Black RT

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ninjacost

Original Poster:

980 posts

221 months

Sunday 7th September 2014
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Anyone have any info on the Black RT that's for sale on PH at moment ? tempted to take a look :-)

fatboy18

18,930 posts

210 months

Sunday 7th September 2014
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Looking a the pics, it seems like a nice car, not sure why it has fibreglass side sills, original ones were metal? I can tell you from the pics that the tyres are Michelin Pilot Sport 1s, They stopped making those years ago and then went to Michelin Pilot Sport 2s, these are now being fazed out and another Michelin super Sport tyre is being made in various sizes Not sure its available in 17 inch yet?

The tyres are a Summer tyre only, If you intend to push the car at the odd track day I would budget for new rubber. Tyres are the most expensive part of Viper ownership (if you use the car).

Just looked on the michelin website (uk) and it seems tyres are not currently available in 17"

The size of the fronts should be 275/40 ZR 17
and the Rears should be 335/35 ZR 17

Tire Rack in the USA has the tires listed here http://www.tirerack.com/tires/TireSearchResults.js...

The tyres may have a lot of tread on them but its about Heat cycles, Not tread depth. These cars have a hell of a lot of torque, on a damp road early morning its easy to get into trouble with old tyres wink

Just something to be thoughtful with if you are thinking of buying wink That being said I am currently running old Pilot Sport 1s on my car but its about knowing their limitations wink


ninjacost

Original Poster:

980 posts

221 months

Sunday 7th September 2014
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thanks for the advice very useful :-)


fatboy18 said:
Looking a the pics, it seems like a nice car, not sure why it has fibreglass side sills, original ones were metal? I can tell you from the pics that the tyres are Michelin Pilot Sport 1s, They stopped making those years ago and then went to Michelin Pilot Sport 2s, these are now being fazed out and another Michelin super Sport tyre is being made in various sizes Not sure its available in 17 inch yet?

The tyres are a Summer tyre only, If you intend to push the car at the odd track day I would budget for new rubber. Tyres are the most expensive part of Viper ownership (if you use the car).

Just looked on the michelin website (uk) and it seems tyres are not currently available in 17"

The size of the fronts should be 275/40 ZR 17
and the Rears should be 335/35 ZR 17

Tire Rack in the USA has the tires listed here http://www.tirerack.com/tires/TireSearchResults.js...

The tyres may have a lot of tread on them but its about Heat cycles, Not tread depth. These cars have a hell of a lot of torque, on a damp road early morning its easy to get into trouble with old tyres wink

Just something to be thoughtful with if you are thinking of buying wink That being said I am currently running old Pilot Sport 1s on my car but its about knowing their limitations wink

fatboy18

18,930 posts

210 months

Sunday 7th September 2014
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Here is a link to the International Viper Regestry smile

This gives you a break down of the Chassis Vin number and where to find Engine Nos etc.
http://www.theviperregistry.org/vin.php

This next one is the Build sticker (found on the end of the drivers door)
http://www.theviperregistry.org/mdh.php

General Rule.....Dated numberplates on American cars mean bugger all if its an import. The true date of the car is found using the Vin Number smile

I belive Head Gaskets were suspect on early cars, so ask owner if any engine work has been done.

On Gen 1 Vipers they had two throttle cables, on the Gen 2 cars they changed it to a single cable smile

Looking at the engine bay in the pics, the car has fitted smooth tubes for the throttle bodys, this is good, ask the owner what the filters are in the Air box, K&N are the way to go smile

Mate of mine used to have a Gen 1 RT/10 1994, loved it, Just take your time to get used to the gear shifting, After selecting 1st and 2nd gear, make sure you turn your right hand away from you and push the shifter to the right, If your in 3rd gear and pull the shifter down to select 4th its easy to hit 2nd! (if you don't palm the shifter away wink

Remember these cars were supposed to be a modern day (1994) throw back to the old AC Cobra, a no thrills interior and a bloody big engine biggrin

Engine will have an 8 ltr oil pan, normally running Mobil 1 10-30 smile

Link to fluids and info here smile
http://www.driveviper.co.uk/viper_service_info.htm...

