Scottish Referendum / Independence - Vol 6
Discussion
rumpelstiltskin said:
Result was never going to be any different,Edinburgh full of Anglified Scots posh knob-ends and Aberdeen full of pople who've battered their heads off granite a bit too often while ofcourse reeking of fish.Good old Glasgae thou,never ever change,true Scots city through and through.Too many chuffing foreigners in the country now anyway to care where Scotland goes.Nice to hear the 'Jock' term showing it's pretty head again on this thread,ignorant b
ds.
You're calling others ignorant whilst posting a rant like that? Fair play to you.ds.rumpelstiltskin said:
Result was never going to be any different,Edinburgh full of Anglified Scots posh knob-ends and Aberdeen full of pople who've battered their heads off granite a bit too often while ofcourse reeking of fish.Good old Glasgae thou,never ever change,true Scots city through and through.Too many chuffing foreigners in the country now anyway to care where Scotland goes.Nice to hear the 'Jock' term showing it's pretty head again on this thread,ignorant bds.
I may print and frame this.ds.Not because it's 'good', but because it's just... je ne said quoi.
Greg66 said:
If Cameron pulls off the double of maintaining the Union and resolving the West Lothian question favourably (ie in England's favour, which means in the Tories' favour and against Labour's interests), he will have pulled off a master stroke of immense proportions.
He just needs the boundary commission to sort things out (Nick Clegg, fk you) for the Holy Trinity.
No, that's wrong. Any reform has to be non-partisan or it will cause resentment and be quickly over-turned. We need clear-sighted leadership with the best interests of the whole country at heart, not gerrymandering.He just needs the boundary commission to sort things out (Nick Clegg, f
k you) for the Holy Trinity. PlankWithANailIn said:
Scotland are getting what they want because...err..that's what they want and have created a political movement around it, its a simple as that.
No, Scotland are getting what they want because...err..Westminster caved in to the highly dangerous ambitions of the SNP which WOULD have wrecked both Scotland and rUK. And the UK is far less 'U' as a result.THX said:
rumpelstiltskin said:
Result was never going to be any different,Edinburgh full of Anglified Scots posh knob-ends and Aberdeen full of pople who've battered their heads off granite a bit too often while ofcourse reeking of fish.Good old Glasgae thou,never ever change,true Scots city through and through.Too many chuffing foreigners in the country now anyway to care where Scotland goes.Nice to hear the 'Jock' term showing it's pretty head again on this thread,ignorant bds.
I may print and frame this.ds.Not because it's 'good', but because it's just... je ne said quoi.
tin foil hat on facebook said:
I always felt confident Yes could win this referendum. HOWEVER, I also always warned of the huge dangers posed by the immensely powerful anti-democratic forces ranged against us. The Tory Party, the New Labour Party (with its criminal record for electoral fraud), Big Business, Big Bureaucracy, the British State Broadcasting Corporation (BSBC), Big Media, and last but by no means least MI5 and all the other "secret" agencies of the British State and their many thousands of employees prepared to stop at nothing in order to serve and preserve the State which pays their salaries.
It is now beginning to look like these anti-democratic forces may have somehow managed to turn what I suspect was in fact a YES win into the fraudulent appearance of a win for No. It may be some time before we can get an investigation of exactly how this was done. It may be years before we find out all the details of how the crime was committed. But that's no reason to accept things on their terms. Anybody who thinks we're going to say "Well done, old boy" to David Cameron & co has another think coming.
<snip>stuff about Nixon vs Jack Kennedy & Gore vs Bush</snip>
So even if Alex Salmond thought the referendum had been rigged in favour of NO, he might have to think very carefully about the personal and political danger in saying so.
But there'll be no such hesitation from me: this alleged "result" stinks. This corruption stinks to high heaven.
Do not blame ordinary No voters for this.
Do not blame any of your family, or neighbours, or workmates, who may have voted No.
It's unfortunate they were taken in by the lies and the fear-mongering of professional liars, but the vote-rigging is not their fault.
