Parking Ticket Question

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Ace1650cp

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39 posts

144 months

Monday 8th September 2014
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Received a parking ticket today for parking as per the photo. Think I may well be in the wrong but still confused by the signage. I know its not totally clear in the photo but there are 2 signs on the one lamppost with the left bit stating you can pay to park (which I did via phone) and the right bit with an arrow pointing the other way stating residents only.



The bit that I totally missed when parking was the fact that there was a dividing line within the bay. Can anyone explain this sign to me, as the lamppost that it is on is well to the right of the dividing line. Happy to be wrong just would like to know exact meaning for future reference as can't seem to find an answer elsewhere on the web.


AGK

1,601 posts

155 months

Monday 8th September 2014
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Does seen a bit contradictory.

Appeal it and see what they say. I've always had tickets from the local council cancelled even when I've been in the wrong. Just don't be an arse with them!

ymwoods

2,178 posts

177 months

Monday 8th September 2014
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Was if defo for not having a residence parking permit? could be for not parking within designated spaces?

Ace1650cp

Original Poster:

39 posts

144 months

Monday 8th September 2014
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ymwoods said:
Was if defo for not having a residence parking permit? could be for not parking within designated spaces?
Haven't for the ticket in my hand right now but that part of the ticket listed a few different things including not displaying a ticket which is irrelevant as I payed by phone so u assumed the ticket doesn't give the exact reason.

Will check on the web in the morning as it wasn't coming up yet (says can take 24hrs to show up)

As its a long bay that then continues and not one designed for a single car and I am well withinf the next box, would parking across 2 boxes be totally incorrect and even a resident with permit would get a ticket for doing so even though they can legally park in either bay with their permit?

anonymous-user

54 months

Tuesday 9th September 2014
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Pay up, OP, and be thankful if you avoid an appearance on "You park like a twannock.com". You are plainly and obviously straddling two bays. The photo says it all. The signage isn't a factor, save that it makes it clear that you are in two zones at once. Look at the post and the arrows relative to your car!



Edited by anonymous-user on Tuesday 9th September 05:57

Ace1650cp

Original Poster:

39 posts

144 months

Tuesday 9th September 2014
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Breadvan72 said:
Pay up, OP, and be thankful if you avoid an appearance on "You park like a twannock.com". You are plainly and obviously straddling two bays. The photo says it all. The signage isn't a factor, save that it makes it clear that you are in two zones at once. Look at the post and the arrows relative to your car!



Edited by Breadvan72 on Tuesday 9th September 05:57
Indeed and you are totally correct.

Just so it is clear these parking bays were the type covering the entire length of the road. If this had of been a resident who could legally park in either box under the law would they still get a ticket as I am curious?

Type R Tom

3,864 posts

149 months

Tuesday 9th September 2014
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You may have a get out, I think (could be wrong) that as there effectively 2 different bays, with 2 traffic orders, there should be an end marking to show the two different bays. I think it should have 2 white lines 90deg to the pavement to show the end of the bay.

It would be a technicality as it’s fairly obvious the intention of the signs and the future changes to the TSRGD with prevents this sort of thing but it could be worth a try.

http://m.tsrgd.co.uk/sign.html?id=1032

Don’t take this as correct though, I’m not too good on parking.

Geekman

2,863 posts

146 months

Tuesday 9th September 2014
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Post it up on fightback forums and see what they say. I've had several cases where I thought I didn't have a hope and have managed to appeal successfully thanks to their help.

anonymous-user

54 months

Tuesday 9th September 2014
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"Fightback Forums", eh? Doncha just love those First World Problems?

AA999

5,180 posts

217 months

Tuesday 9th September 2014
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Looks like the authorities have decided you were in the 'residents only' parking, in which case you should probably claim back the parking you paid for not being in the 'pay bay'. wink


silverfoxcc

7,689 posts

145 months

Tuesday 9th September 2014
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Put it up on pepipoo.com. It may well be the council are trying it on.

Nothing ventured etc

Geekman

2,863 posts

146 months

Tuesday 9th September 2014
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Breadvan72 said:
"Fightback Forums", eh? Doncha just love those First World Problems?
I'm more in love with the fact they've saved me around £500 in the last few years. Most of the members are extremely knowlegeable and helpful, and dare I say it a lot less judgemental than the average PH user wink

Drumroll

3,756 posts

120 months

Tuesday 9th September 2014
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Could always try "as I was only half in the bay I will pay half the fine"

Red Devil

13,060 posts

208 months

Tuesday 9th September 2014
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Ace1650cp said:
ymwoods said:
Was if defo for not having a residence parking permit? could be for not parking within designated spaces?
Haven't for the ticket in my hand right now but that part of the ticket listed a few different things including not displaying a ticket which is irrelevant as I payed by phone so u assumed the ticket doesn't give the exact reason.
No. The ticket MUST state the specific contravention which you are being penalised for (they can only pick one). It will be a 2 digit number accompanied by the relevant wording.

You haven't said where the incident took place. If it was outside any of the London Boroughs look at this list
http://www.patrol-uk.info/site/scripts/documents_i...

If it was in London look at this one (most of the codes are identical but some of them e.g. 50-54 are unique to the capital).
http://www.britishparking.co.uk/write/Documents/Co...

If you are planning to post up on pepipoo it will be pointless without the code on the FPN.




mgtony

4,019 posts

190 months

Tuesday 9th September 2014
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I could understand some sort of confusion or annoyance if you were parked to the correct side of the lamp post but still happened to be in the resident bay, but you are along side the lamp post even if the road markings weren't there.
If the bay markings were in line with the lamp post, it looks like your wheels would have just been over into the resident bay anyway (only just!).

Red Devil

13,060 posts

208 months

Tuesday 9th September 2014
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Further to my earlier post. The OP's only chance imo is on a technicality - e.g. defective signage and/or bay markings. Even then his observational failure to observe he was straddling the dividing line between bays is going to seriously undermine his case for disputing the FPN. We'll have a better idea if/when he comes back and tells us what the contravention code is

leigh1050

2,373 posts

165 months

Thursday 11th September 2014
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You're partially in a residents only parking bay. Pay the fine and learn to park properly.