Scottish Referendum / Independence - Vol 6

[McWigglebum4th]

Garvin said:

arp1 said:

Businesses that said they would invest and stay in scotland post no vote have been found out to be lies

This beggars belief! If the Nats and SNP had accepted the referendum result then you may well have seen the required investment. With the ongoing unsettled position and lack of confidence generated by the SNP then the result is as expected.

arp1

QUESTION 1

Seeing we have businesses abandoning scotland after a NO vote due to the neverendum and your refusal to accept the settled will of the scottish people

Why would they of stayed had you for for FRFREEEEEEeeeeeddddooommmmmmmm1!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



QUESTION 2


How does businesses abandoning Scotland hurt support for independence


Question 3

Will you answer my earlier question

[malks222]

sorry i've not fully kept up with this thread following the referendum, but do SNP/Yes voters agree that had we voted yes and charged on with the SNP plans that we'd be sitting with the begging bowl out following the crash in oil revenue, probably close to bankruptcy?? and that the SNP's financial plan for an independant scotland was far too risky? or how do they feel that independence would have only taken 18 months, but at the recent debate they said full financial autonomy would have taken years??

[Wombat3]

malks222 said:

sorry i've not fully kept up with this thread following the referendum, but do SNP/Yes voters agree that had we voted yes and charged on with the SNP plans that we'd be sitting with the begging bowl out following the crash in oil revenue, probably close to bankruptcy?? and that the SNP's financial plan for an independant scotland was far too risky? or how do they feel that independence would have only taken 18 months, but at the recent debate they said full financial autonomy would have taken years??

Shhhhh !

Truth not allowed in SNP-land

[Funk]

Wombat3 said:

malks222 said:

sorry i've not fully kept up with this thread following the referendum, but do SNP/Yes voters agree that had we voted yes and charged on with the SNP plans that we'd be sitting with the begging bowl out following the crash in oil revenue, probably close to bankruptcy?? and that the SNP's financial plan for an independant scotland was far too risky? or how do they feel that independence would have only taken 18 months, but at the recent debate they said full financial autonomy would have taken years??

Shhhhh !

Truth not allowed in SNP-land

[MintyScot]

malks222 said:

sorry i've not fully kept up with this thread following the referendum, but do SNP/Yes voters agree that had we voted yes and charged on with the SNP plans that we'd be sitting with the begging bowl out following the crash in oil revenue, probably close to bankruptcy?? and that the SNP's financial plan for an independant scotland was far too risky? or how do they feel that independence would have only taken 18 months, but at the recent debate they said full financial autonomy would have taken years??

I believe this type of question/observation is met with "Scaremongering!".

Scotland is turning into a one party political system with no responsibility or accountability required. The fact that this one party is being treated like a religion doesn't help either.

The above is terrible news for Scotland. Absolutely NOTHING good can come from this.

Can you imagine an SNP controlled independent Scotland? What a horrible thought. Average speed cameras covering the whole of Scotland no doubt. Not that anyone would know as we would have state controlled media.

[McWigglebum4th]

I see there is one tory billboard in a field on my way to work


How long before it is vandalised?

[Strocky]

malks222 said:

sorry i've not fully kept up with this thread following the referendum, but do SNP/Yes voters agree that had we voted yes and charged on with the SNP plans that we'd be sitting with the begging bowl out following the crash in oil revenue, probably close to bankruptcy?? and that the SNP's financial plan for an independant scotland was far too risky? or how do they feel that independence would have only taken 18 months, but at the recent debate they said full financial autonomy would have taken years??

At the risk of repeating myself, March 2016 was the date of SI (not Jan 2015) the price of oil has risen 38% since the low of January, oil accounts for 10% of Scotland's GDP and at the end of the day an iS would have the same options as rUK if it had a potential hole in its budget, borrow, cut expenditure or raise taxes

The Independence timeframe would have been ruled by the negotiations between Westminster & iS, not when Salmond declared before lunch

Maybe the reason why FFR would take years might be something to do with these sort of games being played by the Unionist parties

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2015/apr/19/co...

[Strocky]

MintyScot said:

malks222 said:

sorry i've not fully kept up with this thread following the referendum, but do SNP/Yes voters agree that had we voted yes and charged on with the SNP plans that we'd be sitting with the begging bowl out following the crash in oil revenue, probably close to bankruptcy?? and that the SNP's financial plan for an independant scotland was far too risky? or how do they feel that independence would have only taken 18 months, but at the recent debate they said full financial autonomy would have taken years??

I believe this type of question/observation is met with "Scaremongering!".

Scotland is turning into a one party political system with no responsibility or accountability required. The fact that this one party is being treated like a religion doesn't help either.

