Scottish Referendum / Independence - Vol 6
Discussion
Dundee Courier said:
Sir, – I am increasingly concerned about the behaviour and attitude of First Minister, Nicola Sturgeon. She would appear to have forgotten, or chosen to ignore, the result of the referendum, when the Scottish people voted decisively to say “no” to independence.
Her duty, as First Minister, is to honour and respect that decision, and while she is entitled to seek more, devolved powers for the Scottish Parliament, she is not entitled to continue to blatantly challenge the referendum decision and make demands of Westminster relative to matters which the people of Scotland agreed, by their vote, should remain devolved.
Ms Sturgeon’s repeated visits south to “lecture” the English, Welsh and Northern Irish as to how they should behave; how they should conduct their affairs; and make strident “demands” as to what she will require to support continuing government in Westminster. is very concerning.
Her behaviour and attitude that the SNP will hold the “balance of power” after the next election, and will only support further legislation if the rest of the United Kingdom meets the SNP’s “requirements” displays a breathtaking arrogance and lack of judgement.
I am as fervent a Scot as any but Nicola Sturgeon is doing us great damage and will alienate our English, Welsh and Northern Irish friends very quickly if she continues with this strident attitude.
Common sense surely tells us that we, the Scottish people, are much better and more secure if we remain as one United Kingdom.
Do we — yet again — want the continuing spectre of no longer being a part of the United Kingdom; no longer entitled to a British passport; having to apply to become a member of the European Union; risking losing our Scottish naval shipbuilding contracts to England; losing thousands of jobs at Faslane and the whole Helensburgh area and possibly Leuchars as a major military base; thinking we can realistically “go it alone” in the North Sea with a collapsed oil price?
It is time it was made clear to our First Minister that her ambitions have no place in Scottish politics. The referendum vote showed that.
Hamish Carlton.
Gowrie Cottage,
Dunkeld.
Obviously a Tory.Her duty, as First Minister, is to honour and respect that decision, and while she is entitled to seek more, devolved powers for the Scottish Parliament, she is not entitled to continue to blatantly challenge the referendum decision and make demands of Westminster relative to matters which the people of Scotland agreed, by their vote, should remain devolved.
Ms Sturgeon’s repeated visits south to “lecture” the English, Welsh and Northern Irish as to how they should behave; how they should conduct their affairs; and make strident “demands” as to what she will require to support continuing government in Westminster. is very concerning.
Her behaviour and attitude that the SNP will hold the “balance of power” after the next election, and will only support further legislation if the rest of the United Kingdom meets the SNP’s “requirements” displays a breathtaking arrogance and lack of judgement.
I am as fervent a Scot as any but Nicola Sturgeon is doing us great damage and will alienate our English, Welsh and Northern Irish friends very quickly if she continues with this strident attitude.
Common sense surely tells us that we, the Scottish people, are much better and more secure if we remain as one United Kingdom.
Do we — yet again — want the continuing spectre of no longer being a part of the United Kingdom; no longer entitled to a British passport; having to apply to become a member of the European Union; risking losing our Scottish naval shipbuilding contracts to England; losing thousands of jobs at Faslane and the whole Helensburgh area and possibly Leuchars as a major military base; thinking we can realistically “go it alone” in the North Sea with a collapsed oil price?
It is time it was made clear to our First Minister that her ambitions have no place in Scottish politics. The referendum vote showed that.
Hamish Carlton.
Gowrie Cottage,
Dunkeld.
Welshbeef said:
So sturgeon has given a speech today and the hard red lines for a coalition with labour are
No trident
No austerity and vast increase in spend
Much more powers to Scotland
Um kind of means it will not happen.
2 possibilitiesNo trident
No austerity and vast increase in spend
Much more powers to Scotland
Um kind of means it will not happen.
1 they are delusional idiots who believe they will get everything they wish for
2 They want to make labour unelectable so they can scream tory oppression
It is 1 isn't it
Strocky said:
simoid said:
Perhaps not racist as we are the same race. What might the equivalent for nations be..?
Nationalist?
I always recall Salmond challenging the UKPM to "come up here and argue against Scotland" or words to that effect. As if you must either be on Scotland's side or the UK side. Disgusting.
If words to that effect = lies, then yes I agree Nationalist?
I always recall Salmond challenging the UKPM to "come up here and argue against Scotland" or words to that effect. As if you must either be on Scotland's side or the UK side. Disgusting.
Taken from "Alex Salmond wants David Cameron to make 'anti-Scottish' case in TV debate"
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/scotland/10...
Lies?
Excellent article in the Staggers - http://www.theguardian.com/uk/2000/apr/14/marktran...
"It’s a disagreeable trait of nationalist parties everywhere to seek to conflate themselves and the country they claim to speak for. Scotland is bigger than the SNP. When Alex Salmond says it’s ‘disrespectful’ to rule out any UK government being formed off the back of SNP votes, he’s at it too. It’s not disrespectful towards Scots. It is, however, perfectly reasonably, antagonistic to the SNP and the principle which motivates it"
"It’s a disagreeable trait of nationalist parties everywhere to seek to conflate themselves and the country they claim to speak for. Scotland is bigger than the SNP. When Alex Salmond says it’s ‘disrespectful’ to rule out any UK government being formed off the back of SNP votes, he’s at it too. It’s not disrespectful towards Scots. It is, however, perfectly reasonably, antagonistic to the SNP and the principle which motivates it"
simoid said:
Strocky said:
simoid said:
Perhaps not racist as we are the same race. What might the equivalent for nations be..?
