Whats the next Porsche to go ballistic?

Whats the next Porsche to go ballistic?

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mollytherocker

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14,366 posts

209 months

Monday 8th September 2014
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Warning - if you dislike value threads then go away!

Given the frankly incredible rises in pretty much anything air cooled in the last 2 years, I am wondering whats next? Assuming of course that the Porsche world is not about to come crashing down.

996 turbos are strong. 968CS? 928GTS? Or what about the 944 turbo?

Thoughts?

screwloose

608 posts

205 months

Monday 8th September 2014
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I'm led to believe really early 911s (swb) have got some way to go...

And perhaps, given a certain Mr Walkers interest in and ability to 'make cool' with subsequent media exposure, the 930 turbos?

Edited by screwloose on Monday 8th September 23:24

JJ55

651 posts

115 months

Monday 8th September 2014
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I reckon the 996 turbo will start to go up. The prices on those are pretty cheap at the mo & I can't see them dropping too much more. The 944 turbos have been holding a steady price for the last couple of years

AndrewIC

559 posts

168 months

Monday 8th September 2014
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Carrera GT has to go up by a large amount, current values seem very low and haven't done much in recent years, must be due a big jump.

uktrailmonster

4,827 posts

200 months

Tuesday 9th September 2014
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Probably not next in line, but I reckon early Boxsters in mint condition will start going up in value at some point. They are great cars and currently very cheap for what they are due to large volumes and many cars in poor condition. But give it another decade or so and the remaining low mileage cherished examples should start to become quite sought after. If I had the garage space I'd probably buy a low mileage mint 986/987S and just keep it for a couple of decades.

In the current market, I still think there are still a few undervalued Porsche models when you look at prices of similar cars:-

911 SC - Every bit as good and arguably better than an early 3.0 Carrera or later C3.2. For me it was a no-brainer to tuck one away a few years ago when they were still free with a packet of Cornflakes.
911 C3.2 - Already starting to take off, but still a relative bargain in the air-cooled world.
944 - Considering their excellent handling and strong performance (especially in Turbo form) they are still bloody cheap!
996 C2/C4/Turbo - All very very cheap for what you actually get. Currently going through the unloved 911 phase as did the 964 after the 993 came out. Everyone talks about the Turbo, but a lot of future "classic" buyers are likely to prefer the bog standard C2 or pretty C4S in the long haul. Once the supply starts to dry up and remaining engines are routinely bomb-proofed by the likes of Hartech, then the 996 has got to be a future classic.





SEE YA

3,522 posts

245 months

Tuesday 9th September 2014
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IMO It will be 996 Turbo for what the car is now they are very cheap at this time.

Mad March Taffy

508 posts

119 months

Tuesday 9th September 2014
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Not that I am biased but I'd quite like it to be the 996T!


EricE

1,945 posts

129 months

Tuesday 9th September 2014
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mollytherocker said:
Assuming of course that the Porsche world is not about to come crashing down.
Even as someone with vested interest I’d say that they will have to come down sooner rather than later. The signs are on the wall, just look at some of the recent auction results. When the music stops this time, Porsches will be the ones that take the biggest hit.

That being said I’d pick up a very clean 914-6, a 996 GT3RS and possibly even a Cayman GT4 which may turn out to be Porsche’s last manual enthusiast car, maybe even limited in numbers, in which case it’d almost like a second chance at a baby 4.0 RS (pure speculation of course).

m33ufo

4,959 posts

231 months

Tuesday 9th September 2014
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996 GT2...surely a £100K car if ever there was one smile

mrdemon

21,146 posts

265 months

Tuesday 9th September 2014
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Boxster Spyder imo

I want to buy a Lambo 570-4 or a 50th ed 2wd car but just keep thinking the Spyders are going to go big.
so cannot free up the funds to get into a super car.

I think a Lambo now looks quite cheap over the Porsche brand and some rare 1 of 1 models about.
http://www.sytner.co.uk/lamborghini/birmingham/use...

that should stay strong imo or go up.

ORD

18,107 posts

127 months

Tuesday 9th September 2014
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I cant agree re Lambos - they are, rightly or wrongly, seen by most people with money as fairly tasteless (at least in recent years). I cant see many people wanting to pull up for canapés at a country pile in something that looks so crude.