Do not blame English folk, or any other minority group for this.
Most of them voted Yes.
Blame the corrupt professional politicians of the Tory Party, the New Labour Party (with its criminal record for electoral fraud), Big Business, Big Bureaucracy, the British State Broadcasting Corporation (BSBC), Big Media, and, last but by no means least, MI5 and all the other "secret" agencies of the British State and their many thousands of employees.
Do not act violently; but do not accept the fraud which has been imposed on us either. Do not give the BritNats, who think they've won, the satisfaction of accepting that. Tell the world that the maggots who feed upon the decaying corpse of the British Empire may have, by underhand means, gained a little more time before the final dissolution of their State; but that's all they have gained.
They have not won. The fight continues, and we will win.
So far, all this is just my personal view. But I'm confident many others will sympathise with what I'm putting forward. For example, there's a delegate conference of the Radical Independence Campaign a week on Saturday. I would be very surprised if this view is not discussed.
It is now beginning to look like these anti-democratic forces may have somehow managed to turn what I suspect was in fact a YES win into the fraudulent appearance of a win for No. It may be some time before we can get an investigation of exactly how this was done. It may be years before we find out all the details of how the crime was committed. But that's no reason to accept things on their terms. Anybody who thinks we're going to say "Well done, old boy" to David Cameron & co has another think coming.
<snip>stuff about Nixon vs Jack Kennedy & Gore vs Bush</snip>
So even if Alex Salmond thought the referendum had been rigged in favour of NO, he might have to think very carefully about the personal and political danger in saying so.
But there'll be no such hesitation from me: this alleged "result" stinks. This corruption stinks to high heaven.
Do not blame ordinary No voters for this.
Do not blame any of your family, or neighbours, or workmates, who may have voted No.
It's unfortunate they were taken in by the lies and the fear-mongering of professional liars, but the vote-rigging is not their fault.
Do not blame English folk, or any other minority group for this.
Most of them voted Yes.
Blame the corrupt professional politicians of the Tory Party, the New Labour Party (with its criminal record for electoral fraud), Big Business, Big Bureaucracy, the British State Broadcasting Corporation (BSBC), Big Media, and, last but by no means least, MI5 and all the other "secret" agencies of the British State and their many thousands of employees.
Do not act violently; but do not accept the fraud which has been imposed on us either. Do not give the BritNats, who think they've won, the satisfaction of accepting that. Tell the world that the maggots who feed upon the decaying corpse of the British Empire may have, by underhand means, gained a little more time before the final dissolution of their State; but that's all they have gained.
They have not won. The fight continues, and we will win.
So far, all this is just my personal view. But I'm confident many others will sympathise with what I'm putting forward. For example, there's a delegate conference of the Radical Independence Campaign a week on Saturday. I would be very surprised if this view is not discussed.
Cobnapint said:
Derek Smith said:
The gap surprised me. Over 10% is significant and something of a relief.
Is it fk significant. 25% would be significant. 10% is very close.Don't think this has gone away, it hasn't. Salmond said in his speech - Scotland has voted to stay with the union - AT THIS STAGE!
Expect to go through the same s
t in about 15-20 years time.Calm down and relax, you've got the rest of your life in front of you and that's a long time to be a frothing dick. You can choose not to be, really.
Moonhawk said:
THX said:
rumpelstiltskin said:
Result was never going to be any different,Edinburgh full of Anglified Scots posh knob-ends and Aberdeen full of pople who've battered their heads off granite a bit too often while ofcourse reeking of fish.Good old Glasgae thou,never ever change,true Scots city through and through.Too many chuffing foreigners in the country now anyway to care where Scotland goes.Nice to hear the 'Jock' term showing it's pretty head again on this thread,ignorant bds.
I may print and frame this.ds.Not because it's 'good', but because it's just... je ne said quoi.
rumpelstiltskin said:
Result was never going to be any different,Edinburgh full of Anglified Scots posh knob-ends and Aberdeen full of pople who've battered their heads off granite a bit too often while ofcourse reeking of fish.Good old Glasgae thou,never ever change,true Scots city through and through.Too many chuffing foreigners in the country now anyway to care where Scotland goes.Nice to hear the 'Jock' term showing it's pretty head again on this thread,ignorant bds.