Nationalist?
I always recall Salmond challenging the UKPM to "come up here and argue against Scotland" or words to that effect. As if you must either be on Scotland's side or the UK side. Disgusting.
If words to that effect = lies, then yes I agree Nationalist?
I always recall Salmond challenging the UKPM to "come up here and argue against Scotland" or words to that effect. As if you must either be on Scotland's side or the UK side. Disgusting.
Taken from "Alex Salmond wants David Cameron to make 'anti-Scottish' case in TV debate"
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/scotland/10...
Lies?
"Salmond said this would give the Prime Minister the opportunity to “articulate a case against Scotland”, while he would make the opposing argument for independence.
The Scottish Liberal Democrats said the intervention had “given the game away” because it showed that Mr Salmond is prepared to label anyone anti-Scottish just because they do not agree with separation.
Alistair Carmichael MP, the party’s deputy leader, attacked the First Minister’s “cheap and narrow” remark and accused him of overseeing a “nationalist witch-hunt.”
“This is the negative campaign from the nationalists which says that anyone who questions their plans is fundamentally against Scotland,” the Orkney and Shetland MP said."
The SNP does not speak for Scotland.
Vote for SNP = vote for breaking up the UK. Don't vpte SNP if you want to keep the UK.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/money/news/article-3016...
The SNP and Labour luvvies' are up to some fine tricks
The SNP and Labour luvvies' are up to some fine tricks
Nationalists
Answer this
You believe that scotland should keep all the oil money and whiskey income, as scotland earned this money and it is rightfully scotlands and it should not be spent in england to support those less fortunate to ourselves
You also believe that I who earn good money in the oil industry should give far more of my income to the state as it despite the fact i earned my income and it isn't rightfully mine, it should be used to support those less fortunate then myself
Could you please please please please explain what the difference is
Answer this
You believe that scotland should keep all the oil money and whiskey income, as scotland earned this money and it is rightfully scotlands and it should not be spent in england to support those less fortunate to ourselves
You also believe that I who earn good money in the oil industry should give far more of my income to the state as it despite the fact i earned my income and it isn't rightfully mine, it should be used to support those less fortunate then myself
Could you please please please please explain what the difference is
agree 100%
McWigglebum4th said:
Nationalists
Answer this
You believe that scotland should keep all the oil money and whiskey income, as scotland earned this money and it is rightfully scotlands and it should not be spent in england to support those less fortunate to ourselves
You also believe that I who earn good money in the oil industry should give far more of my income to the state as it despite the fact i earned my income and it isn't rightfully mine, it should be used to support those less fortunate then myself
Could you please please please please explain what the difference is
Answer this
You believe that scotland should keep all the oil money and whiskey income, as scotland earned this money and it is rightfully scotlands and it should not be spent in england to support those less fortunate to ourselves
You also believe that I who earn good money in the oil industry should give far more of my income to the state as it despite the fact i earned my income and it isn't rightfully mine, it should be used to support those less fortunate then myself
Could you please please please please explain what the difference is
finnie said:
agree 100%
BOOMMcWigglebum4th said:
Nationalists
Answer this
You believe that scotland should keep all the oil money and whiskey income, as scotland earned this money and it is rightfully scotlands and it should not be spent in england to support those less fortunate to ourselves
You also believe that I who earn good money in the oil industry should give far more of my income to the state as it despite the fact i earned my income and it isn't rightfully mine, it should be used to support those less fortunate then myself
Could you please please please please explain what the difference is
Answer this
You believe that scotland should keep all the oil money and whiskey income, as scotland earned this money and it is rightfully scotlands and it should not be spent in england to support those less fortunate to ourselves
You also believe that I who earn good money in the oil industry should give far more of my income to the state as it despite the fact i earned my income and it isn't rightfully mine, it should be used to support those less fortunate then myself
Could you please please please please explain what the difference is
McWigglebum4th said:
arp1 said:
Ah well at least it's not an expenses scandal or child molesting ring....
if i voted NO does that mean i supported child molesting?finnie said:
agree 100%
Evil bedroom tax and pasty vat robbing vile Tories isn't it?McWigglebum4th said:
Nationalists
Answer this
You believe that scotland should keep all the oil money and whiskey income, as scotland earned this money and it is rightfully scotlands and it should not be spent in england to support those less fortunate to ourselves
You also believe that I who earn good money in the oil industry should give far more of my income to the state as it despite the fact i earned my income and it isn't rightfully mine, it should be used to support those less fortunate then myself
Could you please please please please explain what the difference is
Answer this
You believe that scotland should keep all the oil money and whiskey income, as scotland earned this money and it is rightfully scotlands and it should not be spent in england to support those less fortunate to ourselves
You also believe that I who earn good money in the oil industry should give far more of my income to the state as it despite the fact i earned my income and it isn't rightfully mine, it should be used to support those less fortunate then myself
Could you please please please please explain what the difference is
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