Don't hesitate to ask any questions, happy to help smile

fatboy18

18,930 posts

210 months

Sunday 7th September 2014
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This might be why the car has fibreglass side sills wink

https://www.viperpartsofamerica.com/index.php/prod...

ninjacost

Original Poster:

980 posts

221 months

Sunday 7th September 2014
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Ah I see what you mean ! i'm familiar with left hand drive I own a 205 race car that's a left hooker and i'm pretty used to big power no driver aid cars I owned an ls3 powered ultima gtr that commanded a lot of respect especially in the wet ! ;-) once again thanks for all the info :-)

fatboy18 said:
This might be why the car has fibreglass side sills wink

https://www.viperpartsofamerica.com/index.php/prod...

fatboy18

18,930 posts

210 months

Sunday 7th September 2014
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Earlier one for sale here smile
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/DODGE-VIPER-RT-10-8-0-V1...
Droop Cone air filters and looks like it has a later Gen 2 rear bumper fitted as you can see the centre hole for rear exit exhausts (1996 on).
Note tyre pattern on this car, Later Pilot Sport 2 fitted wink

Dr-Bob

6,629 posts

259 months

Sunday 7th September 2014
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If you are inquiring about this black Gen-1 Viper
http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/d...

It's very well known in the Viper Club UK scene, Current owner has owned for 12yrs or so....

JonathaniTall

51 posts

202 months

Sunday 14th September 2014
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known as in "its a good 'un?" or "you don't want to go there!"

potential viper buyer.....

Dr-Bob

6,629 posts

259 months

Monday 15th September 2014
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Good clean Viper...

Chemical Matty

712 posts

182 months

Tuesday 16th September 2014
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Hi Jon.

How's it going. I didn't quite know what to say when I saw the pic a year or so ago! #guttedforyou

How's the house?

JonathaniTall said:
known as in "its a good 'un?" or "you don't want to go there!"

potential viper buyer.....

Dr-Bob

6,629 posts

259 months

Wednesday 17th September 2014
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Good luck

Dr-Bob

6,629 posts

259 months

Saturday 20th September 2014
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Well ?? Did you get it??

v82fas

158 posts

114 months

Thursday 25th September 2014
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Haha we're all potential viper buyers redfaceP

I'm putting off buying a house until I've owned one...at least for a summer.

fatboy18

18,930 posts

210 months

Thursday 25th September 2014
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Welcome to the Viper forum smile

makser

57 posts

153 months

Saturday 27th September 2014
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Don't suppose there are any meets north of the Watford gap .I have seen a viper or two at tatton park classic and sports car show .A great weekend that one .And they do an American car show weekend too ,in july I think .The sports one is in may .Full camping facilities too .Absolutely thousands attend every year .

fatboy18

18,930 posts

210 months

Sunday 28th September 2014
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We used to do the Supercar meet at Gaydon, but The dynamics of that show have changed now.

Im up for most things, Car has been on display at the NEC Autosport show smile Its worth checking the Events meetings Travel section of Pistonheads to see what's on smile Also check the regional sections. Sunday service runs, PH sometimes go to visit Porsche at Silverstone.

If I'm honest, trouble is not everyone is interested in meeting up regularly, Luton Lunch happens once a year then you don't see anyone else until either the Christmas bash or the Following Luton Lunch a year later frown

The old President used to find it very frustrating trying to get people to meet up. Many people don't tell you what they are up to until after the event!

Some people like to do more track day oriented stuff rather than show and shine. I like all of it, but balancing the families needs and attending car meets can be tricky.

Took the Viper up to Suffolk yesterday and back again this morning smile Great driving roads. And Adrian now has a working clutch and Gearbox smile

Im happy to attend any shows and American Car meets smile I have registered us for the NEC Classic car show Next year, Sadly we are too late for this years show.

makser

57 posts

153 months

Sunday 28th September 2014
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Very informative mate .Yes I remember going to supercar sunday years ago myself .Great day that was .Is that event still in august ? Sounds like getting viper owners together is hard work .Shame that. A few vipers at tatton park certainly livens the place up .I hope to make an appearance there next year .

Viper

10,005 posts

272 months

Sunday 28th September 2014
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gaydon Sc meet has died a death, most have moved on, Tatton Park is way to far north for most on here for a car show
I'm afraid

all regulars have done the car shows, various track days and euro events, coming up with something different to
attract a crowd isn't easy anymore

v82fas

158 posts

114 months

Monday 29th September 2014
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Thanks fatboy, will be on the lookout for one next spring. I'll sit tight until then.

I want the GTS on PH, seen it at a few shows before. i assume it was or is someones on here?