Scottish Referendum / Independence - Vol 6
Discussion
Does anyone else think that part of the reason salmond resigned is because if he stayed all the buisness leaders university heads and people he harassed during the campaign might have come out of the woodwork with sharp knives. I am quite sure he did alot of fairly unsavoury work in the back ground far and away above what the UK government got up to!!! And also he sort of had to go as he backed himself into a corner when he said CDM should resign if it's a yes vote
andyxs said:
Does anyone else think that part of the reason salmond resigned is because if he stayed all the buisness leaders university heads and people he harassed during the campaign might have come out of the woodwork with sharp knives. I am quite sure he did alot of fairly unsavoury work in the back ground far and away above what the UK government got up to!!! And also he sort of had to go as he backed himself into a corner when he said CDM should resign if it's a yes vote
He's a party leader who failed to deliver his main promise, and there's a party conference on the horizon. He can jump or be pushed.Munter said:
Some wonderful quotes in that lot.marshalla said:
He's a party leader who failed to deliver his main promise, and there's a party conference on the horizon. He can jump or be pushed.
At least he jumped of his own accord.....many wouldn't. Can you see CMD doing the jumping of his own accord if the result went the other way? In fact I think Dave would've had to have had the "fullest support" of his party colleagues before "resigning"/being sacked...blindswelledrat said:
The problem with democracy in the UK (and it applies to England just as much as Scotland)is quite simply that there are too many thick people. People to whom 'facts' are tabloid headlines and to whom any attempt at genuine education on facts is dismissed instantly as propaganda/bullying/lies. A minority of these people are fully aware that they are thick and don't try and influence the world at large but unfortunately far too many of them mistakenly believe that they are intelligent and that the world and economy is black and white. That all our problems can be fixed by taxing the rich or making minimum wage £13. Stop immigration and we will all be rich. Keep our oil in Scotland and we will all be rich. etc
Its tiring and the more thick people get angry the more I feel like we could do with a dictatorship (although I don't actually- I'm not thick)
Anyway, just a rant and a disclaimer that this does not apply to all YES voters by any means. There are plenty that voted YES after considering the facts and the omissions and formed a genuine fact-based view of what they wanted. Fair play to them. I am jus talking about the thick ones who form life changing opinions on fresh air and tabloids.
This is completely true. I am relieved that I am not alone in thinking it. Its tiring and the more thick people get angry the more I feel like we could do with a dictatorship (although I don't actually- I'm not thick)
Anyway, just a rant and a disclaimer that this does not apply to all YES voters by any means. There are plenty that voted YES after considering the facts and the omissions and formed a genuine fact-based view of what they wanted. Fair play to them. I am jus talking about the thick ones who form life changing opinions on fresh air and tabloids.
blindswelledrat said:
The problem with democracy in the UK (and it applies to England just as much as Scotland)is quite simply that there are too many thick people. People to whom 'facts' are tabloid headlines and to whom any attempt at genuine education on facts is dismissed instantly as propaganda/bullying/lies. A minority of these people are fully aware that they are thick and don't try and influence the world at large but unfortunately far too many of them mistakenly believe that they are intelligent and that the world and economy is black and white. That all our problems can be fixed by taxing the rich or making minimum wage £13. Stop immigration and we will all be rich. Keep our oil in Scotland and we will all be rich. etc
Its tiring and the more thick people get angry the more I feel like we could do with a dictatorship (although I don't actually- I'm not thick)
Anyway, just a rant and a disclaimer that this does not apply to all YES voters by any means. There are plenty that voted YES after considering the facts and the omissions and formed a genuine fact-based view of what they wanted. Fair play to them. I am jus talking about the thick ones who form life changing opinions on fresh air and tabloids.
So we should try meritocracy then? Its tiring and the more thick people get angry the more I feel like we could do with a dictatorship (although I don't actually- I'm not thick)
Anyway, just a rant and a disclaimer that this does not apply to all YES voters by any means. There are plenty that voted YES after considering the facts and the omissions and formed a genuine fact-based view of what they wanted. Fair play to them. I am jus talking about the thick ones who form life changing opinions on fresh air and tabloids.
O let us not, like snarling curs,
In wrangling be divided,
Till, slap! come in an unco loun,
And wi' a rung decide it!
Be Britain still to Britain true,
Amang ourselves united;
For never but by British hands
Maun British wrangs be righted!
No! never but by British hands
Shall British wrangs be righted!
Robert Burns back in 1745, Just as apt today IMO
In wrangling be divided,
Till, slap! come in an unco loun,
And wi' a rung decide it!
Be Britain still to Britain true,
Amang ourselves united;
For never but by British hands
Maun British wrangs be righted!
No! never but by British hands
Shall British wrangs be righted!
Robert Burns back in 1745, Just as apt today IMO
It doesn't really do the 'yes' camp any good to be clutching at such straws regarding the 'fairness' of the results. Though the vast majority accept the result.
It seems like an emotional reaction to the rejection of a near religious campaign - a complete inability to accept that the majority don't have the blind faith that the few have.
Disappointing in some ways, though as I say it's a small minority.
It seems like an emotional reaction to the rejection of a near religious campaign - a complete inability to accept that the majority don't have the blind faith that the few have.
Disappointing in some ways, though as I say it's a small minority.
Welshbeef said:
Can we close the thread yet? Result decided game over.
Good suggestion. Undemocratic
s that can't accept the result of a referendum of this magnitude are selfish and offensive s, and they always will be. No amount of debate here is going to change that or their very narrow minded, selfish and biggoted views. It seems there's barely a braincell to share between the lot of them. Then again, that's not a problem that the rest of us need to be unduly concerned about any more, they can stew in their own piss and bile over this one because there is f
k all they can do about it.Ridgemont said:
56 v 46... game over
This was on page 154 on my PCWe're now on page 219
The media has moved on
Will PH move on too, or is this going to be like the UKIP and climate change threads?
Edited to add - being typed whist welshbeef and wombat were posting much the same sentiments
rs1952 said:
This was on page 154 on my PC
We're now on page 219
The media has moved on
Will PH move on too, or is this going to be like the UKIP and climate change threads?
Edited to add - being typed whist welshbeef and wombat were posting much the same sentiments
I think you are missing the point that about a third of Scotland are currently refusing to move on despite democracyWe're now on page 219
The media has moved on
Will PH move on too, or is this going to be like the UKIP and climate change threads?
Edited to add - being typed whist welshbeef and wombat were posting much the same sentiments
blindswelledrat said:
rs1952 said:
This was on page 154 on my PC
We're now on page 219
The media has moved on
Will PH move on too, or is this going to be like the UKIP and climate change threads?
Edited to add - being typed whist welshbeef and wombat were posting much the same sentiments
I think you are missing the point that about a third of Scotland are currently refusing to move on despite democracyWe're now on page 219
The media has moved on
Will PH move on too, or is this going to be like the UKIP and climate change threads?
Edited to add - being typed whist welshbeef and wombat were posting much the same sentiments
rs1952 said:
So incessant bleating on about it on PH is going to change anything?
No doubt your 3000 bleating posts on pistonheads have changed the world. For the rest of us typing mortals it's just a place to let off a bit of steam and set the world to rights.By any chance are you a bitter scotch pensioner?
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