Retained values for TVR's in CAR magazine...

Retained values for TVR's in CAR magazine...

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douglasr

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1,092 posts

273 months

Sunday 28th July 2002
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Residual value of a TVR after 3 years:

Model List Retained Value (3 Years)
Chimaera 4.5 £ 35135 £ 16050 (45.6%)
5.0 £ 36835 £ 17200 (46.6%)

Tamora £ 36655 £ 16800 (45.8%)

Cerbera S6 £ 41255 £ 18000 (43.6%)
4.2 £ 41255 £ 18000 (43.6%)
4.5 £ 46655 £ 20300 (43.5%)

Tuscan 3.6 £ 40005 £ 18000 (44.9%)
4.0 £ 48955 £ 20650 (42.1%)

Mid 40's, which is pretty good (your average repmobile is about 38% I think. Potential competitors like Porsche and BMW are between 10 and 20% better depending on model, but thats to be expected. They are usually more expensive tho (996 V Cerb, Boxster S v Tamora)

tvrinbfg

1,457 posts

285 months

Sunday 28th July 2002
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Ummmm, TVR prices have not gone up much in the last three years, but looking around I can't find any V plate Chimaera 5.0s at £17200, or better still, a nice V plate Cerbera 4.5 at £20300.

simpo one

85,557 posts

266 months

Sunday 28th July 2002
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Who buys them for residual value anyway?

julianhj

8,746 posts

263 months

Sunday 28th July 2002
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Just looking at those this afternoon. A £20k '99 Cerbie 4.5?
£18k for the first Tuscans?

Maybe they refer to the ridiculous trade-in prices a dealer might offer...

Jasper Gilder

2,166 posts

274 months

Sunday 28th July 2002
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Residual values are used by teh finance trade to protect themselves. If they have to repsosses, or sell a car they want to ensure that they stand a chance of making a return, so they will undervalue your motor. Lets face it, what your TVR is worth is what someone is prepared to pay for it, and teh scarxcity of cars has an efect. For example - I wanted a 4.5 Cerbera in any colour but blue with less than 6K mileage last year. Took six months of graft to find one.

Remember too that any dealer worthe their salt will give you a nice trade in if they want to sell a new car to you. Lets not panic until we have to!

flasher

9,238 posts

285 months

Sunday 28th July 2002
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Well, it all sounds bollocks to me. I have a guaranteed £20K residual on my Tamora after 3 years.

Yes they lose money and an early Tuscan is only worth £25K trade in now, but it aint £18K.... so Car's figures are well out of touch IMO......

>> Edited by flasher on Sunday 28th July 22:24

bennno

11,659 posts

270 months

Monday 29th July 2002
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in reality those figures are about spot on, dont foget they are for 3yr old cars with 36k miles....

3 yrs back would be a 99/S Cerb, a 4.2 with 36,000 miles would do well to raise 20k trade or private, likewise a S reg Chimera with 36,000 miles would do well to make 18k trade or private sale.

When you factor in the much lower mileages they cover they are undoubtedly worth a bit more. The Tuscan is still a year too new for comparison currently, but when you think of the number of cars up for £25-£26,000 in top marques after 2 years and with sub 8,000 miles on the clock, the day of a £20,000 Tuscan will come - especially for one with nigh on 40k on the clock.

Bennno

>> Edited by bennno on Monday 29th July 22:22

plotloss

67,280 posts

271 months

Tuesday 30th July 2002
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the day of a £20,000 Tuscan will come



Looking at the prices in the classified at the height of summer I reckon a £20K Tuscan could be here by Christmas.

Matt.

s_willy

9,699 posts

275 months

Tuesday 30th July 2002
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Your vehicle cost will be based upon market value. I had my last chimaera valued by my insurer for total loss, by getting as many adverts for similar vehicles as i could. Worked out nicely. £18000 for a 97R 4.0 litre with 46000 miles. average condition, carpet trim a bit grubby.

ap_smith

1,992 posts

267 months

Tuesday 30th July 2002
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the day of a £20,000 Tuscan will come - especially for one with nigh on 40k on the clock.
As seen in the Guinness book of records for the most engine replacements. (or is that being a bit harsh?)

I'll get me coat.

bennno

11,659 posts

270 months

Tuesday 30th July 2002
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stick that 18k in the bank and youll pick up an X Reg Tuscan next year for it!!

Bennno

bryanlister

4,516 posts

282 months

Tuesday 30th July 2002
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18K for an X reg Tuscan next year??? Sorry, I doubt it. Not unless Chims and Griffs are going mainly for under 9K, which means that S's would be worth about 2K and a classic Vixen of Grantura - well they would be free of charge!

Depreciation is not linear, cars lose most value in year 1, and then less after that per year. I just sold my 1996 Chimp for 16K and it was 6 years old and 32K when new. 50% in 6 years! Trying doing that with a Mondeo. In my mind, if you have a good car hang on to it. If you need to sell, don't sell cheap - it just brings the price of everyone's cars down.

bennno

11,659 posts

270 months

Tuesday 30th July 2002
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joke...but given i could have bought a 14 month old Tuscan for £26K last October I guess there are some cars changing hands now for 22-23k trade.

Bennno

Basil Brush

5,088 posts

264 months

Tuesday 30th July 2002
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If you need to sell, don't sell cheap



Is there an alternative?

bennno

11,659 posts

270 months

Tuesday 30th July 2002
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I just sold my 1996 Chimp for 16K and it was 6 years old and 32K when new. 50% in 6 years!


If it had been a P Reg 2.5L boxter you would have lost 20% tops, but I guess would have had nothing like the same amount of fun.

Bennno

Roadrunner

2,690 posts

268 months

Tuesday 30th July 2002
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20k will buy you any model tiv you fancy these days. The scare stories don't give potential new owners much confidence I reckon.