Life in the fast lane

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anonymous-user

54 months

Thursday 11th September 2014
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heebeegeetee said:
CK's post is utterly ridiculous. "the logistics industry has dug itself a massive hole it can't get out of". What the hell is that all about?

The UK is consumer driven . It is the only country in Europe I believe, that shops all day on Sundays. Germany doesn't even shop all day every Saturday.

If we want someone to blame then blame the supermarkets and on-line retailers like ebay and Amazon, but in any case you cannot force people to buy.
Therefore the consumers are to blame as if they don't create the demand the retailers will not supply?


anonymous-user

54 months

Thursday 11th September 2014
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heebeegeetee said:
jmorgan said:
Crossflow Kid said:
If you want a really good laugh get over to Commercial Berk and try offering that.
The Yorkie Bar Kids just won't accept the logistics industry has dug itself a massive hole it can't get out of by providing a service that everyone now regards as "essential" when on the whole it just isn't.
35 different types of bread in my local Sainsburys. I mean.....wow. Like I need that.
"Oh look....no white bread. Brown bread today then"
Verner von Braun needn't be consulted.
But the problem is the system will say it's a free market. You cut back on the bread and sell white or brown, sliced, with a sell by of tomorrow and your competitor will start to sell bread that runs out in three days time. Then they will sell two types of white and three of brown and a free croissant. The shopper is the fickle agent provocateur here. Shoppers are blasted by adverts and the need to buy a product and in this day and age they want it yesterday. They are also stupid as a group.

So the lorries roll. Buy something on Amazon? It is on the back of a lorry. And they will not send that one single item on its own special lorry to the depot to be stored until you pick it. And they want you to pick it so better get a good few items in so they can offer a silly low price to tempt you. You have the choice to buy more expensive but then we are going to go for the lower priced item. In the main. Back to the shopper.
CK's post is utterly ridiculous. "the logistics industry has dug itself a massive hole it can't get out of". What the hell is that all about?

The UK is consumer driven. It is the only country in Europe I believe, that shops all day on Sundays. Germany doesn't even shop all day every Saturday.
The hole in question is the situation whereby the whole consumer/retail/logs supply chain has relentlessly told people they can have their order delivered yesterday and now it can't keep up except by having vehicles on the go 24/7. And the more that happens, the more people want "stuff" delivered at any time.
Neither side seems to want to break the cycle.


marshalla

15,902 posts

201 months

Thursday 11th September 2014
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Crossflow Kid said:
The hole in question is the situation whereby the whole consumer/retail/logs supply chain has relentlessly told people they can have their order delivered yesterday and now it can't keep up except by having vehicles on the go 24/7. And the more that happens, the more people want "stuff" delivered at any time.
Neither side seems to want to break the cycle.
A lot of it is driven by the "just in time" process too - nobody holds a proper stock of anything any more, so the roads are being used as warehousing.

jmorgan

36,010 posts

284 months

Thursday 11th September 2014
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marshalla said:
Crossflow Kid said:
The hole in question is the situation whereby the whole consumer/retail/logs supply chain has relentlessly told people they can have their order delivered yesterday and now it can't keep up except by having vehicles on the go 24/7. And the more that happens, the more people want "stuff" delivered at any time.
Neither side seems to want to break the cycle.
A lot of it is driven by the "just in time" process too - nobody holds a proper stock of anything any more, so the roads are being used as warehousing.
There is that as well. End user is still the shopper and they walk if the price ain't right.

Car fixing? Part out of stock but it will be here tomorrow.

monthefish

20,443 posts

231 months

Thursday 11th September 2014
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AlexRS2782 said:
Collectingbrass said:
This woman with the burst tyre and the instant recovery truck has to be a set up surely?
The first thing that popped into my mind as well, was that seemed a bit staged. How handy that on the day she has the camera in her car and is complaining about the lack of a hard shoulder, the dangers, etc, and then all of a sudden she breaks down?

I notice that when she first noticed the problem she kept driving and went past the coned area where there were no roadworks, which she could have nipped into safely, and then decided to stop the car next to the metal barrier instead. At which point she starts panicking, then starts panicking the child, makes comments about a mad woman behind her nearly hitting her, but then decides to start driving again, where lo & behold the exit slip road for the junction was.
yes
Can't believe she stopped. Fecking liability to herself and others. Hazards on, nurse it to a safe location FFS.

