Who doesn't like big wheels?

Who doesn't like big wheels?

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monthefish

20,443 posts

231 months

Thursday 18th September 2014
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Steve Sutcliffe on the Cayman GTS said:
It's got lovely steering, handling balance, feel...I think it looks just exceptional, really does, especially with the 20" wheels...everything the Cayman does dynamically just blows your mind
http://www.autocar.co.uk/car-video/video-jaguar-f-type-coupe-versus-porsche-cayman-gts

r129sl

9,518 posts

203 months

Friday 19th September 2014
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I don't like big wheels. I like even bigger wheels. But my preference is for bigger wheels than the ones on him next door's A3 TDI.

If I could have some of them (bigger wheels than the ones on him next door's A3 TDI) with privacy glass and some fk off aggressive front bumper/spoiler thing with extra lights, then I could refuse to let even more people out of difficult junctions.

uuf361

3,154 posts

222 months

Friday 19th September 2014
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Just rented a BMW328 in the US and noticed it was running on 17's which I thought odd but the ride was pretty good and I think it was in part as it want sporting the normal 19's or 20's......

daemon

35,817 posts

197 months

Friday 19th September 2014
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Wifies z4 has 19s and my son upgraded his 1 series to 19s from 18s.

I've 16s on my golf. Plenty big for ride comfort on a long commute.


Tunku

7,703 posts

228 months

Friday 19th September 2014
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Every car I've owned has had steel wheels with a tyre profile of 85 to 95 and a rim size of 15 inches maximum.
Comfortable and not so much steelies as squeelies hehe

AM7

268 posts

129 months

Friday 19th September 2014
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My E46 came with 18" M Sport wheels, I must admit the ride quality isn't too bad at all! Much better than expected and actually better than our 2003 Audi A6 that also has 18s, BMW definitely did well on the suspension here. I do like the look of them too, they seem to fit the arches and lines of the car well.

Unfortunately the fronts are 40 profile and rears 35, so they do tend to get damaged quite easily, however my main issue is tyres, which cost a fortune. And weight, especially the rears, they are rather large beasts.. A standard E46 looks completely acceptable on 16s and a sport model like mine would look just as good to me on 17s with a slightly larger profile, whilst working better in the real world.

As for Range Rovers on 22s with elastic bands for tyres yuck

-Pete-

2,892 posts

176 months

Friday 19th September 2014
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r129sl said:
I don't like big wheels. I like even bigger wheels. But my preference is for bigger wheels than the ones on him next door's A3 TDI.

If I could have some of them (bigger wheels than the ones on him next door's A3 TDI) with privacy glass and some fk off aggressive front bumper/spoiler thing with extra lights, then I could refuse to let even more people out of difficult junctions.
You're the kind of person who sees tyres as a protective coating on your alloys, a thin sheet of rubber to avoid any dings. A necessary evil, if only they could make roads out of rubber you could go metal to the limit of your wheelarches. Super-size the wheel arches, who's to say you couldn't have 25" or 30" rims? Every inch gives you that extra height to look down on the steel-wheeled 13" "high profile" low achievers! Am I right? I'm right.

fatboy69

9,372 posts

187 months

Friday 19th September 2014
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My X-Type had horrible 19" alloys when I bought it. They stayed on for less than a week as i bought some rather smart 17's.

Transformed the handling & overall ride.

Swapped them back though when the Jag lunched its engine & I off-loaded it.

Saying that - the 17's are sitting in my garage as they would look stupid on my E36 318. Anyone want a set of 17's with barely used tyres?

Can't remember if they are Kumho's or Falkens. I will check if anyone is interested.

Edited by fatboy69 on Friday 19th September 23:33

muppets_mate

771 posts

216 months

Friday 19th September 2014
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-Pete- said:
r129sl said:
I don't like big wheels. I like even bigger wheels. But my preference is for bigger wheels than the ones on him next door's A3 TDI.

If I could have some of them (bigger wheels than the ones on him next door's A3 TDI) with privacy glass and some fk off aggressive front bumper/spoiler thing with extra lights, then I could refuse to let even more people out of difficult junctions.
You're the kind of person who sees tyres as a protective coating on your alloys, a thin sheet of rubber to avoid any dings. A necessary evil, if only they could make roads out of rubber you could go metal to the limit of your wheelarches. Super-size the wheel arches, who's to say you couldn't have 25" or 30" rims? Every inch gives you that extra height to look down on the steel-wheeled 13" "high profile" low achievers! Am I right? I'm right.
If I've picked up the sarcasm correctly I think a whoosh parrot might be in order smile



-Pete-

2,892 posts

176 months

Friday 19th September 2014
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muppets_mate said:
-Pete- said:
r129sl said:
I don't like big wheels. I like even bigger wheels. But my preference is for bigger wheels than the ones on him next door's A3 TDI.

