Scottish Referendum / Independence - Vol 6
Discussion
xjsdriver said:
You mean the majority of voters over 65, who were constantly misinformed/ lied to by the BBC and the printed press. The majority of people in this demographic do not have the access to alternative media like the younger generations do. In 15 to 20 years those who hold the union dear will be far fewer in number. It was fear over their pensions which drove most elderly people to vote no. The only thing Westminster has been able to do is terrify vulnerable pensioners.....and that makes you proud to be British? If that makes you proud to be British.....you're a shower of white.
Of course that is complete bollucks.Let's start from the basic principle that it's been voted for by 'the majority of voters over 65', that's made up stuff.
The only thing you or anyone else knows is that the vote went No and not Yes. You don't know who voted what, nobody knows - it is not information that is recorded.
xjsdriver said:
RYH64E said:
The settled will of the people of Scotland is to stick with said foreign power, so we must be doing something right.
You mean the majority of voters over 65, who were constantly misinformed/ lied to by the BBC and the printed press. The majority of people in this demographic do not have the access to alternative media like the younger generations do. In 15 to 20 years those who hold the union dear will be far fewer in number. It was fear over their pensions which drove most elderly people to vote no. The only thing Westminster has been able to do is terrify vulnerable pensioners.....and that makes you proud to be British? If that makes you proud to be British.....you're a shower of white.andymadmak said:
fluffnik said:
imagineifyeswill said:
I dont think anyone believes last nights debacle in George Square was representative off your average NO voter anymore than some of the worst YES campaign behavior was typical of the majority off YES voters.
They are stereotypically British though. 
SpeedMattersNot said:
I kept checking at the time on this topic, but what was the general opinion on here regarding the unionists activities reported in the media?
On my Facebook, all Scots I knew were objecting to the antics performed by the apparent 'no' voters who were acting in an unsavoury manor despite getting the result they wanted?
There was a poster on here, who'd enlightened us all by informing us it was just some right wing neds causing trouble (a nothing to see here moment - if you will). Imagine the uproar if it had been Saltire waving Nationalists.........causing trouble instead.On my Facebook, all Scots I knew were objecting to the antics performed by the apparent 'no' voters who were acting in an unsavoury manor despite getting the result they wanted?
xjsdriver said:
You mean a clear majority of over 65s who may have more nostalgia for the union and the royal family? The rest of us see them as parasites....and we know the union is on its last legs.
So where do you get that from? People go into a ballot, they vote, there is no measurement of who voted what.You come up with this 'clear majority', how? On what basis are you making that assumption?
Why am I wrong to suggest that you and/or the people spouting rhetoric at you are making it up?
xjsdriver said:
You mean a clear majority of over 65s who may have more nostalgia for the union and the royal family? The rest of us see them as parasites....and we know the union is on its last legs.
Surely what is indisputable is that a clear majority of eligible Scots voted no, neither their age nor their reasons for voting as they did matter. In the end the vote wasn't even close, the Scottish people have spoken and you should respect their decision.Blib said:
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hstewie said:
hstewie said:lamboman100 said:
A quick refresher.
28 of the 32 Scotland wards voted "No".
Respectfully, why do you keep mentioning this as if it means something when it wasn't that sort of election?28 of the 32 Scotland wards voted "No".
HenryJM said:
So where do you get that from? People go into a ballot, they vote, there is no measurement of who voted what.
You come up with this 'clear majority', how? On what basis are you making that assumption?
Why am I wrong to suggest that you and/or the people spouting rhetoric at you are making it up?
I'm basing my opinion on demographics reports.......printed in many newspapers and many online sources.You come up with this 'clear majority', how? On what basis are you making that assumption?
Why am I wrong to suggest that you and/or the people spouting rhetoric at you are making it up?
xjsdriver said:
The majority of the 55 don't have access to online media.....and newspapers and TV was their only source of information on the referendum..... Don't you mean you're not interested anymore? Don't presume to judge others by your own low standards.
LOL.That is something that you have made up. No one knows.
One could equally turn it around and say that those with access to social media only voted Yes because of the lies spread by wings over Scotland.
Stop moaning and get on with healing your country. The people have spoken. That you don't like the answer only strengthens my belief that the Nationalists are fundamentally anti democratic. "Getting the government we vote for" is code for "I don't like others voting for someone I don't want" and "settled will of the sovereign Scotttish people" is only relevant if they happen to agree with you.
The Scottish people have spoken. They voted to remain in the Union. It is your patriotic duty to Scotland to make sure that decision works. Anything else would make you a traitor to you fellow Scots.
After the Quebec referendum, investment fell. Even the Bank of Montreal left. That is why you must drop this nonsense now and get on with repairing the rifts.
xjsdriver said:
I'm basing my opinion on demographics reports.......printed in many newspapers and many online sources.
Are you suggesting that older people shouldn't have a vote? Or that the reason a person votes as they do somehow detracts from the legitimacy of that vote? You have some strange ideas about democracy. Or maybe it's just sour grapes...xjsdriver said:
HenryJM said:
So where do you get that from? People go into a ballot, they vote, there is no measurement of who voted what.
You come up with this 'clear majority', how? On what basis are you making that assumption?
Why am I wrong to suggest that you and/or the people spouting rhetoric at you are making it up?
I'm basing my opinion on demographics reports.......printed in many newspapers and many online sources.You come up with this 'clear majority', how? On what basis are you making that assumption?
Why am I wrong to suggest that you and/or the people spouting rhetoric at you are making it up?
Their report involved things like an age group of 16-17 years, they spoke to fourteen of them. So not even one in each area, or one in every other area - 14 of them who they managed to get on the phone.
Get up to the 18-24 and a stunning group of 84 of them were found (who incidentally had a majority voting yes).
It's meaningless nonsense, the snp and Salmond seem to have leapt on it but who with any sense is drawing any opinions from it? The opinion from the whole of the under 25's defined by getting less than a hundred of them to talk to them on the phone and getting out pretty much 50-50 on what they think.
And on that the SNP and Salmond think they can draw conclusions on the whole of the country.
Dear God it's pathetic.
AstonZagato said:
xjsdriver said:
I'm basing my opinion on demographics reports.......printed in many newspapers and many online sources.
That are based on tiny sample sizes. And rely on the respondents telling the truth. How people voted in the privacy of the polling booth in unknown.
OpulentBob said:
AstonZagato said:
The Scottish people have spoken. They voted to remain in the Union. It is your patriotic duty to Scotland to make sure that decision works. Anything else would make you a traitor to you fellow Scots.
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