KTF

9,805 posts

150 months

Thursday 11th September 2014
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monthefish said:
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Can't believe she stopped. Fecking liability to herself and others. Hazards on, nurse it to a safe location FFS.
Women drivers, eh. What will we do with them...

Halmyre

11,197 posts

139 months

Thursday 11th September 2014
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monthefish said:
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Can't believe she stopped. Fecking liability to herself and others. Hazards on, nurse it to a safe location FFS.
I see that on the Forth Road Bridge occasionally, broken down at a point where they could practically coast to a safe place.

Blakewater

4,309 posts

157 months

Thursday 11th September 2014
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The lorry with the flat tyre on its trailer at the beginning wasn't staged and that was stuck in a live running lane of the managed section. It had to sit there with a forlorn Highways Agency guy standing next to it well into the night because it couldn't be recovered. Had it been on a hard shoulder the motorway could have run more smoothly and safely while it was there and it could have been taken away a lot sooner. There are more logical and long term alternatives to the smart motorway system that will be safer and overall better for the environment. They just wouldn't always be politically correct as it would involve motorway widening and new roads being built. Widening the motorway could result in those two moaning guys having compulsory purchase orders on their houses which would be good or bad for them depending on the prices they were given.

As for the bread thing, I used to work in M&S. There were millions of indistinguishable varieties of bread, ham, cheese and so on and people would moan long and loud if we didn't have the very kind they wanted.

BossHogg

6,013 posts

178 months

Thursday 11th September 2014
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Collectingbrass said:
This woman with the burst tyre and the instant recovery truck has to be a set up surely?
Not really, roadworks in the area, you could tell by the metal safety barrier, so there's probably free recovery patrolling that stretch and was in the right place at the right time. wink

JimmyConwayNW

3,065 posts

125 months

Thursday 11th September 2014
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The woman who had a puncture, her daughter looked like Gimli from lord of the rings.


Halmyre

11,197 posts

139 months

Friday 12th September 2014
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JimmyConwayNW said:
The woman who had a puncture, her daughter looked like Gimli from lord of the rings.
What, beard and all?!?

Bullett

10,886 posts

184 months

Friday 12th September 2014
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Crossflow Kid said:
The hole in question is the situation whereby the whole consumer/retail/logs supply chain has relentlessly told people they can have their order delivered yesterday and now it can't keep up except by having vehicles on the go 24/7. And the more that happens, the more people want "stuff" delivered at any time.
Neither side seems to want to break the cycle.
Allow 28 days for delivery?
Expectations are now next day delivery. If amazon stopped doing next day they would be out of business pretty fast as others would offer it.
I've even had deliveries turn up on a Sunday recently.


jmorgan

36,010 posts

284 months

Friday 12th September 2014
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Not just parts and orders for the ordinary pointers. Stores for some firms are just in time, dead drop lockers etc.

daveenty

Original Poster:

2,358 posts

210 months

Tuesday 16th September 2014
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Quick bump: Part two tonight BBC 2 smile

anonymous-user

54 months

Tuesday 16th September 2014
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Rundown (pardon the pun) of some of the people in it and their backgrounds, ie few Ex military, drivers and others.

http://www.highways.gov.uk/about-us/the-motorway/

Also a heads up on what's on the next 2 weeks.

Patch1875

4,894 posts

132 months

Tuesday 16th September 2014
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That little girl scares me .

KTF

9,805 posts

150 months

Tuesday 16th September 2014
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Patch1875 said:
That little girl scares me .
The mum is more scary than the girl as the girl can't drive.

KTF

9,805 posts

150 months

Tuesday 16th September 2014
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Seemingly driving with his thumb only it seems.

crmcatee

5,694 posts

227 months

Tuesday 16th September 2014
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He's got a pretty lax driving style - a finger and thumb on the bottom of the wheel.

GTIR

24,741 posts

266 months

Tuesday 16th September 2014
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Patch1875 said:
That little girl scares me .
She's a very odd looking child. yes

I think it's the chin and the death look she has.

Poor girl.