If I could have some of them (bigger wheels than the ones on him next door's A3 TDI) with privacy glass and some fk off aggressive front bumper/spoiler thing with extra lights, then I could refuse to let even more people out of difficult junctions.
You're the kind of person who sees tyres as a protective coating on your alloys, a thin sheet of rubber to avoid any dings. A necessary evil, if only they could make roads out of rubber you could go metal to the limit of your wheelarches. Super-size the wheel arches, who's to say you couldn't have 25" or 30" rims? Every inch gives you that extra height to look down on the steel-wheeled 13" "high profile" low achievers! Am I right? I'm right.
If I've picked up the sarcasm correctly I think a whoosh parrot might be in order smile
Do they ever travel in pairs?

Escort3500

11,897 posts

145 months

Saturday 20th September 2014
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The ride on my old (E46) 3-Series is noticeably better when I swap over on to the winter tyres on 16" rims from the 18" rims and it's far less prone to tramlining.

VolvoT5

4,155 posts

174 months

Saturday 20th September 2014
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Me, I swapped the 18s originally on my car for some 17s and I actually wish I had gone even smaller with a set of 16".

Big wheels look stupid, spoil the ride and mean that the tyres cost silly amounts of money.... next time you are in a supermarket car park just look at the number of cars with huge wheels and rubber band tyres made by "ditch finders r us".


AlmostUseful

3,282 posts

200 months

Saturday 20th September 2014
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rallycross said:
I agree have had lots of cars with over sized wheels when you put them back to standard they usually drive much better especially if with run flat tyres. Bmw owners seem to be the worst for having too large wheels!
Tell me about it! Took me ages to find an acceptable SE spec 330D after deciding an M:Sport was too harsh for my commute. Even then I had to ditch the runflats, but now it's great on 17's, I daresay 16's would be even better, just not look quite as good.

Sir Fergie

795 posts

135 months

Saturday 20th September 2014
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I personally wouldn't be a fan of big wheels.

but the suspension is definitely another factor to consider - as the modern trend - is to have not only big wheels - but stiffer sports suspension to go with it.

I don't get how people tolerate a hard ride - surely a car is so much more pleasant when its not crashing from bump to bump - and instead gives a decent ride that makes for more relaxed enjoyable everyday driving.

Certainly one can to the other extremes and make suspension too soft - you've then got potential for excess body roll - and passengers getting car sickness - although imo - having suspension that's too stiff won't help the latter either

Kawasicki

13,082 posts

235 months

Sunday 21st September 2014
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On the plus side low profile tyres are more predictable in fast direction changes. I'm also not sure where all this info is coming from that they are less predictable at the edge of adhesion, decent modern tyres are massively forgiving with very benign grip loss at the limit even in super low profiles. They are the opposite of snappy.

Finally, why do tarmac rally cars not use high profile tyres and soft suspension?

xRIEx

8,180 posts

148 months

Sunday 21st September 2014
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Kawasicki said:
Finally, why do tarmac rally cars not use high profile tyres and soft suspension?
They need to run bigger brakes?

sideways man

1,315 posts

137 months

Sunday 21st September 2014
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My skoda fabia estate came with 50 profile tyres. On a familly estate car!

Crashed and thumped over every bump and pothole.
Changed for 60 profile,now its rides reasonably.

Question. Does this invlidate your insurance, if you dont tell them?

Sir Fergie

795 posts

135 months

Sunday 21st September 2014
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Kawasicki said:
On the plus side low profile tyres are more predictable in fast direction changes. I'm also not sure where all this info is coming from that they are less predictable at the edge of adhesion, decent modern tyres are massively forgiving with very benign grip loss at the limit even in super low profiles. They are the opposite of snappy.

Finally, why do tarmac rally cars not use high profile tyres and soft suspension?
is the "less predictable" aspect coming from sports suspension not handling bumps properly????.

ChemicalChaos

10,390 posts

160 months

Sunday 21st September 2014
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sideways man said:
My skoda fabia estate came with 50 profile tyres. On a familly estate car!

Crashed and thumped over every bump and pothole.
Changed for 60 profile,now its rides reasonably.

Question. Does this invlidate your insurance, if you dont tell them?
If you fit aftermarket wheels and don't tell them, the yes they could be anal and invalidate any claims from you.
If you simply fit different (ie. smaller) factory wheels that were offered on that car from new, then no - they don't have the build sheet for you car so they have no idea what style/size wheels it would have been fitted with or had swapped by the dealer.

BarbaricAvatar

1,416 posts

148 months

Monday 22nd September 2014
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I think all oversized wheels look daft, especially when coupled with tyres which are no thicker than a slice of bread.





Small wheels, chunky tyres. THAT's cool.