Scottish Referendum / Independence - Vol 6
Discussion
Strocky said:
Revenue Scotland will be up and running by 2015
Look at the end of the day, paying for an independent Scotland with the policies offered isn't going to be easy, and something might have to give (either raised taxes or not implementing all the progressive policies)
Scotland's GDP is 99% of the UK's without oil, it's not a giant leap to think that Scotland could run a successful small country with a different foreign, social and economic policy less reliant on the banking sector
Bigger isn't always better especially when it's over-leveraged to ying yang
Neither is smaller.Look at the end of the day, paying for an independent Scotland with the policies offered isn't going to be easy, and something might have to give (either raised taxes or not implementing all the progressive policies)
Scotland's GDP is 99% of the UK's without oil, it's not a giant leap to think that Scotland could run a successful small country with a different foreign, social and economic policy less reliant on the banking sector
Bigger isn't always better especially when it's over-leveraged to ying yang
HenryJM said:
Strocky said:
Scotland's GDP is 99% of the UK's without oil
What? There's also the small problem of public spending being around 115-120% of taxation when oil revenue was much higher.
So much stuff that the SNP/yes campaign didn't address because, is it sinking in yet Strocky, the top decision makers didn't want to leave the UK.
Edinburger said:
Source?
Oh I'm sorry, are you not habitual of ONS reports?Office for National Statistics
HenryJM said:
Edinburger said:
Source?
Oh I'm sorry, are you not habitual of ONS reports?Office for National Statistics
Sources are stated as ONS, Eurostate and HM Treasury but do you know how the underlying data is exctracted and compiled?
For instance, is labour productivity the location of the employer or the employee or the job done? And employment rates?
Edinburger said:
Not sure the smart arse response was justified, but to answer your question no - I'm not a habitual user of those reports.
Sources are stated as ONS, Eurostate and HM Treasury but do you know how the underlying data is exctracted and compiled?
For instance, is labour productivity the location of the employer or the employee or the job done? And employment rates?
in this world there are 'Lies, damned lies, and statistics' At least the ONS is more balanced than many but unless you can find one that supports your views you can often look elsewhere until you find one that has accuracy, or lack of it, and approach to say what you want to say.Sources are stated as ONS, Eurostate and HM Treasury but do you know how the underlying data is exctracted and compiled?
For instance, is labour productivity the location of the employer or the employee or the job done? And employment rates?
simoid said:
Edinburger said:
...is labour productivity the location of the employer or the employee or the job done? And employment rates?
Probably whatever makes Scotland look least productive, just like all the other English statistics 
HenryJM said:
Edinburger said:
Not sure the smart arse response was justified, but to answer your question no - I'm not a habitual user of those reports.
Sources are stated as ONS, Eurostate and HM Treasury but do you know how the underlying data is exctracted and compiled?
For instance, is labour productivity the location of the employer or the employee or the job done? And employment rates?
in this world there are 'Lies, damned lies, and statistics' At least the ONS is more balanced than many but unless you can find one that supports your views you can often look elsewhere until you find one that has accuracy, or lack of it, and approach to say what you want to say.Sources are stated as ONS, Eurostate and HM Treasury but do you know how the underlying data is exctracted and compiled?
For instance, is labour productivity the location of the employer or the employee or the job done? And employment rates?
simoid said:
Edinburger said:
...is labour productivity the location of the employer or the employee or the job done? And employment rates?
Probably whatever makes Scotland look least productive, just like all the other English statistics Edinburger said:
Aah, I see. So you don't know. It was a sensible question I asked: I live in London and am employed by a London-based company so where is my work counted?
Now if you'd said you live in Edinburgh and work for a London based company I might have said there was space for confusion. As you didn't, you'll have to explain to me why it would be anything other than London.paulrockliffe said:
simoid said:
Edinburger said:
...is labour productivity the location of the employer or the employee or the job done? And employment rates?
Probably whatever makes Scotland look least productive, just like all the other English statistics mcdjl said:
Edinburger said:
Aah, I see. So you don't know. It was a sensible question I asked: I live in London and am employed by a London-based company so where is my work counted?
Now if you'd said you live in Edinburgh and work for a London based company I might have said there was space for confusion. As you didn't, you'll have to explain to me why it would be anything other than London.Edinburger said:
Aah, I see. So you don't know. It was a sensible question I asked: I live in London and am employed by a London-based company so where is my work counted?
et alYes, it's part of what was barmy in the whole independence thing, splitting incomes and revenues between different parts of the UK with any accuracy. My company is in the UK, we service one of our customers in all different bits of the UK but invoice Glasgow. What does that mean anyway, not least that the organisation is UK registered? It's just crazy anyone telling me what would have happened when Scotland went independent, all of the information was just barking.
HenryJM said:
Edinburger said:
Aah, I see. So you don't know. It was a sensible question I asked: I live in London and am employed by a London-based company so where is my work counted?
et alYes, it's part of what was barmy in the whole independence thing, splitting incomes and revenues between different parts of the UK with any accuracy. My company is in the UK, we service one of our customers in all different bits of the UK but invoice Glasgow. What does that mean anyway, not least that the organisation is UK registered? It's just crazy anyone telling me what would have happened when Scotland went independent, all of the information was just barking.
Edinburger said:
McWigglebum4th said:
Edinburger said:
Yep, I agree with you there. Although it's almost unbeleivable that there's no robust data in this day and age.
Why should there beIt only interests the face painters
t somewhere else isOr in the case of the nationalists how they are being oppressed
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