This is the kind of view that shames Scotland. Glasgow was a yes, but there are still a significant proportion of no voters in Glasgow. The country was fairly split....an outcome in any area doesn't represent everyone in that area! In regard to your embarrassing "chuffing foreigners" comment, you presumably didn't really bother yourself with understanding the policies and plan behind your vote; King Salmond's plan included significantly increasing immigration by non-Scots to support the economy.ds.Rovinghawk said:
rumpelstiltskin said:
Result was never going to be any different,Edinburgh full of Anglified Scots posh knob-ends and Aberdeen full of pople who've battered their heads off granite a bit too often while ofcourse reeking of fish.Good old Glasgae thou,never ever change,true Scots city through and through.Too many chuffing foreigners in the country now anyway to care where Scotland goes.Nice to hear the 'Jock' term showing it's pretty head again on this thread,ignorant bds.
You're calling others ignorant whilst posting a rant like that? Fair play to you.ds.Ranting, pointing and shouting at reporters. Calling anybody who questioned things liars etc etc. they came across as bitter dangerous and petty.
I've met far to many Scottish who hate the english to give a s
t about the country. Fair on the rest if them? No. Salmons mistake was not having the rest of the uk vote. I'm sure no Scottish ever use any names for the English do they rumplestiltskin? This was another problem, the hypocrisy.
rumpelstiltskin said:
Result was never going to be any different,Edinburgh full of Anglified Scots posh knob-ends and Aberdeen full of pople who've battered their heads off granite a bit too often while ofcourse reeking of fish.Good old Glasgae thou,never ever change,true Scots city through and through.Too many chuffing foreigners in the country now anyway to care where Scotland goes.Nice to hear the 'Jock' term showing it's pretty head again on this thread,ignorant bds.
:no: Dundee is where it's at. Glasgow doesn't deserve to be considered a true part of Scotland anymore after that result, only Dundee has shown the true way. ds.
Pesty said:
Rovinghawk said:
rumpelstiltskin said:
Result was never going to be any different,Edinburgh full of Anglified Scots posh knob-ends and Aberdeen full of pople who've battered their heads off granite a bit too often while ofcourse reeking of fish.Good old Glasgae thou,never ever change,true Scots city through and through.Too many chuffing foreigners in the country now anyway to care where Scotland goes.Nice to hear the 'Jock' term showing it's pretty head again on this thread,ignorant bds.
You're calling others ignorant whilst posting a rant like that? Fair play to you.ds.Ranting, pointing and shouting at reporters. Calling anybody who questioned things liars etc etc. they came across as bitter dangerous and petty.
I've met far to many Scottish who hate the english to give a s
t about the country. Fair on the rest if them? No. Salmons mistake was not having the rest of the uk vote. I'm sure no Scottish ever use any names for the English do they rumplestiltskin? This was another problem, the hypocrisy.
shows is a deeply ingrained hatred of anyone who is successfulvote YES to have a scotland where everyone is poor
jshell said:
Cobnapint said:
Derek Smith said:
The gap surprised me. Over 10% is significant and something of a relief.
Is it fk significant. 25% would be significant. 10% is very close.Don't think this has gone away, it hasn't. Salmond said in his speech - Scotland has voted to stay with the union - AT THIS STAGE!
Expect to go through the same s
t in about 15-20 years time.Calm down and relax, you've got the rest of your life in front of you and that's a long time to be a frothing dick. You can choose not to be, really.
worsy said:
tin foil hat on facebook said:
I always felt confident Yes could win this referendum. HOWEVER, I also always warned of the huge dangers posed by the immensely powerful anti-democratic forces ranged against us. The Tory Party, the New Labour Party (with its criminal record for electoral fraud), Big Business, Big Bureaucracy, the British State Broadcasting Corporation (BSBC), Big Media, and last but by no means least MI5 and all the other "secret" agencies of the British State and their many thousands of employees prepared to stop at nothing in order to serve and preserve the State which pays their salaries.
