Scottish Referendum / Independence - Vol 6
Discussion
McWigglebum4th said:
Silverbullet767 said:
Not looking forward to what I'll see at the polling station this Thursday. I'll be going after work, so I hope they'll all be too tired to keep shouting FREEDOM at people.
I am heading over for the doors openingI can't see much trouble before lunchtime
Silverbullet767 said:
I work 170 miles from my polling station, half day Thursday and i've got the Friday off this week. Following the no vote, I will not be venturing out. I can see trouble ahead!
Well you just have to go in disguiseTry screaming f
k the tory scumAs you go into the polling station
McWigglebum4th said:
Silverbullet767 said:
Not looking forward to what I'll see at the polling station this Thursday. I'll be going after work, so I hope they'll all be too tired to keep shouting FREEDOM at people.
I am heading over for the doors openingI can't see much trouble before lunchtime
Reckon I'll walk the kids to school and get it over and done with.
I'm not expecting much, (if any), trouble but I won't be leaving anything not battened down for a wee while.
doogz said:
http://gcaptain.com/scotland-vote-trigger-dispute-...
Not only do we want to keep all the oil for ourselves, we want to bill them for decommissioning!
Any MP that supports that should be put up against a wall and shot.Not only do we want to keep all the oil for ourselves, we want to bill them for decommissioning!
I'm of the opinion this would be the proper response to any such request.
imagineifyeswill said:
I can foresee crowds of yessers attempting to intimidate people as they go to vote. Im fairly hopefull that sense wiil prevail in the end and the result will be no but at the same time expect there to be serious trouble from the more extreme factions of the yes vote come Friday.Over the years there have been a fair few amateurish terrorist type groups allying themselves to Scottish Independance
Echoes of January, 1933
Will Salmond's Brownshirts be out in force?
Guam said:
V88Dicky said:
imagineifyeswill said:
I can foresee crowds of yessers attempting to intimidate people as they go to vote. Im fairly hopefull that sense wiil prevail in the end and the result will be no but at the same time expect there to be serious trouble from the more extreme factions of the yes vote come Friday.Over the years there have been a fair few amateurish terrorist type groups allying themselves to Scottish Independance
Echoes of January, 1933Will Salmond's Brownshirts be out in force?
V88Dicky said:
imagineifyeswill said:
I can foresee crowds of yessers attempting to intimidate people as they go to vote. Im fairly hopefull that sense wiil prevail in the end and the result will be no but at the same time expect there to be serious trouble from the more extreme factions of the yes vote come Friday.Over the years there have been a fair few amateurish terrorist type groups allying themselves to Scottish Independance
Echoes of January, 1933Will Salmond's Brownshirts be out in force?
Mr_B said:
V88Dicky said:
imagineifyeswill said:
I can foresee crowds of yessers attempting to intimidate people as they go to vote. Im fairly hopefull that sense wiil prevail in the end and the result will be no but at the same time expect there to be serious trouble from the more extreme factions of the yes vote come Friday.Over the years there have been a fair few amateurish terrorist type groups allying themselves to Scottish Independance
Echoes of January, 1933Will Salmond's Brownshirts be out in force?
Cobnapint said:
McWigglebum4th said:
I am heading over for the doors opening
I can't see much trouble before lunchtime
It'll be in the evening when the exit polls start showing a big swing to the No.I can't see much trouble before lunchtime
Jader1973 said:
And the simple fix for that is for everyone exiting to say "I voted Yes" which means Alex's disappointment will be even greater
The thing is - if Yes supporters do try intimidation tactics at polling stations - this is likely to happen. People will say they voted Yes just so they can get away without fear of abuse.some things that don't seem to have been mentioned by the SNP and yes crowd
a) the cost of setting up and staffing Scottish Embassy's/Consulates around the world - bet they expect to 'share' the British Embassy's etc
b) what will Scotland do for security services - they cannot have a piece of MI5/MI6/GCHQ
c) oil rig security/major terrorist event - again they cannot have bits of the SAS/SBS/SRR/SFSG - so in the event of a major problem I assume England would be expected to step in
d)if Scotland allows uncontrolled immigration what is to stop said immigrants crossing into England
e) if criminals enter Scotland from England and visa versa will Extradition warrants be needed
seems a lot of adult joined up thinking is missing by the SNP?