I would expect that anything with the following characteristics still has some climbing to do, albeit perhaps not for a while:-

(1) Fairly low volume - a problem for Boxsters generally but not the Spyder.

(2) Manual.

(3) "Special" - this overlaps with (1) but also catches things like funny roof (Spyder) and engine and/or suspension tweaks over the usual versions (997 GTS, GT4 etc).

If Porsche doesn't make many GT4s, I expect that they wont lose a great deal of value for about 5 years and then will climb a bit after 10.

Porsches really do seem to be in high demand at the moment, even at the low value end of the market - according to my searches, my 987.2 has lost no value since I bought it a year ago and put 12k miles on it. I'll of course not get that for it, but the sticker price for equivalent cars is the same as I paid for a car that was a year younger and had half the miles.

O/T, but what the hell is going on with E90 M3s? The new M3/M4 is not remotely attractive to me (and so, I guess, lots of people) and yet the old E90/92 is still as cheap as chips. I think they will climb quite quickly once they bottom out (which must be soon), not least given that hardly any other fast saloons are available in manual form (let alone having that V8).

CGJJ

857 posts

124 months

Tuesday 9th September 2014
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When I was in the 996 Turbo market in the second half of 2013 I definately saw the prices of low mileage manual examples rise,with the Turbo S rising substantially.

This resulted in me buying a 997 Turbo instead due to there being less than 10K separating 996 Turbo S and Gen 1 997 Turbo with the same mileage and a year or two difference in age.

I can't really see this top end of the 996 Turbo market rising anymore due to the ceiling presented by the 997.

What I can see is the 20-22K bottom end of the market rising to a 25-27K.


Good 944 Turbos are hard to find (SE 250bhp) and every other 944 is a poor relation.


There is a 1972 2.4L in good nick for sale near me for 50K (restored with good provenance).
A few years ago that was 2.7RS money.

Edited by CGJJ on Tuesday 9th September 09:58


Edited by CGJJ on Tuesday 9th September 10:04

jfp

514 posts

223 months

Tuesday 9th September 2014
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An easy one to answer, and its not boxter spyders, C2's etc etc....

996GT2.

jfp

514 posts

223 months

Tuesday 9th September 2014
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m33ufo said:
996 GT2...surely a £100K car if ever there was one smile
At last - someone on here talking some sense.

ORD

18,107 posts

127 months

Tuesday 9th September 2014
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jfp said:
An easy one to answer, and its not boxter spyders, C2's etc etc....

996GT2.
+ 1

uktrailmonster

4,827 posts

200 months

Tuesday 9th September 2014
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mrdemon said:
I want to buy a Lambo 570-4 or a 50th ed 2wd car but just keep thinking the Spyders are going to go big.
so cannot free up the funds to get into a super car.
No doubt a future classic, but I think you will be waiting a very very long time for it to go "big" unless you mean it might hold onto its value or go up slightly in the next few years. Would you really want to miss out on your supercar on the basis that your Spyder might be worth a lot of money in say 25 years time?

996GT2

2,649 posts

210 months

Tuesday 9th September 2014
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jfp said:
An easy one to answer, and its not boxter spyders, C2's etc etc....

996GT2.
Wait for the announcement that there won't be a 991 GT2, then watch out smilewink


supersport

4,050 posts

227 months

Tuesday 9th September 2014
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ORD said:
I cant agree re Lambos - they are, rightly or wrongly, seen by most people with money as fairly tasteless (at least in recent years). I cant see many people wanting to pull up for canapés at a country pile in something that looks so crude.
Lambos have already gone, a couple of years ago you could have got yourself into a nice Countach or Diablo for a lot less than £100k, no longer.

Murci's will follow suit, if not already.

Would love one.

fakko63

37 posts

116 months

Tuesday 9th September 2014
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Current thread discussing the merits of a 991 gt3 over a 997 gt3. Old hat maybe but buying a manual gt3 isn't the worse idea or maybe a manual 355. Very pretty cars those....

jfp

514 posts

223 months

Tuesday 9th September 2014
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996GT2 said:
jfp said:
An easy one to answer, and its not boxter spyders, C2's etc etc....

996GT2.
Wait for the announcement that there won't be a 991 GT2, then watch out smilewink
There is no 991 GT2. I ordered one... ;-) or tried to!