kawasaki ninja supercharged h2

kawasaki ninja supercharged h2

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ylovebuffalo

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216 posts

162 months

Thursday 11th September 2014
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This should be revealed soon....anyone know what size engine its going to be. If its effectively a supercharged zx10r its going to be a bit of a monster!

WaferThinHam

1,680 posts

130 months

Thursday 11th September 2014
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Kawasaki have been hinting at this for an age. Expect it to be a ZZR1400 replacement. I reckon a 1000cc supercharged tourer.

RumpleFugly

2,377 posts

210 months

Thursday 11th September 2014
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Judging by the sneak peeks we've had I reckon it'll be more likely sub 1000cc. Maybe 750 Supercharged?

I'm looking forward to seeing it anyhow.


SAS Tom

3,403 posts

174 months

Thursday 11th September 2014
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Why do people keep saying supercharged when kawasaki themselves have released sounds with waste gate noises?

ylovebuffalo

Original Poster:

216 posts

162 months

Thursday 11th September 2014
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SAS Tom said:
Why do people keep saying supercharged when kawasaki themselves have released sounds with waste gate noises?
I assume because it could have both like the tfsi engines....

RumpleFugly

2,377 posts

210 months

Thursday 11th September 2014
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Ummmm, because it's supercharged?

"Kawasaki Heavy Industries, Ltd. also has a long history of developing technologies for turbine engines. The lifeblood of these turbines is their blades, which need to be able to cope with extreme heat and vibration while spinning at high speeds.
Know-how from years of designing turbine engine blades was instilled in the first supercharger developed by a motorcycle manufacturer. And of course, designing a motorcycle-use supercharged engine in-house means that maximum efficiency could be pursued."


RumpleFugly

2,377 posts

210 months

Thursday 11th September 2014
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Indeedy, Patent drawings also give the game away hehe


Hooli

32,278 posts

200 months

Thursday 11th September 2014
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A production supercharger? oh please!

bass gt3

10,193 posts

233 months

Friday 12th September 2014
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SAS Tom said:
Why do people keep saying supercharged when kawasaki themselves have released sounds with waste gate noises?
what does a wastegate noise sound like?

hebegb494

151 posts

118 months

Friday 12th September 2014
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Wow....competition for Turbo R1s everywhere....hope it doesn't pogo quite as absurdly...!!
( ps this is in jest - please do not go on to try to explain to me the difference between forced induction and crank driven aspiration etc.etc...)

clen666

925 posts

122 months

Friday 12th September 2014
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SAS Tom said:
Why do people keep saying supercharged when kawasaki themselves have released sounds with waste gate noises?
Looks like its using a centrifugal type supercharger, like rotrex etc.
The compressor side is similar to a turbo, obviously driven differently.

The sound is most likely compressor surge, when it air bounces back off the compressor wheel when the throttle is closed.

....or something like that.

scarble

5,277 posts

157 months

Friday 12th September 2014
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hebegb494 said:
Wow....competition for Turbo R1s everywhere....hope it doesn't pogo quite as absurdly...!!
( ps this is in jest - please do not go on to try to explain to me the difference between forced induction and crank driven aspiration etc.etc...)
Technically both are forced induction tongue out

Like Clen says, superchargers can pressurise the manifold and surge/need to be blown off.
Centrifugal type superchargers are meant to work more in the top end and be more linear, rather than a low down glut of torque.

s3fella

10,524 posts

187 months

Friday 12th September 2014
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I had a go on a Kawasaki jet ski that had a 'turbo' on it the guy said and it was insane. 320hp he reckons and I cauldron beleive it.

ylovebuffalo

Original Poster:

216 posts

162 months

Friday 12th September 2014
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s3fella said:
I had a go on a Kawasaki jet ski that had a 'turbo' on it the guy said and it was insane. 320hp he reckons and I cauldron beleive it.
I know they do a 300BHP S/C IL4 engine in thier jet skis biggrin.....

http://www.kawasaki.com/Products/Product-Specifica...

SAS Tom

3,403 posts

174 months

Friday 12th September 2014
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Well that's me told!

What are the noises on the video things that were linked to on here last week then?

Hooli

32,278 posts

200 months

Friday 12th September 2014
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s3fella said:
I had a go on a Kawasaki jet ski that had a 'turbo' on it the guy said and it was insane. 320hp he reckons and I cauldron beleive it.
You just threw that in the pot & stirred? wink

scarble

5,277 posts

157 months

Friday 12th September 2014
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SAS Tom said:
Well that's me told!
What are the noises on the video things that were linked to on here last week then?
scarble said:
Like Clen says, superchargers can pressurise the manifold and surge/need to be blown off.
What's all this about cauldrons? Is this another BB meme that's over my head? Whenever I drop in here I can't make head nor tail of what's going on, you lot are potty.

ylovebuffalo

Original Poster:

216 posts

162 months

Tuesday 16th September 2014
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http://www.ninja-h2.com/video.html

latest teaser relased this morning...maybe it will be a 750? Roll on 30th....I hope it isn't going to be a huge anti-climax

gareth_r

5,725 posts

237 months

Tuesday 16th September 2014
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So what's it for? Has there been any explanation?

If the intention is to make a small capacity engine behave like a large capacity engine, wouldn't they use a positive displacement supercharger, rather than a centrifugal type? Big bikes are already physically small and light, and very powerful. So why forced induction?

ylovebuffalo

Original Poster:

216 posts

162 months

Tuesday 16th September 2014
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maybe litre power in a 750 sized bike? Bit like back in the day when the first fireblade gave 900 power in 600 size bike? (obviously the difference is not as big these days)