also speaking to friends in the Armed Forces not a single one of their Scottish friends would consider joining what the are already calling the Scottish Dad's Army - they have said if their regiments are transferred to Scotland they will resign and join the 'English Army'
as they say - no overseas training in mountain/desert/arctic/jungle warfare - no overseas postings - no NATO exercises as I very much doubt Scotland will be allowed to join NATO having thrown out one of NATO's critical nuclear deterrents?
and no chance of combat experience which todays new generation of the armed forces want and expect
as an aside - a friend has just come home after a weeks salmon fishing in Perthshire - the first night he and friends went to a local bar they have used many times in the past and left after the first drink - there was a distinct feeling of menace and locals were already arguing loudly at 7pm so god knows what it would be like later fuelled by more alcohol? - they spent the rest of the week in the hotel bar
a) the cost of setting up and staffing Scottish Embassy's/Consulates around the world - bet they expect to 'share' the British Embassy's etc
b) what will Scotland do for security services - they cannot have a piece of MI5/MI6/GCHQ
c) oil rig security/major terrorist event - again they cannot have bits of the SAS/SBS/SRR/SFSG - so in the event of a major problem I assume England would be expected to step in
d)if Scotland allows uncontrolled immigration what is to stop said immigrants crossing into England
e) if criminals enter Scotland from England and visa versa will Extradition warrants be needed
seems a lot of adult joined up thinking is missing by the SNP?
also speaking to friends in the Armed Forces not a single one of their Scottish friends would consider joining what the are already calling the Scottish Dad's Army - they have said if their regiments are transferred to Scotland they will resign and join the 'English Army'
as they say - no overseas training in mountain/desert/arctic/jungle warfare - no overseas postings - no NATO exercises as I very much doubt Scotland will be allowed to join NATO having thrown out one of NATO's critical nuclear deterrents?
and no chance of combat experience which todays new generation of the armed forces want and expect
as an aside - a friend has just come home after a weeks salmon fishing in Perthshire - the first night he and friends went to a local bar they have used many times in the past and left after the first drink - there was a distinct feeling of menace and locals were already arguing loudly at 7pm so god knows what it would be like later fuelled by more alcohol? - they spent the rest of the week in the hotel bar
Edited by grand cherokee on Monday 15th September 10:43
It's bizarre to see all the borderline militant rants on social media - the yes campaign has really whipped up a storm, with people suddenly believing that they've been conned and manipulated by Westminster, and that SNP and independence is the true and honorable alternative. The reality is that a lot of the yes campaigns are lies, but people do their 'research' by reading the Yes Scotland page, and reinforce the lies and manipulation. There seems to be a lot of those 'pictures with text' which are complete fabrications going viral, created by people who are no doubt not even part of the formal yes campaign, but these are doing damage. On a related note but a bit more extreme, I was told that some yes campaigners on Leith Walk in Edinburgh were telling people that a no vote meant a return of military conscription .
I read a Yes leaflet this morning that cited abolishing the Westminster bedroom tax as a reason to vote yes - ignoring the fact that it has always been within SNP's power to remove it from Scotland yet they've chosen not to do so (and Salmond didn't even turn up to vote on the UK-wide abolition being considered in Westminster). The SNP has been sitting on a lot of devolved powers to try and make Scotland look much less in control than it actually is, with the aim of reinforcing the independence mandate.
The yes campaign has somehow made it look like "Scotland against England", which isn't an accurate representation. It's simply a proportion of Scotland against the UK....at least half (hopefully more!) of people living in Scotland don't want independence.
I will be proud to vote no on Wednesday, and hopefully be a part of saving Scotland. I am however saddened that we'll be left with a divided nation whatever the outcome.
.I read a Yes leaflet this morning that cited abolishing the Westminster bedroom tax as a reason to vote yes - ignoring the fact that it has always been within SNP's power to remove it from Scotland yet they've chosen not to do so (and Salmond didn't even turn up to vote on the UK-wide abolition being considered in Westminster). The SNP has been sitting on a lot of devolved powers to try and make Scotland look much less in control than it actually is, with the aim of reinforcing the independence mandate.
The yes campaign has somehow made it look like "Scotland against England", which isn't an accurate representation. It's simply a proportion of Scotland against the UK....at least half (hopefully more!) of people living in Scotland don't want independence.
I will be proud to vote no on Wednesday, and hopefully be a part of saving Scotland. I am however saddened that we'll be left with a divided nation whatever the outcome.
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