offended them.
Let me assure you that they would, and they do.

Biker's Nemesis

38,620 posts

208 months

Wednesday 3rd September 2014
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PZR said:
Straight question, no spin:

In your dealings with Japanese motorcycles, I'm guessing (?) you might have met some Japanese people face to face. If that's the case, would you (did you?) call them 'Jap' to their face, or within their earshot?
Thinking about it no I have not, on the other hand I have not been offended by being called a Brit, is this not a case of us being offened for them?

Shaoxter

4,069 posts

124 months

Wednesday 3rd September 2014
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Are there actually any Japanese people on here to be offended or is this just another case of being professionally offended on behalf of others?

In context of cars, Jap cars, Jap imports etc. are phrases which are regularly tossed around and it's not really offensive.

PZR

627 posts

185 months

Wednesday 3rd September 2014
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Biker's Nemesis said:
PZR said:
Straight question, no spin:

In your dealings with Japanese motorcycles, I'm guessing (?) you might have met some Japanese people face to face. If that's the case, would you (did you?) call them 'Jap' to their face, or within their earshot?
Thinking about it no I have not, on the other hand I have not been offended by being called a Brit, is this not a case of us being offened for them?
Do you honestly believe that 'Brit' and 'Jap' are equivalent in their implications and in their historical baggage?

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