It is now beginning to look like these anti-democratic forces may have somehow managed to turn what I suspect was in fact a YES win into the fraudulent appearance of a win for No. It may be some time before we can get an investigation of exactly how this was done. It may be years before we find out all the details of how the crime was committed. But that's no reason to accept things on their terms. Anybody who thinks we're going to say "Well done, old boy" to David Cameron & co has another think coming.
<snip>stuff about Nixon vs Jack Kennedy & Gore vs Bush</snip>
So even if Alex Salmond thought the referendum had been rigged in favour of NO, he might have to think very carefully about the personal and political danger in saying so.
But there'll be no such hesitation from me: this alleged "result" stinks. This corruption stinks to high heaven.
Do not blame ordinary No voters for this.
Do not blame any of your family, or neighbours, or workmates, who may have voted No.
It's unfortunate they were taken in by the lies and the fear-mongering of professional liars, but the vote-rigging is not their fault.
Do not blame English folk, or any other minority group for this.
Most of them voted Yes.
Blame the corrupt professional politicians of the Tory Party, the New Labour Party (with its criminal record for electoral fraud), Big Business, Big Bureaucracy, the British State Broadcasting Corporation (BSBC), Big Media, and, last but by no means least, MI5 and all the other "secret" agencies of the British State and their many thousands of employees.
Do not act violently; but do not accept the fraud which has been imposed on us either. Do not give the BritNats, who think they've won, the satisfaction of accepting that. Tell the world that the maggots who feed upon the decaying corpse of the British Empire may have, by underhand means, gained a little more time before the final dissolution of their State; but that's all they have gained.
They have not won. The fight continues, and we will win.
So far, all this is just my personal view. But I'm confident many others will sympathise with what I'm putting forward. For example, there's a delegate conference of the Radical Independence Campaign a week on Saturday. I would be very surprised if this view is not discussed.
It is now beginning to look like these anti-democratic forces may have somehow managed to turn what I suspect was in fact a YES win into the fraudulent appearance of a win for No. It may be some time before we can get an investigation of exactly how this was done. It may be years before we find out all the details of how the crime was committed. But that's no reason to accept things on their terms. Anybody who thinks we're going to say "Well done, old boy" to David Cameron & co has another think coming.
<snip>stuff about Nixon vs Jack Kennedy & Gore vs Bush</snip>
So even if Alex Salmond thought the referendum had been rigged in favour of NO, he might have to think very carefully about the personal and political danger in saying so.
But there'll be no such hesitation from me: this alleged "result" stinks. This corruption stinks to high heaven.
Do not blame ordinary No voters for this.
Do not blame any of your family, or neighbours, or workmates, who may have voted No.
It's unfortunate they were taken in by the lies and the fear-mongering of professional liars, but the vote-rigging is not their fault.
Do not blame English folk, or any other minority group for this.
Most of them voted Yes.
Blame the corrupt professional politicians of the Tory Party, the New Labour Party (with its criminal record for electoral fraud), Big Business, Big Bureaucracy, the British State Broadcasting Corporation (BSBC), Big Media, and, last but by no means least, MI5 and all the other "secret" agencies of the British State and their many thousands of employees.
Do not act violently; but do not accept the fraud which has been imposed on us either. Do not give the BritNats, who think they've won, the satisfaction of accepting that. Tell the world that the maggots who feed upon the decaying corpse of the British Empire may have, by underhand means, gained a little more time before the final dissolution of their State; but that's all they have gained.
They have not won. The fight continues, and we will win.
So far, all this is just my personal view. But I'm confident many others will sympathise with what I'm putting forward. For example, there's a delegate conference of the Radical Independence Campaign a week on Saturday. I would be very surprised if this view is not discussed.
I can't even...
Amazing.
You realise we'll have to listen to this for decades?
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