The above is terrible news for Scotland. Absolutely NOTHING good can come from this.

Can you imagine an SNP controlled independent Scotland? What a horrible thought. Average speed cameras covering the whole of Scotland no doubt. Not that anyone would know as we would have state controlled media.

Didn't realise the Holyrood Elections have been cancelled next year

[McWigglebum4th]

Strocky said:

Didn't realise the Holyrood Elections have been cancelled next year

We could only but hope that holyrood is canceled once we have a tory/UKIP government

[McWigglebum4th]

Strocky said:

At the risk of repeating myself, March 2016 was the date of SI (not Jan 2015) the price of oil has risen 38% since the low of January, oil accounts for 10% of Scotland's GDP and at the end of the day an iS would have the same options as rUK if it had a potential hole in its budget, borrow, cut expenditure or raise taxes

SO

What would we do?


Borrow?

Cut?

Or raise taxes

[Troubleatmill]

McWigglebum4th said:

Strocky said:

At the risk of repeating myself, March 2016 was the date of SI (not Jan 2015) the price of oil has risen 38% since the low of January, oil accounts for 10% of Scotland's GDP and at the end of the day an iS would have the same options as rUK if it had a potential hole in its budget, borrow, cut expenditure or raise taxes

SO

What would we do?


Borrow?

Cut?

Or raise taxes

You are an eejit.

You forgot the unicorns that ste gold bricks. We have lots of them.

[simoid]

McWigglebum4th said:

SO

What would we do?


Borrow?

Cut?

Or raise taxes

as well as:

D)

Create an oil fund!

[McWigglebum4th]

simoid said:

McWigglebum4th said:

SO

What would we do?


Borrow?

Cut?

Or raise taxes

as well as:

D)

Create an oil fund!

Are we doing that before or after we have doubled all benefits?

[anonymous-user]

McWigglebum4th said:

Strocky said:

At the risk of repeating myself, March 2016 was the date of SI (not Jan 2015) the price of oil has risen 38% since the low of January, oil accounts for 10% of Scotland's GDP and at the end of the day an iS would have the same options as rUK if it had a potential hole in its budget, borrow, cut expenditure or raise taxes

SO

What would we do?


Borrow?

Cut?

Or raise taxes

You'd be doing all three. And still going down the toilet........

[MissChief]

Can you imagine a situation where a prime minister runs the country, including Scotland, a place where not one single constituency was won by his party?

[barryrs]

MissChief said:

Can you imagine a situation where a prime minister runs the country, including Scotland, a place where not one single constituency was won by his party?

Ummmm, yes.

Many regions of the UK don't get the government or prime minster they voted for; why is Scotland a special case?

[Funk]

MissChief said:

Can you imagine a situation where a prime minister runs the country, including Scotland, a place where not one single constituency was won by his party?

You had the opportunity to leave and chose to stay.

[Garvin]

MissChief said:

Can you imagine a situation where a prime minister runs the country, including Scotland, a place where not one single constituency was won by his party?

Yes, it's called democracy. If you don't like it, don't vote for a minority party such as the SNP. Vote for a party that has a chance of providing a Prime Minister. Otherwise, you'll just have to 'suck it up'.

[simoid]

MissChief said:

Can you imagine a situation where a prime minister runs the country, including Scotland, a place where not one single constituency was won by his party?

Have you heard of a little country called Northern Ireland? No government MPs there at all just now.

[///ajd]

andymadmak said:

barryrs said:

arp1 said:

Businesses that said they would invest and stay in scotland post no vote have been found out to be lies

Had the "settled will" of the Scottish people been respected then investment would have been forthcoming however the neverendum has left Scotland in limbo.

arp1 this is the point you are missing. Had the Nats respected the vote then I think you would have seen business investment returning to Scotland. The reason you feel lied to on this point is PRECISELY because the Nats have never accepted the result of the Referendum and have been frantically trying to find ways to justify a new one almost as soon as the ink was dry on the last set of ballot papers. Business will NOT invest under those circumstances, whether you like it or not. You Nats are creating your own self fulfilling prophecy. You are damaging Scotland. It simply beggars belief that you turn that somehow into BT having lied to you. Please, for the love of Scotland STOP!

^^ This x1000

What is most alarming is the nats just don't see it.

Cult is the right word.

The scary thing is that Scotland could be heading on a similar path to Waco - i.e. self imposed implosion. Is it unstoppable?

Those that vote SNP thinking they are not voting for furthering damage to the union are very sadly misguided. Is it right that all those who plan to vote SNP who are on here are also rabid nationalists? Is there anyone who wants the union to remain that is actually voting SNP?